Barrel

[Rapidray]

I think that this all boils down to a barrel fetish. To some, 16 inches or shorter will suffice and to others, 28 inches is not enough. It is okay to like one or the other and it has something to do with a son's mother.

To understand this, you don't need to consult gun manuals and such. You just need to understand some of Freud's writings on the subject. Here is a link that will help you understand the real issue underlying the need for a 28 inch barrel:
Bad Subjects: Fetishizing the Fetish

And here I thought you had something good to contribute. Freud? Please see my signature.
Am at work. Will be back on tonight.

 

[Majorlk]

And here I thought you had something good to contribute. Freud? Please see my signature.

Sense of humor, man. Sense of humor.

I fail to see how 2nd Timothy 1:7 applies, but that's a theological discussion for some other forum.

 

[DelFuego]

Sense of humor, man. Sense of humor.

I fail to see how 2nd Timothy 1:7 applies, but that's a theological discussion for some other forum.

I disagree, 2nd Timothy 1:7 does apply to a barrel that is less than 28 inches long. It ends with having been given a "sound mind". Therefore, you would not long for a 28 inch barrel and nullify many of Freud's fallacies.

 

[Majorlk]

I disagree, 2nd Timothy 1:7 does apply to a barrel that is less than 28 inches long. It ends with having been given a "sound mind". Therefore, you would not long for a 28 inch barrel and nullify many of Freud's fallacies.

Interesting interpretation. I'll have to see what Matthew Henry has to say about it.

 

[atvdave]

I personally would like to see replacement barrels for the M&P 15-22. This is one of the reason's the ruger 10/22 is so appealing to me and others as you can mod the heck out of it, and replacement parts are everywhere.

Also barrels can get damaged and need replaced, or you purchased it used and the person didn't take care of it. I see no difference about wanting to replace the barrel with a longer, or shorter one (with-in the law) as many on the message board have put fake suppressors, barrel shroud, different color grips & stock. You did those things because you think it improves the look of the gun, and I agree that it does. There is nothing wrong with it, as I feel there is nothing wrong with wanting a new barrel... long or short.

 

[Straightshooter2]

Come on folks some have sights/gadgets worth more than the rifle, to each his own or YMMV...

Yep, I have one of these on my 15-22 so that it matches my Colt AR.
RX01NSN

I don't know about that 16-20" specification for a .22LR barrel. Probably the most accurate .22 I own is a Springfield (Savage/Stevens) Model 50 single shot. It has a 24" barrel and was made circa 1930.

CW

 

[Rapidray]

I shoot to around 120m maximum with a .22, most often at 15-30m. I shoot 500m on the odd occasion with various rifles chambered from .303B to .300 Win Mag so I can do it, just not with a .22.
KBK

the reason I asked is because up untill after WW2, small bore matchs were shot at ranges from 50 yards to 300 yards. The bigger national matchs were at Sea Girt, New Jersey and of course Camp Perry. The ISSF, international shooting sport federation, cut back there ranges over seas. So we had to cut back to 100 meters. The kiss of death. We have lost a lot, because new shooters will not take the time to shoot at those ranges. Some do not even know a 22LR will go that far. Learning to read the wind and apply doping is all most lost.

the next time you go out with the big guns at the long ranges I hope you will take the 22 and give it a try...you might surprise yourself.

long day...goodnight.

 

[Rapidray]

I disagree, 2nd Timothy 1:7 does apply to a barrel that is less than 28 inches long. It ends with having been given a "sound mind". Therefore, you would not long for a 28 inch barrel and nullify many of Freud's fallacies.

Thank you sir!

 

[Kayback]

the next time you go out with the big guns at the long ranges I hope you will take the 22 and give it a try...you might surprise yourself.

long day...goodnight.

The only .22's I own are a Colt .22 pistol and the 15-22 rifle. Like I said the 15-22 isn't capable of 300m shots. Maybe it is ME with the 15-22 that isn't capable.

I know the .22 can be shot that far. I'm arguing if the 15-22 is the platform to do it from. Even with a longer barrel it isn't the correct platform.

As for the super accurate 24" barrel bolt rifles, I'm willing to bet cutting them back to 20" won't change anything. We did that with my friends BRNO and it still shoots as accurately as it ever did over 200m.

KBK

 

[Majorlk]

The only .22's I own are a Colt .22 pistol and the 15-22 rifle. Like I said the 15-22 isn't capable of 300m shots. Maybe it is ME with the 15-22 that isn't capable.

I know the .22 can be shot that far. I'm arguing if the 15-22 is the platform to do it from. Even with a longer barrel it isn't the correct platform.

As for the super accurate 24" barrel bolt rifles, I'm willing to bet cutting them back to 20" won't change anything. We did that with my friends BRNO and it still shoots as accurately as it ever did over 200m.

KBK

Interesting that all the after-market match barrels for the 10/22 are either 16.5, 18 or 20 inches. If the longer barrels were all more accurate, the market would be flooded with them. Center-fire may well be a different matter.

 

[Rapidray]

Hope this works...28 inch Green Mountain S/S barrel on my 10/22. They, along with several other companies make them in 16 to 30 inches!

 

[Majorlk]

I stand corrected. Even so, there's still no practical difference in those extra long barrels in .22 LR.

Whatever turns you on or makes you feel good.