HOW To get firearms in FRANCE

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Welcome to the Forum. I was in France back in 2001 and saw it changing and not for the better. Sounds like it really went down the rabbit hole since then.
 
New guy in France

Welcome aboard on the Zoo express.

You could contact member danalex regarding gun stuff in France. He is
in Strasbourg and very knowledgeable in gun rules in France.

-deputydon - in Kansas USA
 
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Hi,
Of course gangsters, criminals and terrorist will find guns in the black market. This is no possible to control, but our law makes that "normal and basic" people will NOT be able to buy weapons that easily and this to secure with a very strong control. This has to effect to limit violence. 99% of violence in France are done without guns. My remark was just explain that i am happy to know that IF my neighbor wants to buy a gun and administration, police and doctors thinks he doesn't match with gun owning, then i can sleep better. To compare, following Gunpolicy.org, in 2016 39000 people has been killed with firearms in the US while it is 1590 in France. Based on the proportion of the two populations, there are 5 times fewer gunshot deaths in France (accidents, homicides and suicides).
BUT I am not in position to judge anything in your country that i really really love, I lived there for a while, worked and fall in love many time and I fall in love with USA. Also I can not live without going to the range.

My thread was just to inform and explain how it is abroad. NOT to compare which system is better. Nothing else. For sure, we have some problems to solve in France, And i will support our politics what ever left or right wings if they can solve those problems. It is just a political question that no one Yet has the courage to face. Abraham Lincoln said "The ballot is stronger than the bullet" and i believe this.

I hope i didn't hurt you, don't forget i come in peace in this forum :D and i am a huge FAN of S&W.
Violence committed without guns is still violence, my friend. What is missing then, is self defense .
 
Hello StarmanFR and I'll ad my welcome from Central Texas!

An entertaining and informative post and it is appreciated very much. I was actually gratified to learn that you can, indeed, own handguns, and other firearms. The process is laborious but happily possible.

Obviously things are much different here but that is to be expected considering national sovereignty is at play. I had a Dutch friend who often visited me in Texas and he looked forward to nothing quite so much as shooting handguns at the ranch. It was something he simply found too difficult to indulge in at home. Glad you have a way.
 
"I am very pleased that France applies such a restrictive rule for anyone wishing to buy a weapon. It avoids a lot of problems, it avoids mass murders, and keeps anyone with a discreet criminal background away from buying a weapon. Of course a criminal can still buy a weapon on the black market (AK47 since the eastern countries) but it remains very very difficult.

Basically I think that these different measures avoid selling a weapon to a person who seems normal and without a criminal past BUT who could turn out to be mentally, politically or even religiously disturbed and become a murderer. The system is probably not perfect, but to date, I have never heard on the street or in the news of anyone using their personal weapons to kill people or to commit criminal acts."

Stay in France, we don't need that kind of thought here. I'm glad you like your Gov't controlling what we consider a God given right. Reference our Constitution.
 
So a nephew has gone to France for a year to teach, and has experienced French bureaucracy. For example, can't rent an apartment without a bank account (payment system for everything is automatic withdrawal) and can't get a bank account without a permanent address. There's a way out of the loop if somebody is willing to ignore/bend the laws.
 
"I am very pleased that France applies such a restrictive rule for anyone wishing to buy a weapon. It avoids a lot of problems, it avoids mass murders, and keeps anyone with a discreet criminal background away from buying a weapon. Of course a criminal can still buy a weapon on the black market (AK47 since the eastern countries) but it remains very very difficult.

Basically I think that these different measures avoid selling a weapon to a person who seems normal and without a criminal past BUT who could turn out to be mentally, politically or even religiously disturbed and become a murderer. The system is probably not perfect, but to date, I have never heard on the street or in the news of anyone using their personal weapons to kill people or to commit criminal acts."

Stay in France, we don't need that kind of thought here. I'm glad you like your Gov't controlling what we consider a God given right. Reference our Constitution.

This is someone who has fully embraced the anti gun cool aid. He is also a resident where the National Anthem is a call for the citizens to take up arms and defend their nation by making blood run like a river. It is also a nation where the citizens basically beheaded their government during the French Revolution. I haven't read their Constitution but I fully expect that within that Constitution there is a Right to Keep and Bear Arms. Note this particular right was first expressed in 1215 AD in the Magna Carta, a document that has provided a Foundation for many nation's Constitutions.
 
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