Bad Guy with a High Powered Strobe Light

[old curmudgeon]

We always think of ourselves waiting in our bedroom for the BG to come through the door where we can nail him with ease.

But what if he cones through the door with a high powered strobe.

Say he sticks it around the door with it in flashing mode and then follows.

Can you resist long enough to shoot effectively?

I have a vision problem as it is and so I can not risk additional damage with test scenarios that may not be necessary and that will further damage my eyes.

I am sure that LEO's have practised this and would like to hear how they handled it.

 

[tomcatt51]

I think a hand grenade would be the appropriate response. Of course this assumes the M18s in the hall weren't enough.

 

[The Big D]

Is there a rash of bad guys toting "high powered strobe lights" in your neighborhood?

Frankly, I have never heard of such an attack(s) and surely have never considered a counterattack?

Standing by for more info...

Be safe.

 

[blackcloud45]

Claymores. Works on Xbox

 

[old curmudgeon]

Is there a rash of bad guys toting "high powered strobe lights" in your neighborhood?

Frankly, I have never heard of such an attack(s) and surely have never considered a counterattack?

Standing by for more info...

Be safe.

That is exactly the reason to ask yourself whether you can handle it.

We all are under the assumption that we are going to flash the light in the BG/s eyes and control the situation.

So ....

Who says only good guys can have them?

They go to the same stores we go to.

 

[hatt]

The light isn't going to stop the bullets flying in that direction.

 

[COL Jagdog]

Close one eye -- shoot, then open the other eye.

 

[StatesRightist]

12 GA shotgun with 9 rounds, pointing toward the light is good enough.........

 

[old curmudgeon]

The light isn't going to stop the bullets flying in that direction.

Explain to us why strobes are used.

Then explain how you are immune.

 

[old curmudgeon]

12 GA shotgun with 9 rounds, pointing toward the light is good enough.........

OK, then I guess I am overestimating the effects of the strobe.

I have been told that it is so disconcerting that it makes it very difficult to fight.

That it is paralysing.

So I have been misinformed?

 

[mc5aw]

I think to answer the question reasonably, you must factor in a few additional details to the scenario. Do you hear the BG rooting around downstairs, go to investigate, then get hit with the strobe? Does the BG barge into your bedroom with no warning? Have you caught the BG by surprise, and he turns on the strobe as a response to trying to escape? If I HEAR anyone in my home who I deem to be unauthorized personnel, my first action is to find a safe location and dial 911 for help. If things go south and a confrontation occurs, it comes down to the BG's strobe vs. my firearm ... he will need to have his own firearm behind the strobe to have a fighting chance.

 

[StatesRightist]

OK, then I guess I am overestimating the effects of the strobe.

I have been told that it is so disconcerting that it makes it very difficult to fight.

That it is paralysing.

So I have been misinformed?

I would not want to have to perform extreme accuracy feats shortly after, but looking at it logically it has to be in their hand or on a gun. If it's on a gun it's over with a 12 GA 1st round. I'm going to fire 3 rounds on at the light and one on each side. You will have the sight to do that much.

High end strobes will create a massive flash, but you will not be completely blind. If you are at home, unless you are completely surprised, any noise should be answered with a shotgun, not a pistol. You will get by it as long as you do not panic.

That said I've trained to react after being exposed to CN,CS, OC, flash bangs, strobes etc...as with anything, the more you are exposed to a situation, the better you handle it.

I've never seen a BG use a strobe, I have seen a few with vests on, that is what I would be more worried about identifying if I were you. The odds of seeing either one though as a homeowner are remote.

Hope this answers your question, most home defense answers are a 12GA and a good alarm system with multiple motion sensors in the house and all the entry points wired and covered by glass breaks. That way, they have to either home invade you while you are in the living room or be Houdini to get the drop on you. Even in the home invasion scenario, your alarm should be on and set to stay when you are home....JMO.

 

[mc5aw]

Very valid points ... That strobe is either hand-held or gun mounted, and it should be on the receiving end of everything possible to throw at it.

+1 on the shotgun. Even a 20 gauge will do the job for home defense, if the person firing has done enough practice and preparation.

 

[Kanewpadle]

The reality is the bad guy isn't going to know exactly where you are in the room. They will expect you to take cover on the other side of your bed. So when they open the door and run in there will be a split second where he's looking for you. And you already know where he is because the door opening is only so wide.

To catch him off guard, maybe crouch lower or even position yourself in a closet. When he's searching, shoot him!

Todays LED strobes must be pointed directly at the persons eyes to be effective. And remember, he has to find you while the light is flashing to. So if you move, you'll have better odds.

 

[cwo4uscgret]

Old Cur - place Coonan Model B in right hand, Coonan Cadet in left hand. Synchronize alternating trigger pulls with the strobe; the muzzle flashes from the .357 magnum loads will negate the flashing lights!

 

[ralph7]

stay tuned for next thread...

bad guy w/pit bull that has a q beam duct taped to his head.

 

[old curmudgeon]

I would not want to have to perform extreme accuracy feats shortly after, but looking at it logically it has to be in their hand or on a gun. If it's on a gun it's over with a 12 GA 1st round. I'm going to fire 3 rounds on at the light and one on each side. You will have the sight to do that much.

High end strobes will create a massive flash, but you will not be completely blind. If you are at home, unless you are completely surprised, any noise should be answered with a shotgun, not a pistol. You will get by it as long as you do not panic.

That said I've trained to react after being exposed to CN,CS, OC, flash bangs, strobes etc...as with anything, the more you are exposed to a situation, the better you handle it.

I've never seen a BG use a strobe, I have seen a few with vests on, that is what I would be more worried about identifying if I were you. The odds of seeing either one though as a homeowner are remote.

Hope this answers your question, most home defense answers are a 12GA and a good alarm system with multiple motion sensors in the house and all the entry points wired and covered by glass breaks. That way, they have to either home invade you while you are in the living room or be Houdini to get the drop on you. Even in the home invasion scenario, your alarm should be on and set to stay when you are home....JMO.

I appreciate a serious reply.

Thanks.

 

[Chuck1217]

OK, must say I guess it's possible, but as others have said, I don't think he could get to my bedroom before I heard him- or should I say, before my dog hears him..? The hi-poer strobe is going to disorient you, granted, but it also will make it hard for him to focus on you. Rolling out of bed, on to the floor, shooting towards the light- I guess would be the best bet if you're totally surpised. I just have a little trouble thinking I should spend a lot of time on this one. As we know we should practice as many possible scenarios as possible, and then be aware that the ones we practice for may not be what happens.

 

[Strato]

With all the attention drawn by a high powered strobe and a shootout he most likely isn't there to steal since there wouldn't be time so wouldn't it be easier to just toss a grenade through the window and drive away?

 

[Steve in Vermont]

I'd be more concerned with getting maced.