Best description of 2020 Ammo Situation

[Racer X]

You need to add the correct choice to your poll: a great year for bullet casting.

completely useless unless you have a LARGE stash of primers, or shoot black powder.

 

[Sevens]

completely useless unless you have a LARGE stash of primers, or shoot black powder.

You are really, really wrong here. Someone casting bullets in volume right now could sell them for serious jack. Bullets are following primers in scarcity right now.

 

[Erocksmash]

Let us not forget powders, tho very small amounts of certain things left in stock the majority is poof... I would also like to add brass cases poof as well...

Ammo tho found at a premium the components to make a few and far between....

 

[sigp220.45]

Its happened before, its happening now, and it will happen again.

It is just all the Chicken Littles. When in danger, when in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout.

Unless it can be done with an Executive Order, it ain't gonna happen. The Senate will be where antigun legislation goes to die. (Even if both seats in Georgia go blue).

A guy on Facebook just posted he paid $213 for 200 rounds of .38 Special range ammo. He didn't want to shoot his good bullets.

Toilet paper came back. So will ammo.

 

[bushmaster1313]

It's a panic.........Ben

My thoughts:

Not a "Crisis" because in the short term this is not a very bad thing.

Not a "Rush" as that implies people rushing to good thing.

Not a "Shortage" as there is plenty of ammo, but at high prices.

Not a "Panic." Rather, panic is the cause.

So to me, many are panicking, leading to a "run."

 

[CGhelofxr]

I voted panic....a dumpster fire option should have been added��

 

[oysterer]

I voted Panic.

I do not look for ammo but for Primers we are beyond Panic! It is a big Cluster.

 

[Ruger Nut]

Isn't it strange how BIG BROTHER is always punishing law abiding citizens for what the criminals do? Mark my words, when BIG BROTHER makes it to where law abiding citizens won't be able to afford firearms and ammo, the criminals will keep breaking the law. And, BIG BROTHER will be scratching their heads wondering why their laws aren't/didn't work. What will they do then?

 

[Muss Muggins]

My thoughts:

. . .

Not a "Panic." Rather, panic is the cause.

So to me, many are panicking, leading to a "run."

I voted "panic," because that is the situation. The "panic" causes a "run," which in turn causes more "panic." The "run" will end, and all that remains will be "panic."

 

[comfortsource]

I too voted "panic". As a novice reloader and "not at the range as much as I should be" person, I have plenty of ammo to last through this "season". However, as said before, there seems to be plenty of ammo around, if a person can/or is willing to look.

the point and click crowd is driving this insane surge of panic buying.

It's good to be in the heartland.

J

 

[bushmaster1313]

I too voted "panic". . .

the point and click crowd is driving this insane surge of panic buying.

J

OP here.

Yesterday I almost made a "panic" purchase of my favorite 00 buckshot (reduced recoil Fiocchi 12LE00BK). I had not seen any for sale online for quite awhile, but recently it has shown up for $275 plus shipping for 250 rounds. This is double the going price before March—and I have enough already—but merely seeing it for sale almost prompted me into a "panic" purchase.

 

[glenwolde]

I think it's a combination of a panic and a shortage.

 

[typetwelve]

Yet another panic...same thing, different time. No different than idiots out hoarding toilet paper YET AGAIN...

I don't understand it and never will...people do this, it causes a total disruption in the supply chain, prices skyrocket...and it takes years to settle down. Over and over, time and time again. All it does it make thing difficult and expensive. Super frustrating.

 

[PatriotX]

Isn't it strange how BIG BROTHER is always punishing law abiding citizens for what the criminals do? Mark my words, when BIG BROTHER makes it to where law abiding citizens won't be able to afford firearms and ammo, the criminals will keep breaking the law. And, BIG BROTHER will be scratching their heads wondering why their laws aren't/didn't work. What will they do then?

Please explain how BB is making people pay excessive prices?

How is BB involved in encouraging more to arm themselves?

Is BB shill bidding on gunbroker? Because that, I'd believe....

 

[PatriotX]

1)This is an emotional crisis, people feel helpless.

2)TP and ammo are real, tangible things with value beyond the dollar amount.

3)Surrounding one's self with tangible things that are of perceived value/use feels like progress is made.

Add those together and you have the makings of a supply chain disruption. Remember, warehousing is expensive. Any demand beyond the usual [plus a factor] is unable to be absorbed by a just-in-time production system.

 

[scoobysnacker]

completely useless unless you have a LARGE stash of primers, or shoot black powder.

I'm glad someone else has said this.

I don't reload (yet), but the last time I looked, I saw 1 case of CCI #34 primers, open and being sold by 100 ct cards instead of as a full case. They have been the only primers I've seen, and they seemed a bit high ($6 per 100). As I understand, those are good for rifle only, and really large rifle at that (so, 308 etc).

So right now, unless you have a line on some new primers, there's not a lot of practical difference between having 10k of loaded ammo, and being a reloader with 10k of primers. Your components cost less most likely, but your reloading gear and time involved gets added into the mix. And either way, you're looking at having a max of 10k available rds, while waiting on what the future brings.

Like I said, I don't reload. I have stocks of loaded ammo, a fair bit in surplus or steel with berdan primers. Some of that was pretty cheap, and my range doesn't care if I have steel case.

 

[PPS1980]

Please excuse a suspicious old cop but part of me wonders if this "shortage" might be engineered by the gun grabbers.

You mean like back when Federal Agencies had priority orders in for millions more rounds than they could possibly use?

 

[wetdog1911]

In one word? Predictable!

YES!!

As a SoFl native and living there for 58 years, this is SO similar to recent transplants that think it's a good idea to start hurricane preps AFTER the storm flags are already flying when nothing is available, or, extremely expensive.

It's very hard to feel sorry for willful ignorance, or the "It can't happen here", mindset. Especially when it has happened over and over again. Both hurricanes and ammo shortages.

Ya just can't fix stupid!

Rob

 

[tazaroot]

The run on ammo is about as stupid as the run on toilet paper when the whole COVID thing started back in March.

 

[chief38]

After going through many of these ammo shortages (crisis) over the past 20 years I'm fairly well stocked up and my shooting hobby has not and will not change in the years to come.

My Motto:

Previous Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance.

I would think that most of the seasoned guys here are also well prepared.