cmort666
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How DARE you place a property owner's rights over the desires of others!
I'll bet you took the side of the Akron pizza shop owner instead of that of the shotgun wielding robber whom he recently shot and killed!
Blinking neighbors cats
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I'll bet you took the side of the Akron pizza shop owner instead of that of the shotgun wielding robber whom he recently shot and killed!
I've tried to stay out of this, but that did it! I cannot count the times I've been planting flowers only to dig into a pile of covered over cat dung. Then there was the time a cat spending the night on the roof of our new car threw up all over the roof and damaged the paint. Then there was the time one crawled in an open window of a car and damaged the upholstery. Then there are the song birds they kill in our yard. I could go on, but let me assure you that I CAN IMAGINE from personal experience a lot of problems caused by other people's cats! Grrr..........
rburg
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I like most cats and dogs better than most people. I like almost all of them better than some neighbors. Specifically, I like Squeeky the cat better than a dirt bag neighbor who would shoot at him. It helps to have a reputation for being unstable when it comes to those who would do harm to my critters.
Indiana George
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City boy ain't ya? !!!
cmort666
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Then you wouldn't mind if somebody poured brake fluid on the roof of yours...
Folterung
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cmort666.....hmmmmmm, and I thought this was a troll free message board.
Folterung
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Not you Sasu...cmort666.
Cats are very territorial animals. It's in their DNA. I've had several over my life. Some loved being indoors and never really wanted to go outside. Most wanted to go outside. Not because they were bad, evil, and bent on destroying property - but because they are territorial animals and they want to patrol the area they consider to be home. To that extent, they are not really domesticated.
A friend's cat is a huge shaggy grey and white cat who roams the entire neighborhood. He is friendly, and kills lots of mice and voles. Does he pee on an occasional flower bed? I'm sure he does. Does he kill the occasional song bird? I am sure he does.
He's an effing cat. That is what they do. If you were to try to keep him inside, he would become neurotic (or probably sponaneously combust).
I have never understood the irrational hatred some people have for cats. It is so out of perspective. The glee with which they relate what they would like to do to those animals is disturbing. I have had and have loved both dogs and cats. Each has their drawbacks, and those drawbacks are in their DNA.
A friend's cat is a huge shaggy grey and white cat who roams the entire neighborhood. He is friendly, and kills lots of mice and voles. Does he pee on an occasional flower bed? I'm sure he does. Does he kill the occasional song bird? I am sure he does.
He's an effing cat. That is what they do. If you were to try to keep him inside, he would become neurotic (or probably sponaneously combust).
I have never understood the irrational hatred some people have for cats. It is so out of perspective. The glee with which they relate what they would like to do to those animals is disturbing. I have had and have loved both dogs and cats. Each has their drawbacks, and those drawbacks are in their DNA.
Folterung
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I just had a feral cat give birth to five kittens under a lumber pile in my backyard...
She feeds on the baby rabbits; I want to eventually take them to a no-kill shelter.
She feeds on the baby rabbits; I want to eventually take them to a no-kill shelter.
cmort666
Member
Not on MY property... which you appear unable to distinguish from your property.
I wonder what you would do if I insisted on dumping my garbage on your property. Hey, it's "what I do"...
cmort666
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If you want to practice socialism, do so with your friends and THEIR property. You don't have the right to use my property as a latrine for your animals.
Don't forget that a cat is not a rational animal with the power of language. You are a rational animal with the power of language. Asking a cat not to go to the bathroom when it has to (and at least it covers it up, for Pete's sake) is just not going to work. It is not the same thing as you INTENTIONALLY dumping trash in someone else's yard. You know what you are doing and what the ramifications are. A cat may LOOK like he knows that what he's doing is going to tick you off, but of course he has no such idea.
I just don't equate a few small pieces of cat feces, dropped on occasion in someone's yard by an animal incapable of understanding whether that is right or wrong, with a barrel full of garbage intentionally dumped by a human being.
Again, I understand property rights, and I'm not trying to set you or anyone else off. I'm just saying that you have to work within the confines of what an animal is capable of understanding.
Saying that I'm practicing socialism because my cat roams over to your property and pees on a bush? That's a stretch.
I mean, if I took my herd of cows, snipped your barbed wire fence, and let them eat your front yard because "you have so much more yard than I have, and, you know, my cows are hungry," well, OK, I can see that as socialism.
But not being able to control a cat who roams the neighborhood, eats rats and mice, and every once and a while buries a three inch turd in your flower bed - I just don't think you should assign me a hammer and sickle over that.
Dick, I spend thousands of dollars per year, and invest hundreds of hours planting and nurturing food plots and habitat for quail. When I see cats stalking birds and rabbits in the middle of my 70 or so acres, I am going to drop the hammer of whatever firearm I happen to have with me at the time on the critter. It is usually a S&W .38 or a 12 gauge shotgun. These cats may or may not be from the neighbor's herd of yard cats. I imagine most of them get a meal there occasionally. I'm not going to shoot someone's pet on purpose, but if a pet cat happens to be stalking my quail or rabbits, in the middle of my property, then he/she has had it. Do you live in the country? If you do, you must know what a problem feral cats are. There are a couple of dumpsters within a mile or so of my place, and it isn't uncommon to see an abandoned litter that has been dropped off there. I see them there three or four times a year. These cats are usually so wild that there is no such thing as catching them. They wind up in the woods. I would guess that feral cats are behind only snakes as the predators that take the most quail. Snakes get the eggs. Cats get the chicks and grown birds.
Lizardman_u
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What I did to handle the animal problem (both other people's cats and dogs, the occasional skunk) was to set a physical boundary around my property (6 foot chain link fence on both sides and in the back, 4 foot chain link fence on the front) to make it obvious where my privately owned property exists. This also is great for keeping my dog on my property as I am responsible for his actions and if he were to get on someone else's property and they were to shoot my dog it would be my responsibilty.
Second I got a have a heart trap to catch cats, then I take the cats around the neighborhood to find the owners and return the cats with a warning that if I catch their cat again I would turn it over to animal control or a shelter with no further word to them as ultimately they are responsible for their animals behavior and whereabouts as I am responsible to keep my dog healthy and in my yard or on a leash.
the third and final step would be to use dye in a hose to discolor the animal so that the 'pet' owner knew their animal was somewhere they shouldn't be if I can't trap it. food coloring, kool-aid, water color paints are nice safe ways to dye things without any chance of harming the animal
Dave
Second I got a have a heart trap to catch cats, then I take the cats around the neighborhood to find the owners and return the cats with a warning that if I catch their cat again I would turn it over to animal control or a shelter with no further word to them as ultimately they are responsible for their animals behavior and whereabouts as I am responsible to keep my dog healthy and in my yard or on a leash.
the third and final step would be to use dye in a hose to discolor the animal so that the 'pet' owner knew their animal was somewhere they shouldn't be if I can't trap it. food coloring, kool-aid, water color paints are nice safe ways to dye things without any chance of harming the animal
Dave
cmort666
Member
No, but allegedly you are.
The cat has no responsibility. YOU do. I simply don't want to hear that you can't control your animals, be they cats or yaks. If you don't control them and they damage my property, I'm going to make it VERY expensive for you to keep those animals, probably TOO expensive.
If you reserve the "right" to use my property as an animal latrine over and over, I reserve the right to take you to small claims court over and over. If you don't get the message from that, then we move to big kids court where things get REALLY expensive.
dlstewart01
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I don't believe this is really about cats anymore, but rather somesones ego and controling other people.
Just my opinion
Just my opinion
cmort666
Member
It's never been about anything except people inflicting their animals (and themselves) upon unwilling victims.
One more time:
Keep YOUR animals on YOUR property, ESPECIALLY when others tell you to keep them off of THEIRS.
Everybody doesn't love YOUR animals.
Believe it or not, many people have absolutely NO desire to clean up after YOUR animals on THEIR property when YOU won't.
The entire world is NOT your property. You do NOT have the right to do with OTHER people's property as you see fit. If you TRY, they are apt to punish you for it.
"Explaining" to other people why they should not have control over their own property, and that YOU should is highly unlikely to be met with a favorable response.
If you want to practice socialist land redistribution, do so with your friends.
Bad behavior has consequences. An arrogant insistence upon despoiling other people's property merely because you think you can is bad behavior. The courts provide remedies to such bad behavior. Control your animals or I'll use the courts to control YOU.
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YOUR quail and rabbits?
Did you purchase and stock the property with them? If not, they are wild and are property of the STATE, your delusions to the contrary notwithstanding.
So, you are killing animals you know full well may be pets for the "crime" of being part of the natural cycle. You must be so proud.
