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Somehow I managed to misplace (reads lost :o) my orienteering compass/inclinometer. So the search is on for a new one. I backpack in some pretty thick stuff and really need a good altimeter, to go along with it.

Suggestions ...???
 
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gizamo, I have three of the military lensatic compasses. I would teach my Scouts basic compass skills with a regular Silva liquid filled then as they got good with one I would switch them over to lensatics.
Of course I have been known to do compass courses with one of the check points under a metal high tension line tower. It was fun to watch them try to shoot a line from the tower and go every possible direction. Sometimes one of them would have a light bulb come on and do it correctly with a back azmuth.
Larry
 
Knifemaker Bob Loveless used to recommend the Brunton Pocket Transit

My best is a Silva Ranger, Type 15. But I think Suunto in Finland now also builds most of the Silva line, which used to be Swedish. Suunto's own line are also very good.

I have two Swiss-made Rectas. One is in a little ruler that goes in a pocket on the fine leather SOS kit from Victorinox, with a SwissChamp knife. The other is a sliding box type with a mirror that drops down. Recta seems on par with Silva.

I have never used an inclinometer or altimeter, so can't comment. But Loveless liked the big, heavy Brunton for the inclinometer. I had one of those Bruntons, but it got away somehow, I think in my last move.
 
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Your query prompted me to have a look at the compasses in my hunting daypack... They are a simple Silva Landmark model, with a sighting mirror and rudimentary baseplate with scales, and a now-no-longer offered Silva Model 80 bearing compass that permits a quite precise azimuth, (Bruunton offers an equivalent...), which shows both bearing and its reciprocal on the same view --- very handy when wayfinding in big country such as here "out west", and especially helpful to shoot bearings to find game downed at extreme ranges in open country, probably of little use in big woods. My inclinometer, also Bruunton, I think, is in the lockbox in my truck, and I'm too lazy to get at it, but it is not something I use for navigation, only for measuring the heights of objects, and that of course, requires precise measurement of the base of a right triangle along the ground, and that requires a laser range finder or better yet, a steel tape measure. My altimeter is an older, electronic-display version of an aneroid barometer, once offered by Peet Bros., who seem to have now dropped their line of handheld altimeters, probably because of the prevalence of handheld GPS devices, which, in my experience, are seldom, if ever, very accurate in terms of elevation. My altimeter once played a critical role in establishing our party's position on a wilderness river trip, where, in mountainous canyon country, observation of definitive landmarks for triangulation wasn't feasible, but the ability to determine quite precisely our elevation, and where it's contour line intersected the river on a topo map, gave us a very high confidence position fix. In any case, it may be worthwhile to learn of any magnetic anomalies, such as are common in Michigan's Upper Peninsula, and I've found, north of McNary, AZ, where magnetic compasses can go haywire ...
 
Ok, fine, I collect compasses too.

Hands down without a doubt choice would be a GI issue lensatic with tritium dials and hands. (if you can work in mils)
I used a Recta box type when orienteering, and taught the Scouts with a Silva. (I have about 40 of them in a box somewhere)
I never had use for an inclometer.
 
Very interesting query, gizamo. I'd love to see photos of the compasses you guys have.
 
Until I got spoiled on GPS', I used a surplus M2 compass graduated in degrees. A lot of them were made by Brunton, and I sent mine to them for a rebuild.
 
I have a couple of Silva Ranger's. The older ones with the aluminum dial. The new ones are good too. I carry a GPS but with a compass you don't have to wait for satellites to come up.

After tomorrow all that will work is a good compass, unless the earth's axis shifts. Oh wait maybe we are all going to die! Or whatever is suppose to happen!

John
 
I have always liked the GI compass. Everything I needed, nothing I didn't. I proved long ago they work very well. I was fortunate also by being able to pace 36" as my norm when I was a young bull. Of course that varies with terrain and impediments, but you learn to compensate the guesstimate.

I've had several of them. Decades ago, it was very hard to get one that wasn't much used, and they were still expensive. Been decades since I bought my first ones, but I think I was paying $35-40 for them in the 70s!
As time went on, they got cheaper and easier to get.

Watch out- I can't remember which manufacturer it was, but one name would get very sticky as they got really old. Make sure they turn freely.
As I came across better condition, I upgraded.
First pic is lightly used, second one I bought NIB.
It is the only one I had ever seen in a box. The Instruction sheet with the first one is the first Instruction sheet I had ever seen. We never had them when I was in. ;)
 

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I moved up to a GI M-2 in about 1988 (mine is phosphus not tritium) and always tied it to me! One day driving home from a 2 day trip in a state forrest. My best friend and I stopped by a surplus store. In the counter they had "Commerical" M-2's for about $60-65, these were thin plastic chinese pieces of green junk! I ask where the real M-2's were, and both of us pulled ours out, he tried to buy ours, then tried to sell us some sort of artillery coumpass for well over a $100. My best friend was an arty surveyer, laughed at him and said you couldn't navigate with that, as it was only about 1/4 there! Let the buyer beware! Ivan
 
Another vote for the Brunton Pocket Transit, or Hand Transit as they were sometimes called at the time I got mine. I've had this one (made and sold under license by Keuffel and Esser, now defunct) for over 40 years. It's overkill for hiking and simple orientation, but if you ever needed to survey a mountain range and find yourself in it at the same time, this is your machine.

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Every field geologist in America has one of these in his pocket. Or should.

I think it is probably correct that a basic military compass is all you need to move around without getting lost, but on the principle that way too much is barely enough, I'd rather lug one of these around. You never know when you might want to calculate the height of a peak 8-10 miles away relative to your current elevation. Do that without a clinometer! :D

Well, OK, you could use your Smartphone if you remembered to charge your battery before setting out.
 
Never buy a Tate. The needle loses it's magnetic field leading to one becoming totally disoriented.

"He who has a Tate's is lost."

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I learned to use a compass in the Scouts and then came to totally trust the military issued compass when I was a Forward Observer in the Army. Today I own one of the Recta box compasses and several Army lensatic compasses. Though the Recta is a neat tool, I would still stake my life on the GI lensatic compass.

Charlie
 
Ok, fine, I collect compasses too.

Hands down without a doubt choice would be a GI issue lensatic with tritium dials and hands. (if you can work in mils)
I used a Recta box type when orienteering, and taught the Scouts with a Silva. (I have about 40 of them in a box somewhere)
I never had use for an inclometer.

Agree. The tritium G.I. lensatic is excellent. I have a Silva that I bought while I was Boy Scout, ca. 1970. It is still very functional.
 
Ok, fine, I collect compasses too.

Hands down without a doubt choice would be a GI issue lensatic with tritium dials and hands. (if you can work in mils)

Every GI lensatic compass I have ever been issued was in degrees. The Artillery units issued M2 compass/pocket transit marked in mills. The M2 was also available in degrees but was rare to see one.
 
Every GI lensatic compass I have ever been issued was in degrees. The Artillery units issued M2 compass/pocket transit marked in mills. The M2 was also available in degrees but was rare to see one.

When I had my M2 refurbished by Brunton, they asked me if I wanted it done in mils or degrees. Since I didn't have any plans to buy a 105mm or a 155mm howitzer, I chose degrees.

:D :D :D
 
Here's a few;

Starting clockwise in the upper left hand corner

Brunton pocket transit
WWII Japanese desk compass, circa 1940. Cased in bamboo.
Modern BSA field compass
Mid 80's issue GI Lensatic in degrees.
WWI USA field compass, circa 1916
WWII German artillery compass, in mils
Recta Swiss Army box compass.

Just for fun. I thought Giz and you guys would like seeing some old ones.:D
 

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Every GI lensatic compass I have ever been issued was in degrees. The Artillery units issued M2 compass/pocket transit marked in mills. The M2 was also available in degrees but was rare to see one.

What I should have said was be careful in buying one surplus. There are M2's out there that are graduated in mils. They show up with regularity on the surplus market as very few people can actually use one.
 
I have a Military compass...the thing has a Ra228 (Radium?) sign on it, must be old. I am kinda afraid to get close to it. If anyone has info on said compass let me know.
 
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