Carrying a double action pistol

[ContinentalOp]

My apologies

No worries.

 

[tbgunner88]

The Beretta 92FS doesn't allow for cocked-and-locked carry.

Exactly. A da/sa pistol should never be carried in single action, that would be a accidental discharge waiting to happen. Round in the chamber, decocked, and with the safety off is fine and how most choose to carry. The term cocked and locked comes from pistols like the single action only 1911, where the safety is on while in single action.

 

[Rastoff]

I carry a 1911 for a reason. I don't like the long DA press of DA/SA guns. I have a co-worker who is crazy fast with his DA/SA though. So, if it works for you, I say go for it.

As has been said, the 92FS is carried with the hammer down and safety off. Make it a habit. Every time you load the gun, decock and then flip the safety back off. The gun was designed to be carried this way.

 

[tops]

This is why I asked you professionals. I change my edc to the new beretta 92fs I recently purchased, and when telling a friend that I was gonna carry it hammer decocked he acted like I was crazy. But the trigger, like you said, only takes a little pressure to set off, and that just didn't seem like a good idea to me. Just wanted to make sure I was on the same page as the rest of you.

A person that tells you to carry it cocked is not your friend. If he carries his cocked you don't want to be his friend. Larry

 

[rwsmith]

Or.....

A person that tells you to carry it cocked is not your friend. If he carries his cocked you don't want to be his friend. Larry

Or just keep your distance and communicate by phone or email.

 

[rwsmith]

It's GREAT.....

It's GREAT to put good thought into this. I'm really tired of looking in the news and seeing about every day that someone has accidentally shot themselves or someone else.

 

[nitesite]

Exactly. A da/sa pistol should never be carried in single action, that would be a accidental discharge waiting to happen. Round in the chamber, decocked, and with the safety off is fine and how most choose to carry. The term cocked and locked comes from pistols like the single action only 1911, where the safety is on while in single action.

Exceptions exist regarding this statement, such as the CZ75 and 75B.

 

[ClayCow]

Craxy to carry it cocked.

 

[loknload]

If I'm carrying an auto I carry like this
Chambered, decocked, safety/decocker off.

Of course if I carry my 36 I have nothing to worry about! ,

 

[BAM-BAM]

This is why I asked you professionals. I change my edc to the new beretta 92fs I recently purchased, and when telling a friend that I was gonna carry it hammer decocked he acted like I was crazy. But the trigger, like you said, only takes a little pressure to set off, and that just didn't seem like a good idea to me. Just wanted to make sure I was on the same page as the rest of you.

I've had Beretta 92s since 1988.....

With an empty gun....... hold the hammer back and move the decocker up and down .......you can see how it rotates the firing pin and puts a "block of steel" between the firing pin and the hammer.

My method of loading...

Put safety/decocker in the down/on position..... insert full mag ..... rack slide....... ((optional) top off mag )....push decocker up...... holster......double check the decocker.

This method never "cocks the hammer" as you chamber a round ( try it without a magazine in the gun) the hammer will follow the slide forward

Double action first shot........like a Smith revolver

Many of us use a Factory D spring ( used in Beretta's DAO guns) in our Beretta DA/SA guns to get a better double action trigger.... about 8lb vs 12lb.....it's a factory part used in the DAO guns Beretta sold to many Police departments in the 80s and 90s.

 

[3dots]

I carry a DAO, chambered, no safety, ready to go...

 

[Florida J Frame]

This is why I asked you professionals. I change my edc to the new beretta 92fs I recently purchased, and when telling a friend that I was gonna carry it hammer decocked he acted like I was crazy. But the trigger, like you said, only takes a little pressure to set off, and that just didn't seem like a good idea to me. Just wanted to make sure I was on the same page as the rest of you.

That's a big gun for CC. How do you carry it?

 

[federali]

Perfect Practice

Over the years, I've trained myself to shoot DAO with my Model 65 revolver, to which I've tuned and polished the action for smoothness. On those occasions when I fire it single action, invariably, the first cylinder full of rounds go off almost unintentionally as I'm so accustomed to DAO.

Posters have offered a number of options for carry. My suggestion is to find the option you're most comfortable with for use and safety, and stick to it. Based upon my experience, I don't think you can be simultaneously and fully competent with both a single and double action trigger system.

 

[Rastoff]

Based upon my experience, I don't think you can be simultaneously and fully competent with both a single and double action trigger system.

Until I went to a class with one co-worker, I would have agreed with you. He used a Sig P229 DA/SA gun. He can put a controlled pair, on target, at 7 yards, less than 2" apart, in under 2 seconds while starting from the holster; first shot DA, second SA. Yes, a person absolutely can be proficient with both DA and SA guns.

Sure we could point out someone like Jerry Miculek as well, but he's a pro. He has plenty of time and ammo to work with. My co-worker is just an average guy who happens to like the DA/SA platform.

So, with practice and dedication, proficiency can be achieved with both. Even for us normal guys.

 

[swar45]

That's a big gun for CC. How do you carry it?

Iwb. I'm a big guy. It works out.

 

[BAM-BAM]

Over the years, I've trained myself to shoot DAO with my Model 65 revolver, On those occasions when I fire it single action, invariably, the first cylinder full of rounds go off almost unintentionally as I'm so accustomed to DAO.

Based upon my experience, I don't think you can be simultaneously and fully competent with both a single and double action trigger system.

Wow.....I think there are a couple of generations of us here...... that grew up and qualified for years shooting double action revolvers..... only using single action for precision long shots.............

The 80s saw us transition to DA/SA autos like the Beretta 92 or any of the 3rd Gen Smiths....... qualifying with a double action first shot.... followed by 1-14 shots single action........it's not hard...... I don't have to think about it ...... it's all muscle memory........

all it takes is practice!!!!!

 

[ContinentalOp]

Exceptions exist regarding this statement, such as the CZ75 and 75B.

True, but those guns have the option of being carried cocked-and-locked, i.e. hammer cocked and manual safety engaged, like the 1911. I believe the Taurus 92 (or was it 99?) and some HK models have the same options.

 

[ISCS Yoda]

Chambered, decocked, safety/decocker off.

There is no other proper way to carry a traditional double action pistol. Period.

 

[ISCS Yoda]

I reiterate my past post - no other PROPER way. To say that there are other ways would be true but a traditional double action pistol is designed to be decocked if it has a decocker. Guns that don't have decockers are different.

TDAs are like revolvers for that first shot. There is NO REASON to circumvent that.

 

[Cheap Shot]

All of my carry guns are DA only.