ATTN: Denture Wearers. Going For Dentures And WOW It Hurt!

[CAJUNLAWYER]

Gebe, I would disagree on the pulling of teeth. The dentist I went to is not even in this state. But he did not "pull" teeth. The gums are cut while the patient is sedated and the teeth are lifted out. There is no pulling. Pulling damages gums and creates more swelling and problems. He made a cut around my gums and then I watched as he lifted one tooth after another out of my mouth. He made some smoothing actions on the jaw bone and then sewed me up. The teeth were set in and checked for fit. All looseness was taken care of at that time. There was little swelling. I get my permanent set after four months since any swelling would be totally gone by then. In the interim, I will go back for temporary re-lining a couple times.

My word of advice to you is keep the teeth in your mouth and go back often to get them tightened up. NEVER use that dental adhesive as it does not allow a person to learn to control the teeth naturally.

What about some Blue Locktite

 

[oldman45]

What about some Blue Locktite

Well, maybe.

I suppose if someone used that waterproof blue RV silicone on their teeth, it would be just like natural teeth and they would require pulling.

 

[Gebe]

Gebe, I would disagree on the pulling of teeth. The dentist I went to is not even in this state. But he did not "pull" teeth. The gums are cut while the patient is sedated and the teeth are lifted out. There is no pulling. Pulling damages gums and creates more swelling and problems. He made a cut around my gums and then I watched as he lifted one tooth after another out of my mouth. He made some smoothing actions on the jaw bone and then sewed me up. The teeth were set in and checked for fit. All looseness was taken care of at that time. There was little swelling. I get my permanent set after four months since any swelling would be totally gone by then. In the interim, I will go back for temporary re-lining a couple times.

My word of advice to you is keep the teeth in your mouth and go back often to get them tightened up. NEVER use that dental adhesive as it does not allow a person to learn to control the teeth naturally.

oldman,
Sounds like you had a great oral surgeon as well as a great dentist. Your experience was not my experience.

My dentist PULLED my teeth and did not cut them out. In fact I've never heard of what your dentist did. Looks like your dentist may have something there.

Are you talking about dental adhesives such as Poligrip, Sea Bond, etc.?

Man, I'm having flashbacks talking about all this!

Gebe here is a update on my wife she had hers pulled. Two days after she went back and he checked her out and did a small modification to the top plate. Yesterday she went back and he did a small modification to the bottom plate. She has had some soreness but is doing much better last night she made up some shredded pastromi with swiss cheese ,saurkraut and thousand island dressing she has also been able to eat some canned ravioli and spagetti so it's getting better slowly. The dentist has her comeing back weekly for a month to check and adjust as needed.best of luck to you.

Thanks for the update sureshotbob! I was wondering about how she was doing as we both had this done about the same time. Tell her she's got a partner in pain.

 

[Aubie]

oldman,
Sounds like you had a great oral surgeon as well as a great dentist. Your experience was not my experience.

My dentist PULLED my teeth and did not cut them out. In fact I've never heard of what your dentist did. Looks like your dentist may have something there.

Are you talking about dental adhesives such as Poligrip, Sea Bond, etc.?

Man, I'm having flashbacks talking about all this!


Thanks for the update sureshotbob! I was wondering about how she was doing as we both had this done about the same time. Tell her she's got a partner in pain.

Like others have said, Keep the plate in all the time. Also be careful not to let food get under it and make sore spots. Your gums are swollen and the plate will loosen as the swelling goes down. It will have to be relined as swelling goes down and your gums get smaller. This will take about a year for all the healing and shrinking to occur. Don't worry, your gums will get tough as this occurs but if anything like a sesame seed gets under it, get it out quick.

It took me about a month to really be able to chew. You have to chew with food on both sides of your mouth to keep the plate seated. Had to re learn to chew as I always chewed on the right side.

Poligrip and Sea Bond can be your friend until you get the plate seated and fitting properly.

Soon it will all be a memory and you will be tearing up a t-bone just like old times.

 

[oldman45]

oldman,
Sounds like you had a great oral surgeon as well as a great dentist. Your experience was not my experience.

My dentist PULLED my teeth and did not cut them out. In fact I've never heard of what your dentist did. Looks like your dentist may have something there.

Are you talking about dental adhesives such as Poligrip, Sea Bond, etc.?

Man, I'm having flashbacks talking about all this!

Yes, I am talking about things like Poligrip. When one starts with such, it becomes a crutch and the wearer depends on it. Granted, at first there will be some slippage but learning to control that will make a proper fit so much better later.

As to cutting the teeth out, that is common. The difference between a dentist and an oral surgeon is pretty much a dentist pulls teeth and an oral surgeon cuts them out. Many better educated dentists are also oral surgeons these days. Less pain for sure.

As to pulling vs cutting out, the less trauma the gums and jaw bone receives, the less swelling and pain one experiences.

Also people will often begin to have shards of their teeth roots come up through the gums to the surface weeks after pulling. That is due to not getting the entire residue out from the teeth being pulled.

Granted, each person experiences different things but most peopel going to the same dentist will experience the same results. Doing a lot of homework into the dental office you use can save a lot of pain later. My mother had her teeth removed by a dentist with a good reputation and she had a lot of pain with dentures that never fit well so she hated wearing them. My father had his teeth done about the way she did but by a different dentist and never had a problem.

 

[Gebe]

As an update:

Like others have said, Keep the plate in all the time. Also be careful not to let food get under it and make sore spots. Your gums are swollen and the plate will loosen as the swelling goes down. It will have to be relined as swelling goes down and your gums get smaller. This will take about a year for all the healing and shrinking to occur. Don't worry, your gums will get tough as this occurs but if anything like a sesame seed gets under it, get it out quick.

It took me about a month to really be able to chew. You have to chew with food on both sides of your mouth to keep the plate seated. Had to re learn to chew as I always chewed on the right side.

Poligrip and Sea Bond can be your friend until you get the plate seated and fitting properly.

Soon it will all be a memory and you will be tearing up a t-bone just like old times.

Boy Aubie,
That is great encouragement! Thanks for all that and so far, your advice is the best!

Yes, I am talking about things like Poligrip. When one starts with such, it becomes a crutch and the wearer depends on it. Granted, at first there will be some slippage but learning to control that will make a proper fit so much better later.

As to cutting the teeth out, that is common. The difference between a dentist and an oral surgeon is pretty much a dentist pulls teeth and an oral surgeon cuts them out. Many better educated dentists are also oral surgeons these days. Less pain for sure.

As to pulling vs cutting out, the less trauma the gums and jaw bone receives, the less swelling and pain one experiences.

Also people will often begin to have shards of their teeth roots come up through the gums to the surface weeks after pulling. That is due to not getting the entire residue out from the teeth being pulled.

Granted, each person experiences different things but most peopel going to the same dentist will experience the same results. Doing a lot of homework into the dental office you use can save a lot of pain later. My mother had her teeth removed by a dentist with a good reputation and she had a lot of pain with dentures that never fit well so she hated wearing them. My father had his teeth done about the way she did but by a different dentist and never had a problem.

Well oldman,
I really do appreciate your advice and thanks for such but some of us can't shop around to get the best dentist as we have to deal with what we can afford.

You are correct but if I had the money and coverage you had, I would have done what you did. Please don't take offense but I really think you don't understand what goes on with most people that are not in your ballpark but thanks for your advice.

As an update, my gums are still swollen and still hurt! I can chew some stuff that is very soft but my denture is still so loose, I can't eat a thing harder than a hot dog sans bun or condiments.

I'm awaiting my first full realingment in just over 2 weeks and I can't wait but I still have to eat baby food.

Again oldman, I'm so happy you had a great experience but most of us don't have the options you did.

I'm sure if I could afford the best, we would all take your route and I'm glad you could. Unfortunately, most of us cannot.

By the way, I tried Super Polygrip AGAINST your advice and found I can eat things a lot better because this loose dentures is sticking much better. Next I'm going to try Sea Bond and see if that's any better.

This has been an ordeal but with Aubie and others advice, I can almost see a TINY light at the end of the tunnel!

To others that are contemplating having your teeth pulled, if you have the coverage and are willing to pay the extra and have the time to research like oldman did, then go his way because if you read all his posts, it's the way to go.

If you're poor like me and also live rural like me and have limited funds like me, be prepared to suffer a little and get used to this.

Thanks for all your support and I'll update this when I get this flopping denture aligned!

 

[writerinmo]

I used the seabond with my temp plates, worked good, cant stand the poligrip stuff, and there's been a couple lawsuits against them for zinc poisoning out of the goop. I went in for a soft-liner in my temp plates at around the one month mark I believe, they just spread this gunk in the plate and toss it in your mouth and you bite down on it, basically like a latex that hardens fast and acts like a spacer between the plate and your gums/mouth. Helps a lot. Might have to do it every few months. I got my permanent plate like a year after my surgery, it fit perfect and I don't use any sort of adhesive. I went to one of those dentists that have the "Dentures for $99" signs on the side of the interstate, but my wife also recommended them as they had done hers a year or so before we met. Hang in there!!!

 

[oldman45]

Gebe,

I hope things get better for you soon. Your liner will help for sure.

It would be nice to know what coverage I have. I just paid cash for my teeth as I do not have ANY health, dental or vision insurance coverage.

We may look at things a little differently and that is OK. I see dentures, glasses and a few other things as lifetime investments. Unlike a car, clothes and such that are only with us a short while, my dentures are with me 100% of the time. The food I eat, the things I have to bite into and the comfort in my mouth as daily life goes on means a lot to me.

If someone told me that I needed a surgery to save my life, I would find the money to have it. I drive a Buick because I cannot afford Cadillacs anymore at my age. I work every holiday other than Thanksgiving and Christmas. I am likely poorer than you ever thought you were. The lady that lives here only to keep me broke has several lifetime illnesses and a few of them are eventually terminal. She just spent 15 days in a hospital and then 14 days in a rehab facility and now has to have home health care seven days a week. She has metal rods in her feet for bone, all of her heart valves are metal Edwards valves, she has one kidney left, only 30% of her lung capacity and is crippled by RA. None of this comes cheap so I spend a LOT of money to get the medical care she requires.

We have priorites in life. Personal health comes first for me. After that is personal comfort. At one time I may have been considered wealthy but those days are long gone. I simply buy the things that make me feel best and spend a little extra in doing so.

 

[Gebe]

I used the seabond with my temp plates, worked good, cant stand the poligrip stuff, and there's been a couple lawsuits against them for zinc poisoning out of the goop. I went in for a soft-liner in my temp plates at around the one month mark I believe, they just spread this gunk in the plate and toss it in your mouth and you bite down on it, basically like a latex that hardens fast and acts like a spacer between the plate and your gums/mouth. Helps a lot. Might have to do it every few months. I got my permanent plate like a year after my surgery, it fit perfect and I don't use any sort of adhesive. I went to one of those dentists that have the "Dentures for $99" signs on the side of the interstate, but my wife also recommended them as they had done hers a year or so before we met. Hang in there!!!

Thanks much writerinmo but I don't understand why it took a year to get your permanent plate but I'm glad you're now enjoying it. This IS my permanent plate and it's very uncomfortable but hopefully I'll have your results after many realignments.

Gebe,

I hope things get better for you soon. Your liner will help for sure.

It would be nice to know what coverage I have. I just paid cash for my teeth as I do not have ANY health, dental or vision insurance coverage.

We may look at things a little differently and that is OK. I see dentures, glasses and a few other things as lifetime investments. Unlike a car, clothes and such that are only with us a short while, my dentures are with me 100% of the time. The food I eat, the things I have to bite into and the comfort in my mouth as daily life goes on means a lot to me.

If someone told me that I needed a surgery to save my life, I would find the money to have it. I drive a Buick because I cannot afford Cadillacs anymore at my age. I work every holiday other than Thanksgiving and Christmas. I am likely poorer than you ever thought you were. The lady that lives here only to keep me broke has several lifetime illnesses and a few of them are eventually terminal. She just spent 15 days in a hospital and then 14 days in a rehab facility and now has to have home health care seven days a week. She has metal rods in her feet for bone, all of her heart valves are metal Edwards valves, she has one kidney left, only 30% of her lung capacity and is crippled by RA. None of this comes cheap so I spend a LOT of money to get the medical care she requires.

We have priorites in life. Personal health comes first for me. After that is personal comfort. At one time I may have been considered wealthy but those days are long gone. I simply buy the things that make me feel best and spend a little extra in doing so.

Thank you oldman and I'm sorry that I might have misjudged you. This is costing me $8,500.00 out of my own pocket and I'm as broke as you are. This experience has shown me how important teeth are and it's been a real downer that I still can't eat hardly anything which is almost as important as having sex!

I've asked many people that live here in town and they have not heard of cutting teeth out like you had with yours. Good for you that you researched this as I would have paid EXTRA to have your results.

I wish all this pain would go away but I WILL hang in and in a few weeks, it will go away!

 

[writerinmo]

They told me that my mouth (gums, I guess) would "shift", and that if I waited that long to get my permanent one it would fit a lot better and be more comfortable. I have to say I think they're right. The temporary one I was going in and getting the soft liner redone every couple of months as my soft tissues kinda "set" in their new position. I guess it probably wasn't a year, memory plays tricks sometimes but it sure felt like it, as I hate getting them molds done as I have a terrible gag reflex and anxiety attacks. I do have to say that the final result was worth it after years of broken teeth, infections and being sick a lot. I still don't like the upper, usually leave it out unless I'm eating something I really need to chew on, surprising how much stuff you really don't need teeth to eat, lol! Hope everything settles in good for ya though.

 

[Gebe]

They told me that my mouth (gums, I guess) would "shift", and that if I waited that long to get my permanent one it would fit a lot better and be more comfortable. I have to say I think they're right. The temporary one I was going in and getting the soft liner redone every couple of months as my soft tissues kinda "set" in their new position. I guess it probably wasn't a year, memory plays tricks sometimes but it sure felt like it, as I hate getting them molds done as I have a terrible gag reflex and anxiety attacks. I do have to say that the final result was worth it after years of broken teeth, infections and being sick a lot. I still don't like the upper, usually leave it out unless I'm eating something I really need to chew on, surprising how much stuff you really don't need teeth to eat, lol! Hope everything settles in good for ya though.

That is great writerinmo!
That's exactly what I'm going through! I have "gummed" my way through a few meals now. I only have the upper denture and I'm lucky because they told me that the lower denture is the one that I'd have the worst problem. I'm glad they didn't take out take my lowers!