Arik
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And we have all your SMLE 303's. Wanna trade?
No no no. I like my 303's thank you very much!!! You guys there can keep the 22s
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Cancelled backorders for Federal 22LR on MidwayUSA
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No no no. I like my 303's thank you very much!!! You guys there can keep the 22s
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skojiro
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I wouldn't be surprised if they got more than a years+ Federals production of backorders and realized they just couldn't fulfill them all within an acceptable amount of time. Rather than deal with angry customers all year they just dropped them all and figure deal with it all at once.
Some items have been shipping as I got my 2000 rounds of M22 in early December when I was suppose to get it in May. I figure if I had placed that order a few days later and I'd still be waiting on it.
I do agree that we are our worst enemy when it comes to this shortage. I've only been a firearms owner since November 2012, and 15-22 owner since last april, so I have pretty much have only known this "get it while you can" ammo environment. I have had good luck with the 22 ammo thread and using the Walmart app, but if you are not plugged in and looking 2-3 times a day you are going to miss out.
Just keep your eye on the ammo thread maybe those of us that did well before can make a point to post more to that thread even though I don't 'need' it to help pay it forward.
Some items have been shipping as I got my 2000 rounds of M22 in early December when I was suppose to get it in May. I figure if I had placed that order a few days later and I'd still be waiting on it.
I do agree that we are our worst enemy when it comes to this shortage. I've only been a firearms owner since November 2012, and 15-22 owner since last april, so I have pretty much have only known this "get it while you can" ammo environment. I have had good luck with the 22 ammo thread and using the Walmart app, but if you are not plugged in and looking 2-3 times a day you are going to miss out.
Just keep your eye on the ammo thread maybe those of us that did well before can make a point to post more to that thread even though I don't 'need' it to help pay it forward.
+1+1+1+1+1+1 sorry, my message was to freakin short I guess................geeeesh
I was in Bass Pro for the 25th time. I always ask it they have any .22lr. The answer is always, no. I ask at Dick's Sporting Good, Academy Sports, Walmart, etc. It's always the same answer, No. Sold Out. Bass Pro told me they get some in on every truck. Tuesday, Thursday Saturday (maybe) at 9:00, He said the same guys are in line everyday and buy everything they have within minutes. Hoarders are causing this. I tend to believe American Rifleman (NRA) they are hard core against Obama, if he was to blame they would scream it.
UncaGrunny
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You'd think that well over a year of apparently bottomless demand would have prompted SOME manufacturer to tool up for added volume. Or for a new competitor to enter the fray & snap up some low-hanging fruit.
Stray cat
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When Midway cancelled my backorder they said that they cancel backorders after 365 days.
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Correct. They recently updated their backorder policy - you can check it out online. It clearly (and unfortunately) states that they cancel the backorder after 365 days.
What is your Backorder Policy?
So my back order created in 12/2013 that just got bumped to 10/29/2014 is dancing within days of being dropped entirely?? But they are still taking back orders? So if someone back orders in June and my BO gets bumped to 12/2014 it will be dropped but the the person who BO'D in June gets to stay on the List????? You notice how irritating BO's are, I wonder if the initials are just a coincidence or part of the plan. Time to make a new foil hat, it got above zero today, things are looking up. Be Safe,
You got me, brother...
I only know because I got an email from them this afternoon about some Remington Bucket O' Bullets I have on backorder with them. I placed the backorder in November, and it originally had a arrival date of 12/31/2013. They just emailed me to tell me it's been pushed to June.
I saw at the bottom of the email a little blurb about backorder policy changing and clicked on it. That's when I saw the 365 day stipulation. I have no idea how long that's been going on for. It could have been that way for awhile for all I know. I'm really hoping my backorder ships before June at this point
You got me, brother...
I only know because I got an email from them this afternoon about some Remington Bucket O' Bullets I have on backorder with them. I placed the backorder in November, and it originally had a arrival date of 12/31/2013. They just emailed me to tell me it's been pushed to June.
I saw at the bottom of the email a little blurb about backorder policy changing and clicked on it. That's when I saw the 365 day stipulation. I have no idea how long that's been going on for. It could have been that way for awhile for all I know. I'm really hoping my backorder ships before June at this point
It's kind of weird that we're all getting emails about backorders being pushed at the same time. Maybe there's something bigger going on?
Kevin8503- 2-3 days ago I checked my back order only to find it had been bumped. I checked their BO policy, nothing about 365 days. Read another post on here and someone said the policy was NOT on line. Today I received the email with update about the bump, checked their BO policy and SURPRISE there was the 365 disclaimer. So it may have been their policy but it has only been online in the last 2-3 days. Be Safe,
68lemans462
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I was happy to cancel my backorder with Midway, I did it today. Mine was for a case of American Eagle 22lr which never showed up. Midway gouges their customers with exorbitant shipping costs, and their estimates of "in stock" are piss poor. I will NEVER DO BUSINESS with Midway again....
As to the ammo shortage, I dont believe in any conspiracy theories. Read the article that was previously mentioned in last month's American Rifleman... Are we the problem?? Quite likely. The shooting sport has grown immensely in the past 5-10 years.. Have I bought every round of 22lr I have seen available in the past year, at the highest quantities available? Yes I have... I'm sure you guys have too.
As to the ammo shortage, I dont believe in any conspiracy theories. Read the article that was previously mentioned in last month's American Rifleman... Are we the problem?? Quite likely. The shooting sport has grown immensely in the past 5-10 years.. Have I bought every round of 22lr I have seen available in the past year, at the highest quantities available? Yes I have... I'm sure you guys have too.
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jagular
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When I placed a back order for some 22 last January the merchant told me that they could only hold credit card purchases for one year; even though I wasn't billed for it when the order was placed. The cancellation of your order might fall inline with this rule.
I'd cancel my backorder, but even with the ridiculous shipping the Bucket O' Bullets will come to $77; or $0.055 cents a round. That's still really hard to beat these days. Compared to some of the stuff posted on the In-Stock Ammo thread here, it's worth it to let the backorder ride out and see what happens.
Now if they try and jack up the price, I'll be on that website like a man on a mission.
Now if they try and jack up the price, I'll be on that website like a man on a mission.
Ok you win. That flat out stinks.
got this from Sportsman guide this morning Blazer Value pak
discontinued?????
Dear Valued Customer,
You asked us to notify you when this item became available for purchase:
# 212184-000-000 - 525 RDS. .22 LR 40 GR LRN
Unfortunately we have been informed that this item will not be available for purchase since it has been discontinued. We apologize for any inconvenience
discontinued?????
Dear Valued Customer,
You asked us to notify you when this item became available for purchase:
# 212184-000-000 - 525 RDS. .22 LR 40 GR LRN
Unfortunately we have been informed that this item will not be available for purchase since it has been discontinued. We apologize for any inconvenience
The CMP has notified it's customers that there is a 2 year backorder on 22LR ammo, from what they've been told. They're, like everyone else, trying to get ammo from whomever they can.
This is going to be a long haul folks.
This is going to be a long haul folks.
The issue is that Federal is no longer manufacturing those rounds in that packaging. This makes it a different item, one that Midway must now order new and that we (I got cancelled too) must order from Midway when they get it straightened out.
Most manufacturers run .22 LR in one shot a year. Some are now running .22 LR production lines year-round but, until the last year or two, there has never been the demand for that volume. To run a line continuously means something else doesn't get run or the plant has to invest more space, time, people and tooling to set up a new line. Even that's happening, it just doesn't happen over a weekend.
I've got several .22 LR orders going on a year past original delivery dates. But I still keep ordering...
Jeff
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The reason .22lr is in short supply is because of your rifle, the 1522, and an endless list of other .22 "black rifles" that simply didn't exist just a few years ago. And now look at the huge number of new .22 centerfire handgun replicas being produced. None of this existed a few years ago. As well, bad economic times drive folks to shooting more rimfire. I shoot more .22 than most folks and I can tell you that cheap bulk ammo was getting more and more difficult to find well before the panic. The panic simply pushed things over the edge or rim as it were.
Along with the explosion in new .22 guns has come an explosion in rimfire suppressor sales. Supressors, which used to be a rare animal, are now quite common to see at the club. Rimfire gun manufactures are putting out all sorts of guns with threaded barrels that they never had done before.
Gentlemen, this ain't your daddy's 10-22 and Marlin 60 rimfire world anymore. Y'all are dangling 25rd mags from your rifles and blowing through bricks of ammo in a shooting session.... and there is a ton more of ya than ever before.
As far as Midway canceling backorders... don't know. But it has been widely publicized on the Net that Midway was taking backorders on .22 ammo. I can only imagine how many tens of thousands of shooters stampeded to get their orders placed before it became clear there was just no way fulfilling.
...and Slide Fire stocks
If the Midway rep told you what you stated in your OP, then yes, you were lied to. Federal did ship the 525 bulk packs to them and they did offer it for sale yesterday - even by the case it seems.
I am a long-time customer of Midway and have to say a very satisfied one so far. I must admit though that this is troubling... not to mention highly coincidental considering what just happened with the product being offered. They have been allowing backorders again now for a while (I currently have one myself) and I'm not so sure if that was a smart decision considering the continual situation with .22lr.
Midway has done good in these crazy times compared to many others. Now I'm on guard a little bit.
Things are literally inside out when it comes to the once common .22lr.
What I don't understand is they canceled it, then 4 days later they had it in stock
I've exchanged a number of emails along that line now, they keep flipping back and forth on stories. Sometimes they cancelled because Federal told them they weren't getting it, sometimes they cancelled because 365 day limit (which wasn't actually in effect when I placed the order). The basic summary of chain comes down to something like we don't care, so deal with it.
This is very un-Midway-like of them and has made me rather unhappy with them.
fresno_kid
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Not that this will help, but many moons ago Midway canceled one of my backorders and I e-mailed the head cheese to voice my displeasure.
larrypotterfield at midwayusa.com
They didn't reinstate my order but they did give me some midway bucks that I could use in the future.
Sometimes it helps to skip the monkey and go right to the organ grinder.
larrypotterfield at midwayusa.com
They didn't reinstate my order but they did give me some midway bucks that I could use in the future.
Sometimes it helps to skip the monkey and go right to the organ grinder.
lard
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Midway...............
Most of the posts here are somewhat favorable to Midway. For those of you that aren't, please keep in mind that Larry Potterfield and his wife donated to the NRA from their own resources (not round up on orders) a lot of money. I don't remember the exact amount but seems to me it was a million$$.
All of the orders that I have placed with them have been handled professionally. I have had no complaints.
I will continue to do business with them.
Most of the posts here are somewhat favorable to Midway. For those of you that aren't, please keep in mind that Larry Potterfield and his wife donated to the NRA from their own resources (not round up on orders) a lot of money. I don't remember the exact amount but seems to me it was a million$$.
All of the orders that I have placed with them have been handled professionally. I have had no complaints.
I will continue to do business with them.
.22LR is coming back in stock down where I live. A Bass Pro Shops just got in a **** ton and they were limiting purchases to 1 per person per day. So I had a couple friends buy me a couple boxes for a couple days and now I have a couple thousand rounds.
The're in it for the money plain and simple.
If they can cancel all back orders then can charge the higher price on the new orders.
Bad way to do business, but that seems to be the way they do it.
If this is true, Midway has lost me as a costumer forever.
If they can cancel all back orders then can charge the higher price on the new orders.
Bad way to do business, but that seems to be the way they do it.
If this is true, Midway has lost me as a costumer forever.
