BATFE ID Requirements Change?

[Sistema1927]

My CCW, MILID, and VAHC all have my middle initial only. My DL has full middle name, but not my suffix (III).

Good thing that my US Passport has it all. Guess I will need to tuck that into my pocket whenever I buy a gun now.

 

[Heinz]

SC DL has my full name

 

[Capt. F.]

OK, I'm from Iowa, home to the most farmers and "good old boys" in the country. Our state issued drivers licenses have ALWAYS had our FULL LEGAL NAME on them. Are there states out there that just use an initial for the middle name? Inquiring minds want to know!

My Maine drivers license has my middle initial only.

 

[Old_Cop]

ATF is so efficient that it has been eleven months waiting for approval for a .22 suppressor. Back in the day I had to correct a 4473 because my place of birth was Prov. RI, not Providence RI. Detail oriented I guess.

 

[NYlakesider]

QUOTE=AJ;141380914]My name is A. John Glaser III. The first four years I was in the Corps. They could not understand having an initial for a first name. So I was John A. Glaser III. Upon my reenlistment I had enough rank for the admin chief to really listen to me and he finally straightened it out.[/QUOTE]



General H Norman Schwarzkopf[ was his full name. I do not remember there being much trouble With a H as a first name hurting his career!



His fathers name was Herbert Norman Schwarzkopf the first superintendent of the New Jersey State Police. He is best known for his involvement in the Lindbergh kidnapping ..

 

[glenwolde]

Okay, I just went to the ATF websites FAQ page concerning ID on the ATF Form 4473. It says that the transferee must provide a photo ID with the transferee's FULL LEGAL NAME. Supplemental documents can be used to verify the FULL LEGAL NAME but must be issued by a government agency! This is ********. There is no indication of when this change took place.

I'm not sure if it's a change in the rules or just increased enforcement. Not that it matters.

 

[deputydon]

This is interesting. My KS DL has my full middle name. My KS CC license has only my middle initial. Wonder if they will fix that when I renew?

 

[PALADIN85020]

My AZ drivers license has my full middle name spelled out, also my photo, address, and veteran status. It's aircraft boarding legal also. Who could ask for anything more?

John

 

[NYlakesider]

Oklahoma just puts a middle initial on driver's licenses, handgun licenses, security guard licenses, hunting licenses, and police certification cards. My DD FORM 2 (RETIRED) US ARMY IDENTIFICATION CARD JUST HAS MY MIDDLE INITIAL IN THE BLOCK BELOW MY RANK AND SIGNATURE!

Sorry. Didn't mean to shout. I did find a document that has my FULL LEGAL NAME AND ADDRESS. So, tomorrow I will go back to academy with all my photo IDs and my wife's DEATH CERTIFICATE! Sorry about shouting again.

Sent with some arcane communications device.

Well I just went and looked and my NY state drivers Linc has only the middle initial, Federal passport has only a middle initial and my NY state pistol permit (first issued early 1970s) has only a middle initial.

 

[Onomea]

I just checked: My Oregon real ID/DL and CHL, my Utah out-of-state CFP, and my passport have my full first, middle and last names.

 

[pharmer]

A couple years back I had to go back (after several calls) to the WalMart when I put St Cloud instead of Saint Cloud on a 4473. Recently I bought a Handgun from Academy. It took 2 1/2 hours for approval because I put my middle initial on the E4473 and my DL has nothing. Academy ain't the problem. Joe

 

[Puller]

And exactly how does this full name thing impact illegal gun owners?? Oh yeah, it doesn't.

 

[wood714]

My OK. drivers license has my full middle name.

Just checked my FL. drivers license...also full middle name.

And the gold star.

 

[RCL-09]

Many, many moons ago the pawn shop I worked at got audited. The auditor found oneform where the person used an abbreviation instead of spelling the full word (I think it was a middle name, or part of the address) the shop got dinged and the owner had to track the purchaser down (3 hour drive away), talk to him, take the form to him and have it corrected and initialed.

I have never, ever seen a 4473,filled out by hand, where an abbreviation was acceptable.

 

[pawngal]

FFL dealer myself, I still use the call in system and the first thing asked is "Does the name and address in section B of the 4473 form exactly match the government issued ID?" If you answer no, you cannot proceed.

 

[SMSgt]

FL DL--First, middle, last.
Mil ID--First, Middle Initial, Last.

Federal gov't wants what it does not provide?

 

[irish132]

IA DL has full middle name listed.
My DD2 (Retired AF) also has full middle name listed. Guessing the DD2 is based on information loaded in MILPDS when new ID's are issued. IRRC my old mil ID had my full middle name listed when I was still active.

 

[NYlakesider]

FFL dealer myself, I still use the call in system and the first thing asked is "Does the name and address in section B of the 4473 form exactly match the government issued ID?" If you answer no, you cannot proceed.

I thought if the SS number was given it would simplify things!

 

[The Norseman]

X marks the spot

That’s why you never sign a document with
an “X” written on the line to sign.

The X is not part of my Name and not legal
to my Name.

 

[MDF4]

Hmmm. that could be a problem for me. Middle name is "W" period. Passport, SS card, DL, FAA, DD etc.Don't know why but I'm 4th generation fathers side with the initial W.
I just check section B of 4473 and it says if initial only include "IO."
Who knows with the ATF.