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Hi,

I purchased a bodyguard 2.0 over the weekend and have run into a pretty serious (in my opinion) issue. I got the thumb safety option and at first it was super stiff which I know is a common complaint so I didn't think anything of it. I put about 250 rounds through it and spent a couple days flicking the safety on and off to loosen it up.

Unfortunately I noticed that now it is way TOO loose. The safety wiggles a bit even when it's in the up position and while it can't fire when it's all the way up, even the slightest movement downward will allow it to fully fire. This is before the audible and felt click when it is switched off.

Is there a way I can tighten this thumb safety up without having to send it in? I'm pretty sure it's an issue with the thumb safety spring but this gun is so small I'm afraid I'll damage it if I try to fix this myself.

Anybody else seen this issue?

Update - I am sending this in to S&W and will provide an update when I hear more. I don't want to blame them for this right now, I don't know if this issue was caused during transit (I bought it from Academy) or happened at the store or what.
 
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GnarlsR2 said:
After 173 years of manufacturing world class firearms Smith & Wesson should be the premier designer and manufacturer of top quality innovative firearms. Or am I wanting too much in 2025. :(
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With today workforce mindset (I am just here to collect a check)
what you are wanting will be hard to come by.
 
While this isn't a common complaint (or a well-known failure), it is yet another black mark against S&W and its QC, especially on this particular firearm.

What's next? A slide that flies off?


On the other hand, my recent purchase of the 442-1 reveals it to be a superb firearm, as was my PC Shield in 9mm some years back. I just don't get what the h*** is going on here!
 
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ImDrRich said:
While this isn't a common complaint (or a well-known failure), it is yet another black mark against S&W and its QC, especially on this particular firearm.

What's next? A slide that flies off?


On the other hand, my recent purchase of the 442-1 reveals it to be a superb firearm, as was my PC Shield in 9mm some years back. I just don't get what the h*** is going on here!
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In total agreement...my Shield, my Shield Plus (2 of them) and my CSX E series have all been perfect with no failures of any type and no misaligned parts......so yes ... a good question ... what the heck happens there that causes these problems ?
 
Man, I am a HUGE fan of the M&P line. Full size, compact, subcompact, Compact 3.6", 9MM, .45, and .380 in the M&P Bodyguard 1.0. I kept going back and forth with replacing the BG 1.0 with the 2.0.

I've fired nothing other than 50 rounds of Winchester White Box .380 and probably 500 rounds of my own reloads. Never one malfunction. Long trigger, sure, but at 7 yards the group would fit in a paper plate rapid firing. Good enough for what that gun is made for. Belly gun up close range I would ever have to shoot this gun, the target is gonna be way closer than 7 yards.

I'm sticking with the 1.0 for now. The day I thought about buying the BG 2.0, I walked out with a Beretta Cheetah 80X instead. Smooth as silk and screams class and style.
 
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I currently have the LCP Max and am considering moving to the Bodyguard 2.0 for the slightly longer grip. Generally I like waiting about a year so the manufacture and go through their growing and perfect the gun especially if I'm going to use it as an EDC. The Max had its issues when it first came out but everything has been fixed. My only problem is I like the holsters made by Urban Carry and right now they don't have one for the Bodyguard.
 
Mr500cm said:
I currently have the LCP Max and am considering moving to the Bodyguard 2.0 for the slightly longer grip. Generally I like waiting about a year so the manufacture and go through their growing and perfect the gun especially if I'm going to use it as an EDC. The Max had its issues when it first came out but everything has been fixed. My only problem is I like the holsters made by Urban Carry and right now they don't have one for the Bodyguard.
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Urban Carry Locking Leather holsters are just great! Unfortunately, their customer support says they will not be out until 2026!
 
Update - I am sending this in to S&W and will provide an update when I hear more. I am hesitant to blame them for this right now, I don't know if this issue was caused during transit (I bought it from Academy) or happened at the store or what. Anyways, I'll post more when I hear back!
 
Smokinjoe0311 said:
Update - I am sending this in to S&W and will provide an update when I hear more. I am hesitant to blame them for this right now, I don't know if this issue was caused during transit (I bought it from Academy) or happened at the store or what. Anyways, I'll post more when I hear back!
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I think holding off judgement is good, this one is a bit odd. The same style safety is on the shield line if I understand correctly so that's one part that probably has a solid track record. Only complaint I had heard was it was too stiff but loosened up with a bit of oil and repetitions. I'd bet this is not part of the usual list of issues.
 
dben002 said:
...Then they need a new VP in charge of QC.
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You assume they have one now?

Smokinjoe0311 said:
... I am hesitant to blame them for this right now...
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S&W loves you as a customer! Safety works out of the box, but after a few boxes of ammo it stops working, yet you are hesitant to blame them for a substandard firearm.

Can I sell you a car?
 
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Speaking of "safety failure"….

I would very much like to be in the same camp as those who have had great experiences with the BG2.

One other issue that I find bothersome is the trigger safety. The flat trigger blade (wider than the trigger and has sharp edges) must be fully compressed against the trigger to prevent the little tab that is designed to prevent the trigger from being pulled to fire a round.

If my finger does not rest on the bottom of the trigger guard and pulls the trigger safely blade at the very beginning of my trigger movement, the little tab that protrudes into the slot at the back of the trigger will catch slightly.

It makes me feel like I reach a trigger soft wall before the actual break. I can pull through that "detent" effect, however it causes a bumpy trigger and unnecessary energy and movement to my grip.

Again, a design flaw in my opinion.
 
GnarlsR2 said:
Speaking of "safety failure"….

I would very much like to be in the same camp as those who have had great experiences with the BG2.

One other issue that I find bothersome is the trigger safety. The flat trigger blade (wider than the trigger and has sharp edges) must be fully compressed against the trigger to prevent the little tab that is designed to prevent the trigger from being pulled to fire a round.

If my finger does not rest on the bottom of the trigger guard and pulls the trigger safely blade at the very beginning of my trigger movement, the little tab that protrudes into the slot at the back of the trigger will catch slightly.

It makes me feel like I reach a trigger soft wall before the actual break. I can pull through that "detent" effect, however it causes a bumpy trigger and unnecessary energy and movement to my grip.

Again, a design flaw in my opinion.
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After 1200 rounds I would have to disagree, never noticed this. YMMV
 
I had this exact issue with one of my MS versions. It was crazy stiff out of the box so I fired it, dry fired it, manipulated the MS hundreds of times. It wore in nicely and was about perfect. Then it kept getting lighter and lighter to engage/disengage.

It got to the point I could engage the safety, slap the butt of the gun fairly lightly and the safety would move out of detent and the trigger could be pulled.

There is no home fix. I sent it in. It came back quickly with a new safety that was the correct amount of stiffness (imo) to begin with. It has been perfect since then.

To the guy above who bought the Cheetah instead. As a long time Beretta guy I have owned most of the Cheetah lineup. I love the looks, the metal, the feel, but I have to tell you, once you shoot the Cheetah next to the BG 2.0 the love will be lost. lol. Blowback 380's next to locked breech 380's (80X to BG 2.0) are significantly less enjoyable to shoot and objectively slower (use a timer if you don't believe me).

The new BG certainly has some teething issues. They all (I have access to 5) shoot left out of the box. I think this is a function of being tiny little sights and the factory hasn't quite got their machinery dialed in. The rear sight being wide is a common complaint. If you hate it you hate it. That being said I (or anyone) can stack rounds on top of one another out to any distance I can use irons (old eyes) well. For me that is roughly 15 yards. The sights aren't the limiting factor most of these complaints make them out to be. It's the shooter.

The RSA is a hot mess. The end of the spring comes out from under and makes reassembly a bear. I don't know the permanent fix but I can tell you once you recognize what is happening it is fairly easy to push the spring backwards and "push" the offending end back under the flange of the rod. Do this and reassembly is normal again. It took me awhile to discover this fix but once I found it I push the end under and reassembly is easy/normal 100% of the time.

The MS manual safety thing is a pain. The gun still works throughout but you have a safety that may not actually be a safety. The only fix is warranty repair. I have never heard of them failing twice so there is that.

This gun is light years better than the original BG (had one sold one) and nobody would run any course of fire objectively better with most of the bigger heavier blowback 380's out there. They are prettier but they don't run as fast, hold as many rounds, and are bigger and heavier. For pretty buy a 230, PPK, or a Cheetah. To actually carry, these are a great choice.

Yes, manufacturers are letting us beta test more than they should. At this point I think you know all the potential issues and I would buy with confidence. It is your money though.
 
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The BG 2.0 gets mostly great reviews on another firearms forum I frequent. The only complaints have been a few about the sights and one about reassembly. Tons of great reviews there even though it is a Glock forum.

I have the M&P version of the original BG and like it a lot. I'll probably buy the 2.0 at some point.

OP, I hope S&W gets your BG back in order soon.
 
dben002 said:
Well...Well....that's a new one to add to the list of Bodyguard 2.0 problems....This gun needs a manufacturers safety recall and fix them......Then they need a new VP in charge of QC.
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This! What a shame - I've been a S&W fan for years and will never part with my Shield 2.0 but the current QC is ridiculous at S&W. Shame because I really like the concept of the BG 2.0 but feel they released it before working out the kinks.
 
S&W is not the only firearms company that has had recent QC issues.
Rugger's QC has been poor for the past few years. Fortunately, their CS is excellent and hassle-free.
Sig, well, people have differing opinions.

It's really sad. Small handguns are things we expect to work correctly, things we want to TRUST.
I have a 686-4 and a 19-2 that I would not trade for brand new ones!

I'd gladly pay an extra $100 for guns that are trustworthy out of the box.
That's why most of my handguns are Glocks.
But I hear the Bodyguard 2.0 calling out to me.
 
Smokinjoe0311 said:
Hi,

I purchased a bodyguard 2.0 over the weekend and have run into a pretty serious (in my opinion) issue. I got the thumb safety option and at first it was super stiff which I know is a common complaint so I didn't think anything of it. I put about 250 rounds through it and spent a couple days flicking the safety on and off to loosen it up.

Unfortunately I noticed that now it is way TOO loose. The safety wiggles a bit even when it's in the up position and while it can't fire when it's all the way up, even the slightest movement downward will allow it to fully fire. This is before the audible and felt click when it is switched off.

Is there a way I can tighten this thumb safety up without having to send it in? I'm pretty sure it's an issue with the thumb safety spring but this gun is so small I'm afraid I'll damage it if I try to fix this myself.

Anybody else seen this issue?

Update - I am sending this in to S&W and will provide an update when I hear more. I don't want to blame them for this right now, I don't know if this issue was caused during transit (I bought it from Academy) or happened at the store or what.
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I followed this YouTube video and it helped.

 
kbm6893 said:
Man, I am a HUGE fan of the M&P line. Full size, compact, subcompact, Compact 3.6", 9MM, .45, and .380 in the M&P Bodyguard 1.0. I kept going back and forth with replacing the BG 1.0 with the 2.0.

I've fired nothing other than 50 rounds of Winchester White Box .380 and probably 500 rounds of my own reloads. Never one malfunction. Long trigger, sure, but at 7 yards the group would fit in a paper plate rapid firing. Good enough for what that gun is made for. Belly gun up close range I would ever have to shoot this gun, the target is gonna be way closer than 7 yards.

I'm sticking with the 1.0 for now. The day I thought about buying the BG 2.0, I walked out with a Beretta Cheetah 80X instead. Smooth as silk and screams class and style.
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Might be late to the party, sorry. I have an 80x and a 2.0; I prefer the 2.0. It's easier to carry because of the weight and size, and, with the locked breech barrel and low bore axis, it shoots softer than the 80x. Actually feels better, at least to me. Comes with a 10 and 13(?) round mag, they are kind of small also. Little more difficult to score hits using rapid fire, because of the short sight radius, but practice will resolve that. IMHO you should buy the BG2.0; you won't regret it.
 
kelljor said:
Might be late to the party, sorry. I have an 80x and a 2.0; I prefer the 2.0. It's easier to carry because of the weight and size, and, with the locked breech barrel and low bore axis, it shoots softer than the 80x. Actually feels better, at least to me. Comes with a 10 and 13(?) round mag, they are kind of small also. Little more difficult to score hits using rapid fire, because of the short sight radius, but practice will resolve that. IMHO you should buy the BG2.0; you won't regret it.
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I bought the 80X just because it was so much classier and quality built than the BG 2.0. I'm never gonna carry it. I'm a big Beretta fan and just liked it.

I might buy the 2.0 at some point. Just never felt unarmed carrying the 1.0. I used to carry a 5 shot J frame on the subways in 1990's NYC. Never felt unarmed. 7 shots of .380 are ok for me.
 
kbm6893 said:
I bought the 80X just because it was so much classier and quality built than the BG 2.0. I'm never gonna carry it. I'm a big Beretta fan and just liked it.

I might buy the 2.0 at some point. Just never felt unarmed carrying the 1.0. I used to carry a 5 shot J frame on the subways in 1990's NYC. Never felt unarmed. 7 shots of .380 are ok for me.
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I have the 80X as well and love it, and in fact, it used to be my EDC carry...before I bought my BG 2.0. But I much prefer a gun that I can pocket carry versus the AIWB method I used with the 80X.


Frank
 
kbm6893 said:
I bought the 80X just because it was so much classier and quality built than the BG 2.0. I'm never gonna carry it. I'm a big Beretta fan and just liked it.

I might buy the 2.0 at some point. Just never felt unarmed carrying the 1.0. I used to carry a 5 shot J frame on the subways in 1990's NYC. Never felt unarmed. 7 shots of .380 are ok for me.
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copy that about the 80x. Really nice gun, but not gonna use it for carry. Might not even shoot it much. It's just cool.
 
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