BILL SIGNED!Well a bill barely passed the Florida Senate// UPDATE

[Rule3]

In a knee jerk reaction the bill passed.

What I find nauseating about it is this quote:

Pretty much Hurry we must do something!!
They are not done yet, the children are leading the Nation!
We shall see what the House does, better session ends Friday!

"Do I think this bill goes far enough? No! No, I don't!" said Democratic Sen. Lauren Book, who tearfully described visiting Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School after 17 people were fatally shot on Valentine's Day. She also would have liked a ban on assault-style rifles, like many of the students who traveled to the state Capitol to ask lawmakers to go even further to stop future mass shootings. But Book said she couldn't let the legislative session end Friday without doing something."

Florida Senate passes bill to put restrictions on gun sales

 

[500SNW]

She also would have liked a ban on assault-style rifles, like many of the students who traveled to the state Capitol to ask lawmakers to go even further to stop future mass shootings.

They know it won't work. Ban further sales of "assault weapons" and the shootings will continue. Then they'll say "see...we need to do even more."

 

[Rule3]

They know it won't work. Ban further sales of "assault weapons" and the shootings will continue. Then they'll say "see...we need to do even more."

You got that right!

Now this of course is not "gun control" this is a "School Safety Bill"

Quote

"This bill will make a difference now. When it becomes law, things will start changing," Galvano said. "We listened and we're trying. We're trying hard, we don't have all the answers but we are giving it our best and we will keep giving it our best."

Note also, that this is "not the "legislation the "students" demanded and fought for" They "demanded a ban on assault weapons"

Again the students are leading the Country

So they want you to be 21 to buy a rifle. How about you have to be 21 to Vote and "demand legislation"??

Oh, that's different!

 

[TomkinsSP]

Since passing a law magically makes everyone obey the law and makes the now illegal act a thing which is never again performed...

Maybe they could just pass a law against killing people. For any reason, and with any weapon, or even none at all.

I really just can't believe nobody has thought of that yet!

 

[TomkinsSP]

...Again the students are leading the Country...

Meanwhile at County General Hospital...

Students are leading the country. All Medical Staff with degrees have been dismissed. Initially AP Honor Students were assigned as Surgeons, and.those Students with 3.0 to 4.0 GPAs being assigned as Physicians. But those with lower GPAs pointed out this was Elitist, and that window washers were just as important as Brain Surgeons and now jobs are assigned in a random order...

And at the International Airport...

Students are leading the nation sending Pilots and Air Traffic Controllers home. Student Spokesperson Ima Maroon said "the old system was just so militaristic man, people giving orders telling other people what to do, no way, we just say the sky is free, do your own thing up there. Cool."

Gee, kinda sounds like a short story by Pasternak...

 

[500SNW]

Funny how methamphetamine, carfentanil and cocaine have been banned all along...yet anybody who has the cash can easily buy them without meeting the many 4473 qualifications, nor a background check or a permit. At present, illegal street drugs...most of which are smuggled in from other countries... are easier to buy than guns.

 

[italiansport]

keep one thing firmly in mind here:
The anti's ultimate goal is confiscation of all privately owned weapons.
The know very well that these "measures" they advocate won't accomplish anything in reducing crime but they'll take whatever they can get in their quest for a total ban on privately owned firearms.
Jim

 

[sigp220.45]

"This is the first step in saying never again."

"We must be the last families to lose loved ones in a mass shooting at a school."

I wish people would just stop saying dumb stuff like this. Its the same thing after every one of these awful events.

There will be another school shooting. There will be more families to lose loved ones.

Setting impossible goals serves no purpose.

In this case everyone who had a chance to stop this thing blew it. The cops, my former employer the FBI, everyone. People saw something and they said something, and nobody did anything.

Meanwhile, other cops and agents in other places are doing the right thing and stopping other school shootings. You won't hear about those.

But then somebody else will drop the ball or someone will stay off the radar, and we'll have another one.

And we'll do this all again.

 

[Bronco89]

You got that right!

Now this of course is not "gun control" this is a "School Safety Bill"

Quote

"This bill will make a difference now. When it becomes law, things will start changing," Galvano said. "We listened and we're trying. We're trying hard, we don't have all the answers but we are giving it our best and we will keep giving it our best."

Note also, that this is "not the "legislation the "students" demanded and fought for" They "demanded a ban on assault weapons"

Again the students are leading the Country

So they want you to be 21 to buy a rifle. How about you have to be 21 to Vote and "demand legislation"??

Oh, that's different!

21 to vote? I like that idea.

 

[500SNW]

We are all just going to have to accept that this is the price of freedom...and the reason why there are no school shootings in China or Venezuela or wherever. "Freedom is never free" as the saying goes. School shootings are a fact of life in present day America...a country of 300 million people with a right to keep and bear arms. Get used to it. .

 

[M29since14]

Meanwhile at County General Hospital...

Students are leading the country...

Now TomkinsSP, just a minute! Do you see much potential difference in ability between high school students and the current crop of legislators, wherever you happen to find them? Some HS students I have known could probably do a lot better job - at least for a little while.

(Maybe not so much so for switching them out with brain surgeons and airplane drivers. )

 

[pharmer]

In this case everyone who had a chance to stop this thing blew it. The cops, my former employer the FBI, everyone. People saw something and they said something, and nobody did anything.

And this happens more often than not, which is the major part of the problem. Joe

 

[TomkinsSP]

...Some HS students I have known could probably do a lot better job - at least for a little while...

Be hard for them to do worse.

 

[hoc9sw]

...

But then somebody else will drop the ball or someone will stay off the radar, and we'll have another one.

And we'll do this all again.

Isn't that the law of natural selection? We have to be perfect 100% of the time. They only have to get it right once.

As to passage of that bill? What scares me is "it barely PASSED" - I would feel better if it had barely lived long enough to die in committee.

Remember, one chip / cut at a time.

 

[WCCPHD]

Always remember: Gun control has NOTHING to do with guns

Its about CONTROL.

 

[Rule3]

Well it is going to the Governor for his decision.

The only real "gun control" is raising the age for all guns to 21 and a 3 day wait. Again it is not "gun control" it is a school safety act.

The rest is all MONEY!

Having worked for the State I know how they like to trow money at any and all situations. The bill (you can read it all below) spends a lot of money to create yet another level of bureaucracy and I doubt will accomplish anything.

How much of the funding goes to just setting up and administering the programs?
Sure, I am all in favor of dollars spent on Mental Health and more funds to DCF but how does that relate to seeking out some crazy person before hand?? Kinda like predicting who the next serial killer or terrorist will be.

Those who need mental health are not going to seek it out on their own.
IMHO I do not think teachers should have to be armed. It's not their job.

The bill says must be 21 to BUY a rifle, what about possession??
How would this have prevented anything?? The shooter had the rifles well before any 3 day wait.

This bill is a knee jerk reaction to just do something/anything in a short space of time.

How can it be well thought out, given the time frame from the shooting until today??

It's a football for the Governor. If he vetoes it, he will look like he is not taking action (he doesn't agree with arming teachers)

If he signs it, it is a bad bill as it is not well constructed.

Press Release - The Florida Senate



Funding
The legislation appropriates $400 million to implement the bill provisions, including the following:

• Over $69 million to the DOE to fund the mental health assistance allocation.
• $1 million for the design and construction of a memorial honoring those who lost their lives on February 14, 2018, at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School.
• Over $25 million for replacing building 12 at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School.
• Over $67 million for sheriff’s offices who decide to establish a school guardian program.
• Over $97 million to aid for the safe schools allocation.
• Over $98 million to implement a grant program for improving and hardening the physical security of school buildings.
• $18.3 million to DCF for additional mobile crisis teams to ensure reasonable access among all counties.

 

[cybermgk]

Emotional driven thought, without even the leavening of age and experience. YEP, that's how we should decide things.

 

[Watchdog]

21 to vote? I like that idea.

Prior to 1971, that was the law of the land. Then came the 26th Amendment to the Constitution, giving 18-year-olds the right to vote.

It came about mostly as a result of the Vietnam War, when the whole old-enough-to-fight-old-enough-to-vote concept really took hold.

In July of '71, Nixon signed it into law.

 

[hoc9sw]

And here is how "barely passed" becomes a disaster.

I don't see any use for "bump stocks", but this law, if signed, would make it illegal to possess one, even if legally purchased before the law goes into effect. Understand that my concern is that they simply become illegal. No apparent provisions to deal with that. If they can pull off a restriction like that in one state, it is more than a chip in the wall or one cut of a thousand. What common item or firearm will be next?

The Governor needs to veto this.

 

[Rule3]

And here is how "barely passed" becomes a disaster.

I don't see any use for "bump stocks", but this law, if signed, would make it illegal to possess one, even if legally purchased before the law goes into effect. Understand that my concern is that they simply become illegal. No apparent provisions to deal with that. If they can pull off a restriction like that in one state, it is more than a chip in the wall or one cut of a thousand. What common item or firearm will be next?

The Governor needs to veto this.

Yes, if the "act" passes get ready for age changes to begin in other States.

A House of Cards

But the Gov is damned if he does or doesn't.