Beretta 92fs vs Taurus PT92 af

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Can anyone give me an honest review or comparison of both? I have a surplus Italian LEO Beretta 92s. I'd like to upgrade to a 92fs or M9. But my LGS has a used Taurus 92af for $325 out the door. I'm wondering if I should get it or just be patient and hold out for Beretta, which I'm seeing here and there for around $450 used.
Also, do the Taurus and Beretta share any parts? Grips, magazines?

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If you already have a 92S, why would you consider “upgrading” it to a Taurus?
 
I've had both the Beretta 92fs and the Taurus PT92 during a buy/trade/sell phase we all go through. I've gone through the "just as good as at less $$$" phase too. Take my opinion for what it's worth. If you want a Beretta 90-series, be patient and buy a Beretta 90-series. If you buy a PT92, you'll never be happy.

When racking the slide of an out of the box Beretta 90-series, it feels like the slide is riding on buttered roller bearings. The Taurus PT92 isn't bad by any measure, but it does not have the buttered roller bearing feel that the Beretta has. The chrome lined barrel of the Beretta is far easier to clean than the Taurus.

The only feature the Taurus has over the Beretta is a frame mounted safety.
 
I'm biased, I don't like Taurus products. Be patient and get the Beretta.

I think the Taurus and the Beretta share magazines but I'm not sure what else.

I know that some Taurus 92s can be carried cocked and locked and have the safety on the frame.

Beretta 92s have a decocker and safety on the slide.

That's basically my knowledge of the differences between the two.
 
I’ve owned both in the past and never had problems with either one, albeit the Taurus was during the early-mid 90’s. Lots of reviews say they’re junk now but lots of others are happy campers. The Beretta is a quality build for sure. I personally prefer the decocker/safety on the frame where it belongs. Me personally, I wouldn’t have a problem buying either one.
 
One is a Beretta, building firearms since the 1500’s, the other a Taurus made in Brazil, a knock off of the classic Beretta. Really? Wait for the real deal, the original, Beretta.
 
I have owned both... the magazines are not the same... exact same shape & size but hole for the catch is different.. so if you want cheap & easy to find magazines go beretta... but to be honest I sold the Beretta... kept the Taurus... a model 99AF actually... adjustable sights... I had 2... gave one to a friend I have known since first grade... that was over 45 years ago...
 

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If you already have a 92S, why would you consider “upgrading” it to a Taurus?

The Taurus has a thumb safety like a 1911.
(Yay!)

I would't pick either one because they both are too fat for the small caliber, and for carrying around much, but if I had to pick an overly bulky gun, and those were my choices, I would go with the Taurus.
 
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I have the beretta 92S. Mine has been solid and purchased for a very reasonable price. That said the triggers are heavier than other berettas and mine shoots about 5” low. Never shot or held the Taurus but my friend swears by their version of the 92. Me personally doesn’t see the point in investing more money in the same platform for a brand/company that has questionable reviews and costs more than the model you currently own.


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Get the real-deal Beretta. You can find a used 92FS or M9 for not much more than the South American knock-off.

The Beretta will always be a Beretta, and the Taurus will always be not a Beretta.
 

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I say that if you want a Beretta, then accept no substitutes and get a Beretta. That being said, you already own a Beretta 92, and the 92FS really isn't all that different, so you might be disappointed if you save up for one then buy it only to find that out for yourself.

Here's what I would do, go into the gunshop and ask to see both the PT-92 and a Beretta 92FS/M9A1, (most gun shops have at least one 92FS/M9A1 in stock) then make note of the differences between your 92, the 92FS/M9A1, and the PT-92. You may be surprised to find that the 92FS isn't all that different from your current Beretta 92, and perhaps that the PT-92 has more features.
After that, should you find yourself leaning towards the PT-92, then function test it, if all goes well, politely ask permission to field-strip the PT-92 and examine the internals. The owner should give you the go ahead, but if not, then take that as a red flag, otherwise proceed to take it down and examine the internals, paying special attention to the locking block (which has sadly always been the Achilles' heel of the 92 design in general) to insure that there are no cracks in it. If all is well, then go ahead and buy it.

In my experience, as long as you function test Taurus Firearms before you buy them, then you're good to go. Between my family and I, there are 5 Taurus brand firearms in my household, all of which have been 100% reliable, but I won't deny that Taurus has spotty quality control, so if you're going to buy one, make sure you check it first.
That said, you should honestly function test ANY firearm before you purchase it, regardless of the brand, especially if it's used, but if there is anything worse than Taurus' QA, it's their Customer Service, so while other companies will typically make anything wrong with one of their problem firearms right quickly and easily, Taurus tends to overcomplicate the process. So if there's one company that you shouldn't neglect to function test, it's Taurus.

One is a Beretta, building firearms since the 1500’s, the other a Taurus made in Brazil, a knock off of the classic Beretta. Really? Wait for the real deal, the original, Beretta.

The Taurus PT-92 isn't a knock-off, it's a straight up copy of the original (Gen 1) Beretta 92 with upgrades. Taurus actually bought a Beretta factory in Brazil complete with all the tooling, workers, and blueprints, which included blueprints for the original Beretta 92. Beretta had already updated the 92 at the time (I believe the current model was the 92B) and the patent on the original had expired, so Taurus used it as the basis for the PT-92, but made some changes to update the design.
A lesser known fact is that many of the features on the modern Beretta 92A1 originated with the PT-92. (Combat Trigger Guard, Push Button Mag Release, Extended 17 Round Magazine, Reinforced Heavy Duty Slide, all were standard features on the Taurus before Beretta introduced the 92A1.)

So yeah, say what you will about Taurus and their quality control, but at least know what you're talking about before you go making ignorant statements about their firearms being knock-offs based purely on supposition.
 
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Thanks you all. Good feedback as always here.
A little more info - I like the 92s because it's a very soft shooter. Feels great in my hand after I put Lok thin grips on it. And like someone said previously, the action on the slide is smooth and easy like butter. I shoot it well despite the crappy sights. The reason I'd like to get a 92fs is for the better placement of the magazine release and taller, 3 dot sights. For me, that's an upgrade. And this is definitely not gonna be a carry gun. That's what my 9c is for.
I'll check out the Taurus hopefully tomorrow. Dry fire, field strip as always when I look at something at the gun shop. I'm a repeat customer and he always does right by me so I'm not worried about what he has for sale.

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I have the Taurus PT92 and I have had zero problems with it. Mine doesn't have the adjustable rear sights. Fast shooting magazine after magazine with no flaws. From what I read the Taurus 92 series is made in an old Beretta factory that Taurus bought and the guns are made on the same machines Beretta made their 92 series on.

I wasn't thrilled about buying a Taurus but after reading the reviews and comparisons of the 92 series I bought the Taurus. Some reviews stated the Taurus actually out performed the Beretta right out of the box. I bought my Taurus PT92 new for $350 and the Beretta sells for around $750.

I wanted a quality high capacity 9mm but didn't want to spend big bucks on it. I have not been disappointed with my Taurus. It's very accurate and most definitely dependable. Less than half the Beretta price but equal IMO quality is a no brainer.

I did a Durablu finish and put new grips on it. Looks an performs very well.
 

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It is not a knockoff.

Its not a Beretta, either.

If knockoff bothers everyone, we can go with “Third World Version, requiring close examination upon purchase due to poor quality control.”

I own a couple of Taurus revolvers. I’d never confuse them with Smith and Wessons.

To the OP - if the difference of $125 is within your budget, why not get a gun that will always be worth what you paid?
 
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If one has to do what amounts to a pre-purcahse cavity inspection to ensure it's not poop while issuing a warning about the manufacturers atrocious customer service, why take a chance in buying a product (and a used one at that!) that has a well earned legendary reputation for iffy products?

It IS a knock off. It's a cheaper i.e. less expensive version/clone/copy of the original.
 
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