Beeman FWB 127 Deluxe reliability & accuracy

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Friend has a Beeman FWB 127 Deluxe air rifle available with the original box. Wood is nice with a deep glow to it. Has a Bushnell Sportview scope, it’s a variable but not sure what powers with some kind of target turrets. Has the original sights, hooded front and peep rear in the box.

Owner states he shot it maybe 40 times years ago and put it away. Has a bunch of pellets with it. Remains in excellent condition. Price is at 400.00 bucks.

Looking for information on reliability and accuracy, anyone have any experience with one. Larry
 
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I have two of these (actually mine are 124's, .177 version), they are nice. If it's in really nice shape the price is good. The peep sight could add value. If the piston seal is original, it will almost certainly need to be replaced. When the seal is being replaced, a general cleaning and lube should be done. Then it should be very reliable, and very accurate.
 
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Hi Larry,

That model Feinwerkbau is pretty decent, if you’re looking for a plinker-type backyard air rifle.
Being a break barrel springer, it’s not anywhere in the class of the FWB 300s, which has a fixed barrel, sidecocking lever, and match grade sights, stock & trigger.
The 124/127 are more on par with the similar German-made Diana air rifles.

The accuracy isn’t match grade, but it is still fine for general field use and fun. The trigger is more like a sport rifle than target rifle. Not much can be done with it in terms of adjustment. The single screw doesn’t affect much.
It purports to be a two stage trigger. To me, it feels long and mushy, with the second stage being a bit difficult to predict.

The 124/127 was sold by Beeman for about $200-250. For comparison, the 300/300s was about $700. More for the Tyrolean model with schuetzen style stock.
Of course, Beeman probably sold dozens of 124s or 127s for each 300!
In my opinion, you get what you pay for!

If it hasn’t been shot in years, you can count on having to do some servicing.
The piston seal is likely degraded. It might get you a bit of use before cracking, or it might already be toast. The rubber they used then dries out with age.
The real problem with that is, other things break if you keep trying to use it in that state.
Beeman printed an excellent service manual for the 124/127.
You will want that! (Cost about $15-20).
I’d recommend replacing the seal, just as an age related precaution. ($30-40)
Just as important is to get the Feinwerkbau “special grease”. Follow the instructions in the service manual.
I doubt you’ll need a new spring. They lose power and/or crack according to number of shots fired.
Be aware that disassembling a Feinwerkbau spring powered airgun requires precautions in dealing with that compressed spring. They pack a lot of power!
Some people find they need to use a fixture to help deal with the spring during disassembly.

There’s videos posted, and other online info, about disassembly and servicing.

If you choose to send it out for a routine maintenance, expect to pay at least an extra $100 over the cost of parts.

A close friend is the original owner of a 300s he bought new in 1982 or so. He uses it daily and is a very meticulous record keeper. He has, last I spoke with him, recorded well over 800,000 shots through his. I can ask him any day I like, and he can give me the precise number for that day. He does all his own servicing, too. He can tell me exactly what work he has done, on which date, and how much he has spent on parts.

PS: Is that Bushnell scope for airguns? Airgun recoil is tougher on scopes than generally known. In any case, I don’t think it adds any value to the gun itself.
 
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I have a formerly club owned FWB300S that I bought about 15 years ago for €50 and have shot a lot since then. The 300 had been one of the most common match airguns in Germany in the 1970s.

Larry, pass on the plinker and get a FWB 300S!
 
The 124 and 127 were the cream of the crop sporters in their day. They were never intended to be Olympic target guns, but shoot as well as most any sporter made today. I still have a 124 Deluxe I purchased new in the 70's. As mentioned above, the seal may need replaced, but it's not a terribly hard job. I replaced mine without a spring compressor.

That Bushnell Sportsview was rated for spring guns, or at least the original was, so it's probably fine.
 
When it comes to sporter air rifles, my choice is clearly the HW35E with the Rekord trigger.
I took the standard tangent rear sight off and put a HW match rear sight on that makes this a very nice rifle.
Still for accuracy and longevity the FWB 300S, developed out of the FWB 150, was long the standard all others were judged against.


 
I have a Diana 24 that I bought mainly for the grandkids to learn on and figured the FWB 124 would be a great upgrade for them. The Diana 24 has an ultra dot red dot on it rather than a scope. Just put the dot on a can and squeeze slowly. No searching for crosshairs.

If the FWB would be mainly for me I would buy a 300S. If I shoot in the back yard or basement it would be great practice with any mentioned here. You all have me thinking now about buying the 124 F, gonna call Pyramid Air and see what they would charge for putting in a seal. One video made the spring look challenging but I used to take cars apart when employed.

Since we are having a discussion, how do the RWS 24’s hold up? Got it at a local gun auction. Some good info here, thanks.

Here is a PM sent to me by a friend, he regularly attends the NE Ohio Bunch. Next one is April 26th. Larry

“Larry, 6string summed it up for you, there is an excellent repair guy named David Slade he was Beemans head gunsmith, I have had him do work for me in the past. I do recommended everything 6string said, but dont suggest you try it yourself. If you dont know what your doing you can ruin a excellent rifle.

My opinion is $400 is a little high considering the gunsmith tune job will cost about $200 also kept in mind if you send the rifle in for repair it will be a couple months. Dave Slade is the best. There is airgun show in Columbus in June he may be there.

If your going to pass on the rifle I would be interested.

See you next Saturday @ the club.”
 
Picked it up and it fires, fired one pellet from it and put it downstairs. Guess the piston seal is OK. Been busy, I think I’ll order the slightly reduced spring and seal. Need to make a spring compressor first. It has the metal trigger.

Tomorrow is the NE Ohio Bunch, ends up I have to open the doors for it. Maybe Sunday I’ll shoot a group or 2. It seems easier to cock than the RWS. Larry
 
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