Break in period

[pawngal]

I can't speak for any other manufacturer but, the only manufacturer that I am aware of the states " 500 " rounds IN the manual is KIMBER. Shoot 100/Clean repeat 4 more times... Have a problem with FTE/FTL, call Kimber and the first question asked, would be how many rounds are through the gun.

Of all the Kimbers I have owned maybe one was not right after 500 rounds, I called Kimber and they made it right.

Agree on the Kimbers needing a "break in" time. I recently bought an Ulta Carry II and we are not getting along very well, FTE. But have to but more rounds thru it before I contact Kimber, if I still have the problem.

 

[American1776]

It is my opinion that any company that claims their guns may need a 'break in' period to work reliably is unacceptable.

The only reason that some guns need 200-500 rounds to be reliable is because the tolerances were incorrect from the factory, and the continued shooting 'wears in' the slide/frame fit enough so that it doesn't hang up. Such fitting should have been done at the factory, by the company.

I'm betting my life and my family's life on these guns: I expect them to work 100 percent from day one.

 

[cybermgk]

. It seems like the manufacturers are shifting costs to us. Is anyone else bothered by this?

Personally, I think we, as shooters, need a 'break-in period' with a new firearm to get used to shooting that particular gun. This is even more important for a weapon you mean to use to hunt or defend with. That takes shooting.

Now if you bought a gun for self defense, put a few rounds through it to make sure it fires, then never fired it until needed, I guess I could see your point above.

 

[UncleEd]

What do you think would happen if it were introduced today? Would it gather the sentimental, cult following or be a higher priced HiPoint?

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[ditrina]

Funny...
I just left the Ferarri Forum and there are 2 pages discussing the same thing, to break in or not to break in
No resoultion or agreement there either

 

[GKC]

Personally, I think we, as shooters, need a 'break-in period' with a new firearm to get used to shooting that particular gun. This is even more important for a weapon you mean to use to hunt or defend with. That takes shooting.

Now if you bought a gun for self defense, put a few rounds through it to make sure it fires, then never fired it until needed, I guess I could see your point above.

That's different. I can see how a shooter needs to adjust to a new gun, but it should still work, absent user induced errors (like limp wristing, for example.) However, what's unacceptable to me is a manufacturer refusing to address malfunctions until a pistol has been shot 500 rounds. A gun should work from round one on...if it doesn't, and it's not a shooter induced error, it should be fixed.

 

[Alabusa]

Funny...
I just left the Ferarri Forum and there are 2 pages discussing the same thing, to break in or not to break in
No resoultion or agreement there either

Break it in like your gonna drive it.

That is a gorgeous car!

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[Arik]

Funny...
I just left the Ferarri Forum and there are 2 pages discussing the same thing, to break in or not to break in
No resoultion or agreement there either

I'll gladly do a break in on your Ferrari wether or not it needs one!

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[RGVshooter]

I was once given a NIB Glock 23 on the morning of qualification . . .

And it never missed a beat did it?. I have a G23 gen 4 and I've lost track of how many rounds has been thru it. I can say it has not had a single issue whatsoever since new.

 

[wingriderz]

It is my opinion that any company that claims their guns may need a 'break in' period to work reliably is unacceptable.

The only reason that some guns need 200-500 rounds to be reliable is because the tolerances were incorrect from the factory, and the continued shooting 'wears in' the slide/frame fit enough so that it doesn't hang up. Such fitting should have been done at the factory, by the company.

I'm betting my life and my family's life on these guns: I expect them to work 100 percent from day one.

With you 110 % . Springfield spewed run a threw more 100 rounds threw it should be fine. I asked them when I could expect a few more 100 rounds at door.And why wasn't it. Milled or built properly at factory ? They had no answer

 

[Alabusa]

It is my opinion that any company that claims their guns may need a 'break in' period to work reliably is unacceptable.

The only reason that some guns need 200-500 rounds to be reliable is because the tolerances were incorrect from the factory, and the continued shooting 'wears in' the slide/frame fit enough so that it doesn't hang up. Such fitting should have been done at the factory, by the company.

I'm betting my life and my family's life on these guns: I expect them to work 100 percent from day one.

Don't buy a new 1911, even a Wilson Combat, Les Baer and Ed Brown recommend 400-500 break in before fully reliable. That's on a $4k dollar pistol.

Ed Brown has a LS10 that starts at $3900 and I want one so bad it hurts. However, I refuse to pay that for a weapon that isn't "fully reliable" until after 500 rounds.

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[Alabusa]

And it never missed a beat did it?. I have a G23 gen 4 and I've lost track of how many rounds has been thru it. I can say it has not had a single issue whatsoever since new.

Sounds like my lowly Ruger SR9C. Over 2k rounds and not 1 issue with the gun yet. Have had a few squib loaded round that didn't have enough power to cycle the action but that's not the gun's fault.

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[ditrina]

Don't buy a new 1911, even a Wilson Combat, Les Baer and Ed Brown recommend 400-500 break in before fully reliable. That's on a $4k dollar pistol.

Ed Brown has a LS10 that starts at $3900 and I want one so bad it hurts. However, I refuse to pay that for a weapon that isn't "fully reliable" until after 500 rounds.

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I see what you did there... Sarcasm

 

[carpriver]

Maybe the 1911 stopped being relevant in the 1980s or earlier.




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[Ivan the Butcher]

I always start a 1911 with proven Wilson mags. After 70 or so rounds I go to "other" mags. If there is a problem during the "Wilson mag", it is the gun. Whoever put it together (usually me) needs to get it right before we go further. If A New gun jams on the mags provided but not proven mags, they should replace the mags (they may not want to; See how many magazine changes S&W went through when the started making semi auto 45's). But if you know the gun is good and the mags are ****, you can just take care of it yourself. But again, why should we eat another $200 to get a Brand New gun working.

 

[chief38]

Well, I only own Colt 1911's and they have all worked properly right out of the box - no break in period needed! With over 20,000 hand loads through my Colt Gold Cup Series 70 NM it will still shoot as good as I am capable of. I may be in the minority here, but except for bragging rights of the high end 1911's I see so true justification to buy designer 1911's.

The Ed Browns, Les Behr's, Kimber's, Wilson's etc are all fine guns but IMHO are built too tight and will not function 100% properly with hand loaded ammo. If I can not shoot my hand loads I am not interested in owning the firearm. I may be in the minority here - but that's nothing new LOL!!

 

[joeintexas]

Well, I only own Colt 1911's and they have all worked properly right out of the box - no break in period needed! With over 20,000 hand loads through my Colt Gold Cup Series 70 NM it will still shoot as good as I am capable of. I may be in the minority here, but except for bragging rights of the high end 1911's I see so true justification to buy designer 1911's.

The Ed Browns, Les Behr's, Kimber's, Wilson's etc are all fine guns but IMHO are built too tight and will not function 100% properly with hand loaded ammo. If I can not shoot my hand loads I am not interested in owning the firearm. I may be in the minority here - but that's nothing new LOL!!

Chief that's some pretty amazing shooting and fine testament to the Colt Gold Cup. I'm with you on the handloads.