Bourbon again: Wheated stuff

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I just came across a new blog entry by Chuck Cowdery which might interest those of you who enjoy wheated bourbons like Makers Mark or Larceny, and are maybe hoping to get their hands on a bottle of Pappy some day.

For the uninitiated, in a wheated bourbon the flavoring grain, which is normally rye added to spice up the (legally required) majority of corn in the mash, is replaced by winter wheat for a softer flavor. Actually, Pappy van Winkle and his Stitzel-Weller distillery got into wheated bourbon after Prohibition mostly because it becomes palatable at a younger age, and time was money as the pent-up demand had to be met.

Anyway, enjoy the article. And then pour yourself a good bourbon. It is Sunday, after all. ;)

The Chuck Cowdery Blog: That Old Story About Pappy, Maker's Mark, and Old Fitzgerald
 
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Interesting article. My Father who only drank socially always had to have the liquor cabinet stocked with all the "best stuff" for entertaining. Best of every kind of alcohol. I remember the Makers Mark Old Fritz, Evan Williams, Jack plus all the Rums, Vodka etc. Lots of exotic after dinner liquors

Interesting about the use of the old whiskey barrels. Never knew that and I drank a lot of the stuff.:D

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I'm puzzled. I currently drink Makers. Are Larceny and Old Fitzgerald cheaper alternatives?

They’re alternatives. Price and availability depend on where you live.

Here, Larceny is currently a buck cheaper than standard Makers (24 vs 25), and just two proof points higher (92 vs 90), so the price shouldn’t be the deciding factor. Try and compare; I find the flavor profile pretty similar.

There are different Old Fitzgerald bottlings, none of which I can get here. Lately they’ve done some very pricey special bottles (>100), but the basic OF which is only distributed around Kentucky and the neighboring states is well below 20 bucks, much cheaper than the other two.
 
Weller Old Antique 107 is my favorite wheater but it is difficult to find around here and most places have it way overpriced.

I don't care for the Weller Special Reserve and the 12 year version is very scarce here.
 
Interesting article. Weller Antique is my favorite. The price recently increased from $35 to $45. The Special Reserve is still $25 to $27.
I did not care for the Weller 12.
 
$20 for a standard size 750 is not a bad price.

Last visit to the "Big" store showed me little bottles of 375ml running $46 to $52 which would burn up a "C" note in a hurry, for 5 star stuff.

I tried Marker, sorry............. it is not for me.


" Shameless excess ". (post 10)
How dare we buy those huge things................ Do they come in Magnum?
 
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Yum, yum and yum. There’s a bottle of Willett Pot Still on the counter...not open yet, but soon. ‘‘Twas in a little strip mall liquor store, and after several wasted trips to find any Willett, it was buy at first sight. That, and it was the 1.75 liter size. Shameless excess :)
 
Yum, yum and yum. There’s a bottle of Willett Pot Still on the counter...not open yet, but soon. ‘‘Twas in a little strip mall liquor store, and after several wasted trips to find any Willett, it was buy at first sight. That, and it was the 1.75 liter size. Shameless excess :)

I have an empty bottle of Willet sitting on my rack. It was a nice bourbon. Love the unique bottles looks but it was a pain to pour out of.

Overall I've never been a huge wheated bourbon fan. I prefer my bourbon spicy with more rye in the mash bill. A new favorite is Henry McKenna 10 yr old.

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I’m a Weller fan myself, having enjoyed both the Special Reserve and the 12-year varieties. But it is rare to find any Weller here in the north country. My local store (a huge bourbon selection) gets only 3 bottles of Special Reserve a year. When the store manager calls me, I don’t waste any time getting there!!
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[A new favorite is Henry McKenna 10 yr old.]
McKenna was my go to bourbon before it got all the attention. 3 years ago I could buy it by the case for$28per bottle. Now when you find it it's $50 limit 1 bottle

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My all-time favorite Bourbon (I'm a Kentucky Colonel, by the way) is Rebel Yell - best with just a dash of water on the rocks - a genyouwine sippin' whiskey. Jim Beam is fine for mixing, and combines to make a fine Manhattan, which I do regularly.

John

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That last Photo is of "Blended" Scotch
Which is about as Real as Indiana Bourbon

This is real Indiana Bourbon. And it maintains the current Indiana Bourbon standards.
 

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I like a shot or two every now and then at special times just like beer every now and then. Being diabetic it is a now and then thing even though my A1c is controlled well enough that it is not a problem if kept within reason. Wendy is a Wild Turkey 101 gal so that is the whiskey of choice here.
 
This is real Indiana Bourbon. And it maintains the current Indiana Bourbon standards.

There is lots of Indiana bourbon, actually.

Even if some of it sails under a false flag or reveals its origin in Lawrenceburg only in the fine print. ;)

And most of it is really good stuff, regardless of the marketing fluff.

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Ironically, there are NO Indiana Bourbons nor any made in any other state than Kentucky.

By Federal law, Bourbon can only be made in Kentucky and adhere to specific formulations of corn.

That's why Jack Daniels labels call it Tennessee whiskey.
 
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