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Hmmm just noticed that your location says that S&W is just 45 min away. We must be the same neck of the woods!
ATTN. 10XX Auto Owners, Production Has Started - .40 S&W & .357 SIG Barrels
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Hmmm just noticed that your location says that S&W is just 45 min away. We must be the same neck of the woods!
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Well this is what I have been looking for for a long time and Bad_Man_One looks like a great canidate to make this project work. We can only hope that BM1 can produce barrels of even better tollerances and qualities given his expertise and back round. I hope and pray for his success in this endevor and will buy some barrels from him.
I for one have the Bar-Sto Match Grade 40S&W and 9x25 Dillon 5.00" conversion barrels for my S&W1006. From a handloader & target shooting standpoint it only makes since to get the 40S&W conversion barrel for the 10xx series. Cheaper and more readily avalible ammo and plenty brass around to play with for handloading...
I had to hand fit both of these to my slide and frame to get the fit proper. But I must say the fit was ever so close from Bar-Sto for the 40S&W...it only needed a light stoning on the flat surface where the barrel rides up over the slide lock pin. Barrel hood width and length were precise on the 40S&W barrel.
Now about the 9x25 Dillon, this was more of a challenge, first off the width of the barrel hood required some thinning to fit the slide notch. The end of the barrel hood required trimming for the barrel to achieve proper lock up without excess clearance. Then as with the 40 barrel the underside of the barrel need to be dressed (filed & then polished with a stone and oil) where it rides over the slide stop pin. Bar-Sto had messed up the tiny notch where the recoil rod latches and this needed to be reworked and the chamber needed to be final reamed after the barrel was fitted to the slide. I sent the barrel to Mr. Van at The Gunworks, 1329 1st St, Sandusky, OH and he performed the reaming and rework of the recoil rod notch for me. He did a great job getting my barrel setup...many Thanks Van!
Both of these barrels have worked/functioned very well and are accurate. The cartridges do feed properly from the stock S&W 10mm magazines. However the 9x25Dillon's performance suffers slightly from the 5.00" barreland would better from a longer 6.00" barrel. I will say that the 9x25 Dillon cartridge requires some attention to details while handloading for it...the most critical is the sizing for proper head spacing which should be 0.002" +/- and maintaining tight bullet fit to eliminate setback issues...
In my conversation with BM1 last night it would be nice to get 6.00" barrel into the slide, but he is going to have to check on clearance issues to verify whether the longer barrel will slide thru the barrel bushing as that will be the limiting factor...machining or threading of the extended portion of the barrel might allow for some clearance to achieve this idea. However this will have to be up to him to consider this undertaking. The 10mm and especially the 9x25 Dillon would benifit form the extra barrel length greatly.
I want to add the 357Sig barrel to my collection just because of the potential and vesitility, I love the concept of adding it to the finest S&W 10mm pistols made...1006/1026/1046 and the 1066/1076/1086.
Therefore for those of you who have ever wished or considered the conversion barrel for your 10xx series pistol, stay tuned to this project. Like BM1 has stated this maybe the only chance we have for this to happen.
I for one have the Bar-Sto Match Grade 40S&W and 9x25 Dillon 5.00" conversion barrels for my S&W1006. From a handloader & target shooting standpoint it only makes since to get the 40S&W conversion barrel for the 10xx series. Cheaper and more readily avalible ammo and plenty brass around to play with for handloading...
I had to hand fit both of these to my slide and frame to get the fit proper. But I must say the fit was ever so close from Bar-Sto for the 40S&W...it only needed a light stoning on the flat surface where the barrel rides up over the slide lock pin. Barrel hood width and length were precise on the 40S&W barrel.
Now about the 9x25 Dillon, this was more of a challenge, first off the width of the barrel hood required some thinning to fit the slide notch. The end of the barrel hood required trimming for the barrel to achieve proper lock up without excess clearance. Then as with the 40 barrel the underside of the barrel need to be dressed (filed & then polished with a stone and oil) where it rides over the slide stop pin. Bar-Sto had messed up the tiny notch where the recoil rod latches and this needed to be reworked and the chamber needed to be final reamed after the barrel was fitted to the slide. I sent the barrel to Mr. Van at The Gunworks, 1329 1st St, Sandusky, OH and he performed the reaming and rework of the recoil rod notch for me. He did a great job getting my barrel setup...many Thanks Van!
Both of these barrels have worked/functioned very well and are accurate. The cartridges do feed properly from the stock S&W 10mm magazines. However the 9x25Dillon's performance suffers slightly from the 5.00" barreland would better from a longer 6.00" barrel. I will say that the 9x25 Dillon cartridge requires some attention to details while handloading for it...the most critical is the sizing for proper head spacing which should be 0.002" +/- and maintaining tight bullet fit to eliminate setback issues...
In my conversation with BM1 last night it would be nice to get 6.00" barrel into the slide, but he is going to have to check on clearance issues to verify whether the longer barrel will slide thru the barrel bushing as that will be the limiting factor...machining or threading of the extended portion of the barrel might allow for some clearance to achieve this idea. However this will have to be up to him to consider this undertaking. The 10mm and especially the 9x25 Dillon would benifit form the extra barrel length greatly.
I want to add the 357Sig barrel to my collection just because of the potential and vesitility, I love the concept of adding it to the finest S&W 10mm pistols made...1006/1026/1046 and the 1066/1076/1086.
Therefore for those of you who have ever wished or considered the conversion barrel for your 10xx series pistol, stay tuned to this project. Like BM1 has stated this maybe the only chance we have for this to happen.
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Sign me up for a drop in 40 barrel for a 1066.
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bad_man_ one
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Shadow1006,
Thank you Sir for the wonderful accolades, it was my pleasure talking with you.
I promise I will do my very best to make everybody happy.
If anyone has any fitting issues with a "Drop in" barrel, I will bend over backwards to make it right.
From what I have deduced from the 7 (Seven) 10XX series that I have been reverse engineering.
I am very impressed with the tolerances that Smith & Wesson held to.
Today,
I increased the order for the 26" 9 m.m. precision barrel blanks, .357 SIG is getting more attention than I had expected.
Thank you again,
BM1
Thank you Sir for the wonderful accolades, it was my pleasure talking with you.
I promise I will do my very best to make everybody happy.
If anyone has any fitting issues with a "Drop in" barrel, I will bend over backwards to make it right.
From what I have deduced from the 7 (Seven) 10XX series that I have been reverse engineering.
I am very impressed with the tolerances that Smith & Wesson held to.
Today,
I increased the order for the 26" 9 m.m. precision barrel blanks, .357 SIG is getting more attention than I had expected.
Thank you again,
BM1
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bad_man_ one
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Hi Class III,
I am keeping a daily running total and I just want to get it right.
You posted on 12/30/2010, is that now you wish to get two 40's and one .357 SIG barrels for the 1066's?
Regards,
BM1
Shadow1006
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BM1, you may not please everyone but I'd bet most will be estatic with the final product. By the way, the part of the barrel which fits the barrel bushing is likely to be a standard that most all guns will accept without any further fitting because of those tolerances.
I would suspect that the 357 Sig conversion would do well because like the 40S&W ammunition is readily avalible at most common outlets and at reasonable pricing. Many people don't load for themselves therefore they will find that these conversion barrels will compliment their shooting budget in the long run!
Thanks again!
I would suspect that the 357 Sig conversion would do well because like the 40S&W ammunition is readily avalible at most common outlets and at reasonable pricing. Many people don't load for themselves therefore they will find that these conversion barrels will compliment their shooting budget in the long run!
Thanks again!
Glad you caught my mistake. Sign me up for one 40 cal drop in barrel and one 357 drop in barrel for my 1066.
Thanks,
Class III
snowman.45
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.40 barrel
Bad_Man_One: I'm in for a drop-in .40 caliber for a 1066. Please let me know what you need to fill the request.
Bad_Man_One: I'm in for a drop-in .40 caliber for a 1066. Please let me know what you need to fill the request.
just purchaced a 1066. I am real serious about committing to your .40 s&w conversion barrell in 5" size. drop-in hopefully. COUNT ME IN!!!
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Shadow1006
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BM1, do you have a progress report on the barrels? Have the rifled blanks been delivered? Have you gotten started yet?
Best regards!
Best regards!
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bad_man_ one
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Shadow1006,
Waiting on the barrel supplier, I'll call this week and see how he's doing.
I made a "mock-up" plug for your 1006, 6.00" 9x25 Dillon.
I'll have to reduce the O.D. a little bit, but, it looks like we're good.
Regards,
BM1
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I can't wait, Christmas come soon!!!
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Keeping BM1 busy
I'm keeping BM1 busy till the barrel stock comes in. See the other thread on extended slide stops that he modifys, I just sent him 3 to do. Being a lefty I think they are wonderful things and a standard item for my 1911s. it is nice to finaly get one for a S&W. Even when I am doing weak hand shooting I never have a problem locking back the slide by mistake, seems far fetched. I wonder how many people have really done it and how many have read about it? My left index is down on the trigger and my right thumb is at the rear where a thumb safety would be if there were one. I sent him 2 1076 and 1 6926. I could see how maybe the right thumb might have problems with an extended on a compact but I want to give it a try. I shoot the HK45 a lot and never have trouble with the ambi slide release. The other argument is "all you have to do is slingshot" it is hard with a flashlight in your other hand or if you are laying on it in a dificult situation or it is unuseable due to some reason behond your control. I have practiced one hand reloading and it isn't easy till you do it a few hundred times and even then it is easier with an extended slide stop. Boy I am chatty when I have not slept in 36 hours! LOL Just my thoughts for what little worth they are.
I'm keeping BM1 busy till the barrel stock comes in. See the other thread on extended slide stops that he modifys, I just sent him 3 to do. Being a lefty I think they are wonderful things and a standard item for my 1911s. it is nice to finaly get one for a S&W. Even when I am doing weak hand shooting I never have a problem locking back the slide by mistake, seems far fetched. I wonder how many people have really done it and how many have read about it? My left index is down on the trigger and my right thumb is at the rear where a thumb safety would be if there were one. I sent him 2 1076 and 1 6926. I could see how maybe the right thumb might have problems with an extended on a compact but I want to give it a try. I shoot the HK45 a lot and never have trouble with the ambi slide release. The other argument is "all you have to do is slingshot" it is hard with a flashlight in your other hand or if you are laying on it in a dificult situation or it is unuseable due to some reason behond your control. I have practiced one hand reloading and it isn't easy till you do it a few hundred times and even then it is easier with an extended slide stop. Boy I am chatty when I have not slept in 36 hours! LOL Just my thoughts for what little worth they are.
This is a really great project. Makes me wish I had a 1OO6, as always. This thread makes me dream of a 9 x 25 Dillon barrel for my DW Razorback. I have three 4OO6's, but I don't really need a 357 SIG barrel for them. Sure would be cool to see some production photos making the barrels.
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bad_man_ one
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Until this post,
I had not given it much thought, I also own a DW Razorback,
So there is a slight possibility of making one or two.
It would be some time down the road, I'll let you know.
Regards,
BM1
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