all357mag
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Does anyone make a longer barrel for the MP 15-22? A 22"-24" would be perfect!
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CrazyFingers
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For what purpose?
If you're looking for extreme long-range accuracy, you bought the wrong rifle.
If you're looking for extreme long-range accuracy, you bought the wrong rifle.
yugowego
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I would look for a nice bolt action for long range group shooting.
Drunk3n Snip3R
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doesnt the pc version have a 18" barrel? I know its not as long as he is looking for but it is longer I believe.
yugowego
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Yes it does.
yugowego
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Excuse me?!
Rapidray
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I have been wanting a longer barrel also...ever since they first came out. personally I would love a 28 inch barrel...yea you guys can trash me...I am used to it...lol. That is why I have my ruger with the green mountain barrel in 28 inch.
Kayback
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28" on a .22 is a little excessive. You need at most 20".
KBK
KBK
Kayback
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Ture, but there is no reason to have a 28" barrel on a .22. It'll actually REDUCE the effectiveness of it.
Rapidray
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for under 100 yards a short barrel is ok...but shoot it at 300 or 400 yards and you will want the longer barrel. Oh and we are talking paper puching here. the longer barrel will also give you more sight radius to play with. at these yards you higher velocity will work against you...sound barrier and when it drops back it you will have air knocking it around a little. that is one reason match ammo is slow.
as zload said YMMV
as zload said YMMV
Kayback
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Ah, No.
The longer barrel will do NOTHING besides maybe give you a longer sight radius, which can be negated by using a scope. Anyway the sight on the 15-22 is the length of the hand guard, not the barrel. So even if you had a 1000" barrel, unless you installed a gas block style sight your sight radius is about 14".
If you shoot 400 yards with a .22 you are a much better shot than I am, but that aside, the best length for a .22 barrel is around 14-20" depending on the ammunition used.
And if you want to shoot 400 yards, you do not use a polymer framed gun like the 15-22.
KBK
The longer barrel will do NOTHING besides maybe give you a longer sight radius, which can be negated by using a scope. Anyway the sight on the 15-22 is the length of the hand guard, not the barrel. So even if you had a 1000" barrel, unless you installed a gas block style sight your sight radius is about 14".
If you shoot 400 yards with a .22 you are a much better shot than I am, but that aside, the best length for a .22 barrel is around 14-20" depending on the ammunition used.
And if you want to shoot 400 yards, you do not use a polymer framed gun like the 15-22.
KBK
Gopher Slayer
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Haven't seen one.
To me it would be like putting a supercharger on a Prius.
There are more important accuracy-limiting factors to consider other than barrel length. For example - how the barrel is supported, how the barrel mounts to the receiver, and the material the upper receiver is made from.
To me it would be like putting a supercharger on a Prius.
There are more important accuracy-limiting factors to consider other than barrel length. For example - how the barrel is supported, how the barrel mounts to the receiver, and the material the upper receiver is made from.
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Rapidray
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well how far do you shoot?? If I may ask.
why not a polymer?
Kayback
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I shoot to around 120m maximum with a .22, most often at 15-30m. I shoot 500m on the odd occasion with various rifles chambered from .303B to .300 Win Mag so I can do it, just not with a .22.
Why not a polymer? Because the polymer used in the 15-22 flexes. It does not offer the same shot to shot consistency as other materials. The barrel is held to the upper with two sandwiched wedges of plastic. The barrel also isn't free floated, which means any pressure on the forend will deflect the barrel, even if only slightly. At 400 yards that slightly will totally ruin your shot to shot consistency.
The 15-22 is not a precision gun.
KBK
Why not a polymer? Because the polymer used in the 15-22 flexes. It does not offer the same shot to shot consistency as other materials. The barrel is held to the upper with two sandwiched wedges of plastic. The barrel also isn't free floated, which means any pressure on the forend will deflect the barrel, even if only slightly. At 400 yards that slightly will totally ruin your shot to shot consistency.
The 15-22 is not a precision gun.
KBK
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DelFuego
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I think that this all boils down to a barrel fetish. To some, 16 inches or shorter will suffice and to others, 28 inches is not enough. It is okay to like one or the other and it has something to do with a son's mother.
To understand this, you don't need to consult gun manuals and such. You just need to understand some of Freud's writings on the subject. Here is a link that will help you understand the real issue underlying the need for a 28 inch barrel:
Bad Subjects: Fetishizing the Fetish
To understand this, you don't need to consult gun manuals and such. You just need to understand some of Freud's writings on the subject. Here is a link that will help you understand the real issue underlying the need for a 28 inch barrel:
Bad Subjects: Fetishizing the Fetish
Argonnakid
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How is the barrel not free floated? If you pull out the end cap on the handguard the barrel touches nothing all the way back to the upper.
Kayback
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If.
If you don't, it isn't. Even if you do it still isn't mounted the most effectively and flexes randomly during the shot.
Rapidray
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And here I thought you had something good to contribute. Freud? Please see my signature.
Am at work. Will be back on tonight.
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Majorlk
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Sense of humor, man. Sense of humor.
I fail to see how 2nd Timothy 1:7 applies, but that's a theological discussion for some other forum.
DelFuego
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Sense of humor, man. Sense of humor.
I fail to see how 2nd Timothy 1:7 applies, but that's a theological discussion for some other forum.
I disagree, 2nd Timothy 1:7 does apply to a barrel that is less than 28 inches long. It ends with having been given a "sound mind". Therefore, you would not long for a 28 inch barrel and nullify many of Freud's fallacies.
Majorlk
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atvdave
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I personally would like to see replacement barrels for the M&P 15-22. This is one of the reason's the ruger 10/22 is so appealing to me and others as you can mod the heck out of it, and replacement parts are everywhere.
Also barrels can get damaged and need replaced, or you purchased it used and the person didn't take care of it. I see no difference about wanting to replace the barrel with a longer, or shorter one (with-in the law) as many on the message board have put fake suppressors, barrel shroud, different color grips & stock. You did those things because you think it improves the look of the gun, and I agree that it does. There is nothing wrong with it, as I feel there is nothing wrong with wanting a new barrel... long or short.
Also barrels can get damaged and need replaced, or you purchased it used and the person didn't take care of it. I see no difference about wanting to replace the barrel with a longer, or shorter one (with-in the law) as many on the message board have put fake suppressors, barrel shroud, different color grips & stock. You did those things because you think it improves the look of the gun, and I agree that it does. There is nothing wrong with it, as I feel there is nothing wrong with wanting a new barrel... long or short.
Straightshooter2
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Yep, I have one of these on my 15-22 so that it matches my Colt AR.
RX01NSN
I don't know about that 16-20" specification for a .22LR barrel. Probably the most accurate .22 I own is a Springfield (Savage/Stevens) Model 50 single shot. It has a 24" barrel and was made circa 1930.
CW
Rapidray
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the reason I asked is because up untill after WW2, small bore matchs were shot at ranges from 50 yards to 300 yards. The bigger national matchs were at Sea Girt, New Jersey and of course Camp Perry. The ISSF, international shooting sport federation, cut back there ranges over seas. So we had to cut back to 100 meters. The kiss of death. We have lost a lot, because new shooters will not take the time to shoot at those ranges. Some do not even know a 22LR will go that far. Learning to read the wind and apply doping is all most lost.
the next time you go out with the big guns at the long ranges I hope you will take the 22 and give it a try...you might surprise yourself.
long day...goodnight.
Rapidray
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Kayback
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The only .22's I own are a Colt .22 pistol and the 15-22 rifle. Like I said the 15-22 isn't capable of 300m shots. Maybe it is ME with the 15-22 that isn't capable.
I know the .22 can be shot that far. I'm arguing if the 15-22 is the platform to do it from. Even with a longer barrel it isn't the correct platform.
As for the super accurate 24" barrel bolt rifles, I'm willing to bet cutting them back to 20" won't change anything. We did that with my friends BRNO and it still shoots as accurately as it ever did over 200m.
KBK
Majorlk
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Interesting that all the after-market match barrels for the 10/22 are either 16.5, 18 or 20 inches. If the longer barrels were all more accurate, the market would be flooded with them. Center-fire may well be a different matter.
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