Bad mouthing good guns

[Yendor357]

I would much rather be talking about how great my gun is, and post targets that I've shot.

But the truth is self evident. Buy a $1200 gun that doesn't work, send it back, gone 3 months, hear nothing, guys tend to air that out.

 

[CBennett047]

I would much rather be talking about how great my gun is, and post targets that I've shot.

But the truth is self evident. Buy a $1200 gun that doesn't work, send it back, gone 3 months, hear nothing, guys tend to air that out.

Oh I agree too..if a certain gun has issues.. id like to be sure if its a that gun or a VERY LOW % of guns or if its more like whats happening right now with the Sig 320.. I have no issue with someone pointing out a make of guns shortcomings as long as its not a general bash of a certain brand across all lines and everything they ever made...and there are a lot of those people also that I generally if its a option toss into the IGNORE bin. On other forums im no if I get the brand X/Y/Z is the best everything else sucks..generally dont need to hear much more onto ignore... or if i see the old every gun ive gotten from brand W is junk the entire lines junk i read that on the interwebz and I need to come here to let you know... that guy also onto Ignore lol..

 

[THE PILGRIM]

By all means, tell the Truth! Which actually may be your opinion, but go for it!
I only have one Problem Gun.
A Beretta 21a.
I seem to have the only one, everybody else's performs just fine!
Some folks have informed me it's not the gun, it's me!
Which is hard for me to process!
Considering I have about 50 guns, including one other Beretta!

 

[toddstang]

I love forums like this. Thanks to the seasoned guys on here that pointed out certain things on my 2nd and 3rd gen Smiths that I never knew were problematic.
I'd rather have forums that point out issues and how to fix them if the manufacturer won't, than to have a "Everything is Perfect!" forum, ran by sponsors and manufacturers.
Knowledge goes a long way!

 

[Jim_Sl]

I don't believe I have ever taken anything I've read on a gun forum as gospel. I hope no one takes offense to that. It is my opinion and this is only my opinion that what you read is ultimately just someone's opinion. Right or wrong, good or bad that's what it is. I listen, I read but I always verify for my own satisfaction. For example, people bashed the first S&W BG 380 for having a long and heavy trigger pull. I bought that pistol because of that. There are other reason I bought it, that's just one of them. You know the old saying "Opinions are like (insert word), everyone has one.

 

[Busch297]

I will give nothing but praise for my two Smith & Wessons. Bodyguard 2.0 hasn't failed one single time, cheap ammo, good ammo, purposely not cleaning it to see how it handles being dirty and nothing but perfect functionality. I wasn't a fan of the factory sights so I had them changed. M&P compact 22, use CCI mini mags and it hasn't had one failure, yes I did try cheap ammo and got the results I expected. Other than that the gun fires every time I pull the trigger. Couldn't be happier with my two.
Next will probably be the Shield X to replace my Glock 43x, I just prefer S&W products.

 

[CBennett047]

I will give nothing but praise for my two Smith & Wessons. Bodyguard 2.0 hasn't failed one single time, cheap ammo, good ammo, purposely not cleaning it to see how it handles being dirty and nothing but perfect functionality. I wasn't a fan of the factory sights so I had them changed. M&P compact 22, use CCI mini mags and it hasn't had one failure, yes I did try cheap ammo and got the results I expected. Other than that the gun fires every time I pull the trigger. Couldn't be happier with my two.
Next will probably be the Shield X to replace my Glock 43x, I just prefer S&W products.

I have a Ruger LcpMax my buddy got the BG 2.0(just the standard one) and we take them shooting swap out shoot each others and I love that 2.0 IF I didnt have one id get one.. but while its good I cant say its im gonna sell my LcpMax and get the 2.0 good.. BOTH are IMO a tie as far as best small TRULY pocket carry pistols on the market now.

 

[pinefd]

I think a lot of people just enjoy bad-mouthing ... it's what they do ... it's in their heart to tear down .
My Momma taught us ...
" If you can't say something nice ... then don't say anything
at all ! "
Mom raised us like that ... Being Nice beats being mean ...
Seven Ways to Sunday ... and then some !
Momma says ... Y'All Be Nice !
Gary

There's another saying that goes something like "you learn from your mistakes". If everything always went smoothly, especially with regard to gun shooting and ownership, then you have a certain expectation that everything will always work as intended, and we're free to go along our merry way. It's when things don't work properly that you have to troubleshoot and/or dig deeper into the cause. That's where forums like this play an important role in peoples' educations into problem solving, and thus the origin of many of the "negative" posts and threads.


Frank

 

[HamBoneZ]

I've been on this forum for years, though my status says otherwise. I've sometimes gone months not getting a notice from my email from my forum sites I like to visit, not sure how that works.

But anyway, having a csx, imo it's a innovative design with one slight flaw to it. The trigger is awful, you start getting to the third mag or so and your really feeling how stiff it is. Series e makes it a little better.

Now going into discussions on other s&w semi auto's....imo the plastic models not worth it. Seen to many problems and replaced to many parts on items that i feel should not be a issue. S&w should stick with their metal guns & revolvers.

I don't work on guns anymore, I still collect and work on stuff for family & friends. And regardless of brand, there is usually something on some firearm that i feel can be improved upon. Triggers most common, or something flawed in the action itself. Heck I've had stuff I've worked on for years because of money constraints. I like making precision stuff tailored to me.

 

[bph9]

I have been on this site for a day or 2. I have seen people talk good about guns and bad about guns, specifically S&W guns. As this is a S&W forum I can understand it. What I can't understand is why people feel necessary to join the forum for the sole purpose of slamming a firearm. Specifically BG 2.0 and the CSX. I found 10 threads slamming the BG and of those 10 threads, all of them were from people that just joined the forum in 2025. It has been a little bit, but the whipping boy was the CSX and now I assume it will be the new CSX-E's turn. I am waiting for baited breath to see who comes out of the woodwork to complain about the E.

Just as a FYI, I used the original CSX to qualify to carry as a law enforcement officer. No problems, no trigger issues, no jammed rounds, no no no. I understand that people want to talk about issues but, not sure that 10 people joining with the specific intent to complain (wanted to use the b word here but.....). I even think that several of the posts may be by the same person as the style is just so close to other posts that it may not be a mere coincidence.

If you want help with a firearm that may have an issue, fine. You are in the right place. If you have come here to complain, sell your S&W and buy a Glock or Sig, that have to be better...........right?

You only learn about firearms when the forum allows free speech and also use critical thinking which includes people who complain (which you are doing now). All complaints are not always frivolous and often lead to even more people posting some of their own experiences and hands on testing which ends up going far deeper than just complaining. The old axiom "Where there is smoke there is fire applies here.

I am not a gun dealer selling firearms nor do I suffer from advanced paranoia and my subconscious security blanket is not taken away from me if I read about a defect even in a favorite firearm that I might own. In fact I welcome such information because then I can take such action to either check out my firearm for the alleged defect, or repair it, or simply use it for recreational shooting only and then start relying on another brand or model firearm which may be superior or more reliable.

There is no bigger waste of time when logging on to a form where the rules are "Everything is beautiful" and everyone must tow the "party line" and never tell the truth because you might hurt someone's feelings or trash their subconscious security blanket about their favorite firearm by telling them the truth about it.

 

[MTC(SS)Ret]

Personally I came here to learn. Years ago, on impulse, I placed one bid on a Model 17 on GB and lo and behold I won. I became the proud owner of a beautiful S&W, my first revolver of any kind, and I had ZERO idea on how to take care of it. Through the years on the forum I have learned so much from the friendly, helpful forum members who took the time to answer my questions I can't thank them enough.
That's just my 4 cents worth (adjusted for inflation).

 

[lightstar_actual]

I am an "early adopter", and the CSX was no exception. After 500+ rounds of uninterrupted range time, I decided if the only thing I could hit with it was the floor, then it wasn't for me. Sold it and used the money to have my SW1911 PD redone by the factory. Carry it now.... or my Model 19-4. YMMV

 

[Deadeye Dick]

I think it's just human nature. If we are content, we aren't inclined to crow about it. But if we have a problem, we want to tell the world. So you are not likely to hear from the hundreds of thousands who are happy with their purchase, whether it be a car, appliance, pair of shoes or a gun. But you are very likely to hear from the dozen or so people that are having a problem. It's just the way it is and you have take that into account when you read these forums.

 

[IAM Rand]

Still, it seems that everyone here has missed my point. I pointed out 10 people that in 2025 joined this forum were complaining about 1 firearm, BG 2.0. I felt that was unusual. Even several threads posted by supposedly different people were is a style that seemed were done by the same person under different member names.

I am not some S&W sycophant. I believe in S&W, but as I pointed out, every major gun manufacture like every car manufacture has had problems. Got it. If someone comes here to get advice about a problem they are having or have had, great! These 10 posts seemed to be more about bad mouthing the BG 2.0. There is much I have learned here and I like coming here to see what other people have to say. Be constructive not destructive. If you have a beef with S&W and you just want to complain, that is a waste of time. Not just whining people.

Just sayin

 

[Deadeye Dick]

I pointed out 10 people that in 2025 joined this forum were complaining about 1 firearm, BG 2.0. I felt that was unusual. Even several threads posted by supposedly different people were is a style that seemed were done by the same person under different member names.

Seems like it would be an awful lot of effort and trouble to sign up under multiple accounts just to rag on one particular model of firearm. As you stated your self it would be a waste of time, and unlikely anyone would do that. But, I could be wrong.

 

[jeffrefrig]

I think I joined two other forums around when I joined this one. One particular one was darned near all complaints about their new Ru…guns! I've only had one send-back for a S&W and one Ruger. I've bought some other brands pistols and revolvers and have had no issues. Human nature is natural.

 

[TigerDude]

Probably just a bunch of people who got burned by S&W's DEI Approved Quality Control.

Definitely the brown people and women, because no way it's a company run by white guys.

I'm sure you're used to talking this way with your buddies, but this right after a bunch of people told us how nice the forum was. Nice for certain people I guess.

 

[Echo40]

Definitely the brown people and women, because no way it's a company run by white guys.

I'm sure you're used to talking this way with your buddies, but this right after a bunch of people told us how nice the forum was. Nice for certain people I guess.

Or perhaps I'm just against the practice of hiring personnel based on diversity as opposed to their qualifications?

 

[DixieRanger]

The forum is good from where i sit. Learn everyday. It even give us a choice of the authors and what threads we see...it's the IGNORE switch. Only takes a minute...gettin' ready to use it now...

 

[Dan5809]

I have been on this site for a day or 2. I have seen people talk good about guns and bad about guns, specifically S&W guns. As this is a S&W forum I can understand it. What I can't understand is why people feel necessary to join the forum for the sole purpose of slamming a firearm. Specifically BG 2.0 and the CSX. I found 10 threads slamming the BG and of those 10 threads, all of them were from people that just joined the forum in 2025. It has been a little bit, but the whipping boy was the CSX and now I assume it will be the new CSX-E's turn. I am waiting for baited breath to see who comes out of the woodwork to complain about the E.

Just as a FYI, I used the original CSX to qualify to carry as a law enforcement officer. No problems, no trigger issues, no jammed rounds, no no no. I understand that people want to talk about issues but, not sure that 10 people joining with the specific intent to complain (wanted to use the b word here but.....). I even think that several of the posts may be by the same person as the style is just so close to other posts that it may not be a mere coincidence.

If you want help with a firearm that may have an issue, fine. You are in the right place. If you have come here to complain, sell your S&W and buy a Glock or Sig, that have to be better...........right?