Barter items for the Apocalypse...

Every day, and year round, in the back of my Jeep, , I have a chain saw, extra sharpened chain, and at least a gallon of freshly mixed gas and a gallon of bar oil. Also rope and a AR 7 survival style 22. I have used the rope and saw frequently to get out of places where trees have fallen across the road. The jeep helps a lot as well. This to me is just common sense, and not some apocalyptic "what if".

I know for a fact that every year, in my part of the country, that these items will come in handy, and maybe save my life. Last winter, for example, 6 degrees below zero, 20" of snow, power out, stuck at my cabin because a large tree across the road. With the saw, and rope, just a few minutes to be able to get out to a public road. I also have a generator at the cabin, and wood burning stove, so I could have stayed there for awhile, but one can't always count on when the power is coming back on, etc.

These are the emergencies that are, in my opinion, the most likely to occur, as they have done so before, and frequently. Not to say that other things might not occur, but I think it makes sense to play the percentages. I have most of the other items on your list also, John.

Best Regards, Les
 
Gee I thought all dooms day stuff was tinfoil hat lunacy. I guess there are a few that think it is highly possible.
Isn't it strange reports this weekend of bombs going off in at least three cities. HMMM Are things about to get wild here on the home front that in the past were in other countries?
All I can say is don't expect the mass news media to inform anyone it is about to happen.
 
Sugar and salt are some of the most important things. Of course water is too. No doubt many things are but with simple sugar and salt you can turn rsw meat into edible preserved meat.

Salt is also medicinal. Aside from killing bacteria it is also a cure for goiters, which is caused by iodine deficiency.






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I am very surprised no one suggested
" GUNS" !!!!
If they don't have one they will certainly want one!
Guns are actually a very small part. I know, I know ...gun forum. But still. You can only use a max of 2 at a time and not all the time. Food, water and medicine are way more important. Without a gun you can live indefinitely but without water only a month or so.

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Gee I thought all dooms day stuff was tinfoil hat lunacy. I guess there are a few that think it is highly possible.
Y'know, I'm not sure I would call it "doomsday stuff." After growing up hearing parents and grandparents talk about living through the depression, I'm starting to think that stocking up on a few necessary, but basic, items isn't that bad of an idea after all.

Like a few of you, I always keep some things in my pickup. Behind the seat is an old wooden ammo box with some canned goods, rope, fire starters, small camp axe, skillet and small coffee pot, along with some other odds and ends. Along with that, I have a good, heavy wool blanket folded up on the rear seat. I also usually keep a back pack stocked up with enough gear to help me get by in case I get stuck up the canyon or can't get home for one reason or another.

Anyway, I'm not planning on a zombie apocalypse or anything, but I sure as heck don't want to be "caught with my pants down," so to speak.:)
 
Mule Packer, that is my opinion exactly. The odds of apocalypse vs the odds of getting stranded in the outback are pretty steep. I live where trees fall across the road frequently. Power goes out frequently. Roads covered with to much snow to drive through frequently. These are real threats, and are easily dealt with if we prepare, and almost impossible to deal with if we don't. Another real story just this last winter, came out and a big tree had fallen ON my Jeep. Branches all around it, could just crawl through the branches to the back of the Jeep and get out the chain saw. Ten minutes work to cut enough wood that I could get in the jeep and drive out from under the rest of the tree. No saw, big problem. With a saw, just an inconvenience. Funny thing is, after I got the vehicle free, no glass broken, and only minor scratches on the thing.

Best Regards, Les
 
I don't know if I would necessarily be Bartering with any of the supplies that I would be putting aside for such a situation. If things get to the point of bartering , I think it will most likely be with the Swapping of lead, not supplies. Self sufficiency with like minded people or close friends and family would be the order of the day.
 
For BARTER purposes (which was the original topic, not survival supplies), about everything else is second to tobacco products. .22 ammo would also be up there in demand.
 
I would imagine .38 special ammo would be a decent barter item, since almost everyone around these parts has one, but nowhere near a full box of ammo.

I'd likely be bartering with friends only, everyone else can "Get Bent".
 
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Ammo and Medicine would be the Top items to have.
But if Your worried about it then You need to learn how to Fish and Hunt and survive in a hostile environment as there will most likely be Looters and Others that want to take what You have.
This is assuming that Martial Law is not in effect and We wont be shot for going out of Our allotted areas.
 
Here is the list of supplies taken for 1 person for 1year in the Alaskan bush. This is not a suggestion, this is the gentlemen's actual items used for one year in the bush.

A More Complete Supply List
After my experiences the first two winters, I composed the following list. This is for one man for five to six months. It was refined for my personal taste and needs in the Alaska bush. The old trapper that I got my first list from made do with a lot less than what I took. This list is tried and true and not a just theory that someone made up. I had around 200 traps and ran the line on snowshoes, foot and skis. Cut my firewood by hand (no chain saw) and hauled my water from the lake in buckets. It was hard work 12-15 hours a day 7 days a week and I burned a lot of calories. Using the following list I ate well and always had plenty of supplies left in the spring:
50 lbs Flour
50 lbs Bisquick
25 lbs Pancake mix
35 lbs Sugar
50 lbs Pinto Beans
25 lbs Rice
40 lbs Salt pork
25 lbs Salt
10 lbs Dried prunes
10 lbs Raisons
10 lbs Dried apricots
10 lbs Dried apples
10 lbs Dried peaches
25 lbs Oatmeal
10 lbs Honey
2 cases Tomato paste
25 lbs powdered milk
15 lbs [canned] Butter
25 lbs Corn meal
25 lbs [canned] Cheese
20 lbs Spaghetti Noodles
10 lbs Crisco
15 lbs Hot cocoa mix
10 lbs Dried eggs
5 lbs Strawberry Jam
3 lbs Apricot Jam
2 boxes Pilot bread
1 gal Maple Syrup
180 Multi vitamins
180 Vitamin C
1 lb [powdered dry] Yeast
180 Tea bags
1 lbs Pepper
1 lbs
Baking soda
8 lbs
Dried onions
1 lb Baking powder
1 lb. Corn starch
24 oz Garlic powder
12 oz Vanilla
2 rolls aluminum foil
1/2 gal Dish soap
5 bars non-scented soap
36 Canning lids (to can meat if we had a winter thaw or for leftover in the spring)
8 oz Hydrogen peroxide
2 oz Iodine
12 rolls Toilet paper
2 Small sponges
2 Scrub pads
1 roll Duct Tape
4 boxes of wooden Matches
24 Plumber's candles
500 rounds .22 long rifle hollow point ammo
100 .308 ammo 125 grain hollow point varmint ammo
20 rounds .308 ammo 180 grain (for Moose or Caribou )
Trapping license and regulations
Hunting license, moose tags and caribou tags
New snowshoe bindings
1 truck inner tube
3 New hacksaw blades
2 New Ax handles
8 Bow saw blades
36 oz Lanolin
6 Disposable lighters
12 gal White gas [aka Coleman Fuel]
12 Lantern mantels
6 oz. Gun oil
Trapping Lures, urine and musk
10 lbs Trap wax
2 rolls Survey ["flagging"] tape
1 pair Heavy Neoprene trapping gloves
7 lbs Trapping wire( 50% 12 ga and 50% 14 ga)
50 ft Trap Chain #2 and #3
24 Links
24 Swivels
AM Radio with 8 extra 9 volt batteries
8' New stove pipe for cabin stove
4 Leather awl needles and 50' waxed thread
Extra shoulder straps for pack frame
Extra hip belt for pack
New lid for fry pan 14"
100' – 3/8 nylon rope
12×18" glass to replace cracked window
Personal items
1 Wool Jacket
2 Wool pants
2 Work pants
1 Pair insulated Carhartt coveralls
4 Pair work gloves
2 Pair heavy winter over mittens.
Winter trappers hat
1 pair
Pack boots with 2 sets liners
1 pair Bunny Boots
1 Wool sweater
4 pair long sleeved wool shirts
3 pair Wool long john pants
3 pair Wool long john shirts
8 pair Wool socks
8 pair Cotton socks
6 pair Underpants
1 Bible
2 flying ground school books
6 Short sleeve Cotton shirts
Tooth brush
Tooth powder
2 rolls dental floss
Carried or in an external frame pack:
1 .308 rifle
1 22 pistol (Colt Woodsman)
Rain coat
Rain pants
Insolite sleeping pad
Sleeping bag
10×12' and 4×8' light nylon tarps
Flashlight
Flashlight batteries
Binoculars, 10×40
Green River skinning knife, caping knife, boning knife.
Small stone, small file and small diamond steel
Compass
Topo maps 1:250,000 scale
2 Candles
Matches in waterproof container
Lighter
Small cook pot with lid
Water bottle
100' Parachute cord
Small First aid kit with Large suture needles and suture, in sealed pack
Mini channel locks (Snap-on) used for sutures and other things
Pack repair kit
¾-length Hand ax. (Estwing)
Small shovel
Bow saw with extra blade
1 pair wool socks
Wire snares
Fish hooks and line
25' .042" stainless wire
1 lb Dried soup mix
 
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