BUGs how many carry them?

I sometimes carry a New York reload.

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I sure hope we don't fall into the Internet meme of "if you carry less than I do, you're a sheeple,and if you carry more than I do, you're a paranoid mall ninja."

Speaking just for myself, I learned to carry backup as a young patrolman in the early 1970s. Before that decade was out, I had become comfortable carrying backup on my own time, and stayed with the concept.

These days, it's most comforting when I'm traveling with my significant other, a state and regional IDPA shooting champ who is licensed to carry in 30-some states, but not everywhere we go. At the moment we're visiting a state where I'm legal and she's not. If there should be trouble, the doctrine of competing harms allows me to hand her a gun, and her to take it, if an exigent circumstance arises. For me, that's reason enough for the second gun.

Though, with many more reasons for the practice to be valid, I'm also happy to have the second one along when I'm alone.

Just another two cents...
 
For civilian CCW, carrying a BUG would probably have to depend on your environment. I carry one on the job, but it can be a challenge to conceal two pistols during some seasons or certain civic or social functions - I.e. at a wedding a couple of years ago in a tux - M&P 45 in a cheap, slipping belly band and a 640 in my boot.
 
ghstrydr164 said:
Union, Association, Bargaining Group, ect., its all semantics but amounts to the same thing.

Just read about The Alabama State Trooper Association a rose by any other name spells (UNION)
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Except they lack key hallmarks of a labor union such as collective bargaining roles on behalf of their membership, thereby making it beyond a real stretch to call them a union.

Of particular interest from their by-laws: "This association shall not have any affiliation, directly or indirectly, with any labor union, either actively or passively, at any time." I suppose that's just semantics too. And there's more in their by-laws forbidding anything that might remotely resemble union behavior.

The information above is public. It is posted on a public website and available to the general public. The poster on this forum does not necessarily represent any personal affiliation with the ASTA or any agency with which it has interests.

You got me ghstrydr164. Congratulations. Now please go troll another group.

Final post on this issue and in this thread. Thank you.
 
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I had a bit of trouble once, literally getting the bum rush and two bums tried torush me and rob me. Our most excellent moment together was interrupted by the arrival of other people. However, during our time together I could not reach the .45 on my hip as it was under a coat. I could get my hand on the J frame in my pocket though.

After that, I went out and bought a Galco horizontal shoulder holster and left my coat open a bit.

These days I like to carry a small .22 auto in addition to...whatever. I hate squirrels. It also might be useful for other things.

I started carrying a second gun years ago thanks to reading Mr. Ayoob.
 
walkin' trails said:
For civilian CCW, carrying a BUG would probably have to depend on your environment. I carry one on the job, but it can be a challenge to conceal two pistols during some seasons or certain civic or social functions - I.e. at a wedding a couple of years ago in a tux - M&P 45 in a cheap, slipping belly band and a 640 in my boot.
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So I take it the wedding was of the handgun, not shotgun, variety?
 
I carry a BUG when the feeling strikes me. Then there was the time, to prove a point I had on 4 full sized 45 autos and a J-frame in my pocket and a 32 auto on my ankle, All this at church! This proved that the greeters didn't know bean about IDing people at the door. I gave all three greeters a hug, yet at the security meeting that afternoon, I pulled off my sweater and they were surprised, as there were guns all over me!

Normally, I just carry one in warm weather and two in cold.

Ivan
 
I often carry a gun where it is not particularly accessible to my left hand. On some of those occasions I carry a gun for my left hand. On yet other occasions I will carry a backup gun. In very cold weather I used to occasionally carry more than three, for reasons of access. I don't remember whether or not I carried a backup, also. I guess when you are carrying four or more guns, you are unlikely to need a backup.

But you might need a good belt ( Gun Belts by The Belt Man ).
 
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Carry a big gun for a defense but then carry a small gun in the event the big gun quits working? If the little gun will get the job done when the big one quits working it will also do the job if you are not carrying any other gun so why carry the big gun. It makes sense to me if I need a big gun to get a job done I also need a big gun for a spare. In my opinion in the real world a BUG (back up gun) should be equal to the primary gun. Just my idea and thoughts and worth what you paid for it. Larry
 
Texas law is silent as to number, so no limit. I do know some states only allow one, and I suppose it could be two in some states. Anyone else live in one of those restrictive states? Just curious.
 
tops said:
Carry a big gun for a defense but then carry a small gun in the event the big gun quits working? If the little gun will get the job done when the big one quits working it will also do the job if you are not carrying any other gun so why carry the big gun. It makes sense to me if I need a big gun to get a job done I also need a big gun for a spare.

In my opinion in the real world a BUG (back up gun) should be equal to the primary gun.

Just my idea and thoughts and worth what you paid for it. Larry
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I'm with that.........:D

Colt Commander LWT & Colt Defender w/ankle rig...Both in 45 ACP



Su Amigo,
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I carry my Model 60 in my right front pocket. When I decide to carry something else I will leave my 60 in my pocket and my Glock 19 will be my bug. I guess its a little backwards. Recently my back has been giving me trouble so my 60 in my pocket has become my EDC.
 
Buford57 said:
So I take it the wedding was of the handgun, not shotgun, variety?
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They're the same, just depends on what region of the U.S. youre from, e.g., shotguns in Appalacia or the south and handguns in New York and more cosmopolitan areas. Some location require both! :D
 
Nope, never.

Have managed 40 years of gun toting without ever rocking a second handgun and never will.

Having never had a non-intentional misfire/fail to fire in thousands of hours of range time, I like my odds in that regard.

Having never needed a second handgun whilst interacting with many hundreds of bad guys, I like my odds in that regard, too.

Be safe.
 
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The only State I have herd of that limits to One CCW Gun is New Mexico.
 
haywood said:
The only State I have herd of that limits to One CCW Gun is New Mexico.
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In California your CCW is for the gun that has its serial number on the permit you may not carry another gun in its place or a BUG.
 
walkin' trails said:
For civilian CCW, carrying a BUG would probably have to depend on your environment. I carry one on the job, but it can be a challenge to conceal two pistols during some seasons or certain civic or social functions - I.e. at a wedding a couple of years ago in a tux - M&P 45 in a cheap, slipping belly band and a 640 in my boot.
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Belt under the cummerbund which would conceal almost anything. Bellybands suck. While I hate ankle carry, I do it when necessary. Went to a wedding with one J frame in the pocket, another on the ankle. (Uninvited dirtbag relatives of the groom were expected.) No problems popped up and no one was the wiser.
 
The Big D said:
Have managed 40 years of gun toting without ever rocking a second handgun and never will.

Having never had a non-intentional misfire/fail to fire in thousands of hours of range time, I like my odds in that regard.

Having never needed a second handgun whilst interacting with many hundreds of bad guys, I like my odds in that regard, too.

Be safe.
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My "bad guy" experience took place without the benefit or possibility of a partner or backup. I carry two guns.

Primary open/duty carry - a 4 inch S&W Model 686-6.
Primary concealed carry - a 3 inch S&W Model 13-3.
Backup carry was a S&W Model 37 now mostly replaced by a S&W Model 642-2.

In uniform the backup can be in my hand surreptitiously.
 
What?

What, pray tell, does the potential availability of a partner or backup have to do with the discussion of carrying multiple handguns?

Be safe.
 
Back in the Day!

I did not think about it. Even today the second one will be in my truck. After all a CHL is to confront the unseen. If I know there is going to be trouble that I can not avoid my M&P 15 will be the go to firearm!
 
For years on duty I carried a full size 1911 and a commander size 1911 as backup. After many years of not needing that second gun I stopped.
 
ghstrydr164 said:
In California your CCW is for the gun that has its serial number on the permit you may not carry another gun in its place or a BUG.
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I have seen CA licenses with multiple guns listed on it but there does seem to be multiple examples of licenses that don't look the same, do such rules vary by county or some such thing?
 
A guy is rushing at you from a close distance with a knife, you get 2 shots off, one hits him in the chest & one in the arm. Your third shot JAMS. He's now 6 feet from you coming at you with a I'm going to kill you look. What do you do? You go to your backup weapon, that what you do! Or maybe a knife? I'd rather have my backup pistol.

You could tap & rack to clear the jam...but is there time for that? Most likely not.
 
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