djames7726
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Has anyone seen a picture of the M&P Shield that just got approved for sale in California? I am curious to see what changes they had to make to the loaded chamber indicator.
California M&P Shield
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panamajack310
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Hey, I heard the Shield for the Comifornia list was a single shot shield with loaded chamber indicator that was red, fixed magazine, flag sticking out of the bottom to make it impossible to carry concealed and an alarm that screams when it leaves your house..LOL
All kidding aside if you look at all the requirements that California has it will probably also have to have a manual safety, magazine disconect and some other feature. Here is the link to the CA gun requirements
12125 thru 12133 Handgun Safety Testing - Dangerous Weapons Control Laws - Bureau of Firearms - California Dept. of Justice - Office of the Attorney General
All kidding aside if you look at all the requirements that California has it will probably also have to have a manual safety, magazine disconect and some other feature. Here is the link to the CA gun requirements
12125 thru 12133 Handgun Safety Testing - Dangerous Weapons Control Laws - Bureau of Firearms - California Dept. of Justice - Office of the Attorney General
gamma72
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My brother who is a LEO in San Diego is so frustrated with the gun laws there that he is conteplating on moving to a different state. stuff that he wants he cant get down there. he's reasoning for why a lot of brands or models are not available is that CA is not a big enough market for the gun industry to make CA compliant modifications to their firearms and still make a profit.
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Wouldn't they just have to add the mag disconnect? It already has an external safety. Or to they require more than the window for a LCI?
I think all it needs is the mag disconnect.
Pigirondan
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Your brother should look a little more into that. LEO's can buy just about any non-compliant handgun in California.
gamma72
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He goes to shoot are civilian ranges a lot and just doesn't want the hassle of having to inform people that he is a LEO if he shows up with some non-CA compliant firearms.
Fate
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NObody cares. There are plenty of "off-roster" pistols on the range. Sounds like he wants to move anyhow (don't blame him).
Maddmax
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Maybe they are waiting on that "May Cause Canser" lable Calif. sticks on everything.
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I don't know. A sticker with "Warning: Contains lead" might be kind of fun.
DLeeHarley
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I was born and raised in California and was happy for the most part. My early years were in SoCal and when I graduated H.S. I moved to the Bay Area. Not a bad place in the early '70's. But slowly but surely things just kept moving the wrong way and in 2000 I told my wife were out of here and we moved here to Idaho. The only problem with the move was I didn't make it about 10 years earlier! Tell your brother to get out as soon as he can. It's not going to get any better and believe out or not it can get worse! Good Luck and Shoot Straight!
I was born and raised in California and was happy for the most part. My early years were in SoCal and when I graduated H.S. I moved to the Bay Area. Not a bad place in the early '70's. But slowly but surely things just kept moving the wrong way and in 2000 I told my wife were out of here and we moved here to Idaho. The only problem with the move was I didn't make it about 10 years earlier! Tell your brother to get out as soon as he can. It's not going to get any better and believe out or not it can get worse! Good Luck and Shoot Straight!
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djames7726
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LCI
I believe that the LCI will have to changed to something like the Ruger LC9, so that you can detect a loaded round in the dark. Maybe it will have a night light, Ha Ha!
I believe that the LCI will have to changed to something like the Ruger LC9, so that you can detect a loaded round in the dark. Maybe it will have a night light, Ha Ha!
You all know that Smith & Wesson is located in Massachusetts.
The Shield is not available in its home state and if what I heard at a gun store in Foxboro is true, probably never will be because S&W doesn't want to go through the hoops to make it "Massachusetts compliant."
The Shield is not available in its home state and if what I heard at a gun store in Foxboro is true, probably never will be because S&W doesn't want to go through the hoops to make it "Massachusetts compliant."
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djames7726
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CA & MA
Wouldn't the Massachusetts version of the Shield be the same as the California version? You might want to check the approved handgun list and see if they have approved it. California just approved it on 7-2-2012.
Wouldn't the Massachusetts version of the Shield be the same as the California version? You might want to check the approved handgun list and see if they have approved it. California just approved it on 7-2-2012.
Fortunately for me I live in a free State (Ohio) but was visiting Mass and got into the conversation at the Bass Pro Shop.
If the M&P Shield is authorized it's not yet been published. The latest list on Mass.gov is May 2012.
Note that there is not one Colt handgun on the list!
http://www.mass.gov/eopss/docs/chsb/firearms/approved-weapons-roster-4-2012.pdf
BuckeyeChuck
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Hey, Airbus just announced plans for an A320 final assembly line in Mobile. Maybe S&W can move there, too.
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djames7726
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Found it
They added a picture of the California approved version of the Shield on the Smith & Wesson website. Just as I thought< they added a LCI just like the Ruger LC9.
They added a picture of the California approved version of the Shield on the Smith & Wesson website. Just as I thought< they added a LCI just like the Ruger LC9.
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GnarlyTwoTrack
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Looks the same except indicator. Anything else?
