Carrying at Work.

[MarkDozier]

Outside right ankle?

Golly, how many here did notknow that?

 

[elm_creek_smith]

I open carry at work, and everyone knows it. That's what happens when you carry a four inch S&W Model 686-6 in a black basketweave holster on a duty belt. The uniform and badge might also be a giveaway...

ECS

 

[nipster]

Depends on a lot of things such as:

Your job
- how good is it?
- how well do you like working there
- how hard would it be to get another job
- how hard would it be to get another job as good as you have
- what do you do for a living? white collar / blue collar, is it even safe to carry at your job
- what part of town do you work in, is it dangerous?
- does your company have a policy on weapons in the workplace?
- if they do (negatively), are you willing to lose your job over the right to carry?
- is your state an "at-will" state where you can be fired for any reason? My example would be, even if your company does not have a formal policy on weapons, they can still fire you for any reason

As mentioned, some states have laws which forbid companies from preventing you from having a weapon in your car. Some states even criminalize companies preventing this

So back to all of this, ask yourself this: is it worth losing your job over??

A lot of people will say "better to be tried by 12 than carried by 6", or in your case fired, but if you work in a white collar job, in a nice part of town, you have to realize the chances of a "workplace violence" incident ever happening are pretty low. In a lot of cases astronomically low. Is it worth being fired, your family losing their house and everything else they own because you had to make a point and carry inside your office, "just because".

I dont want to make this a big philosophical thing, but like everything in life, it's a balancing act between what is necessary and what is prudent.

For me, my company has a policy forbidding carrying inside the office or on company property "on your person". Excluding in your vehicle, which is allowed by state law. I also have a white collar job, in a nice part of town. The chances of me needing my handgun is slim to none. We also have armed security guards on-site.

For me, the risk of losing my job outweighs the risk of me needing to use my handgun, so it stays in the car. Period.

You 2nd amendment ninja's can do what you do. Your decision. But if you get thrown out on the street because you are broke and jobless, just ask yourself if it was worth it.

 

[bpeddicord]

I retired from my job at a nuclear plant in 2011 (actually for the 2nd time...long story). I took a job as a security guard at a manufacturing facility just to do something different. It was an unarmed position. No weapons were allowed in the facility. I was assigned the main entrance which is an all glass building with 2 gates on ajoining roads. Post orders were as such: If an armed individual or individuals (not police officers) enter either gate in a vehicle or walking, immediately hit the alarm button and close the gates and notify the local police dept. The doors on the guard shack had no locks, no bullet resistant glass, so I was at any bad guy's mercy. I also had to check each person entering the facility to see if they were properly badged and authorized to enter along with meeting vendors, UPS, USPS, FEDEX, and utility people. Walking up to a dark car at 3:00 in the morning is not fun; often due to tinted windows in the car, I could not see who was driving and how many individuals were in the vehicle. There was a kevlar vest in the storage area of the guard shack. It was a size 3X. Lot of help it would be (I wear a medium vest). After a week, I began carrying my S&W M&P 9MM in a Kramer Tee shirt holster under my uniform shirt, then later proceeded to wear my own personal kevlar vest and carrying a 3" model 65 in a holster velcroed to the protective vest under my shirt. After 3 months of turning away numerous drunks, disgruntled ex employees, and people joy riding in the area at all hours (I worked rotating shifts including the weekends) I decided to give it up. I didn't want to get fired if someone found out I was carrying and I didn't want to put my life in the hands of the local police and a couple of flimsy gates. I feel sorry for the guys who still do this job. They are sitting ducks if someone decides to get revenge on a former boss or employee.

 

[Martya]

Golly, how many here did notknow that?

Nope, read my post.

 

[riverrat38]

I'm prepared to walk if they aren't going to allow me to protect myself. Why work for a company that doesn't put my safety first?

There's absolutely nothing mentioned in the workplace policy about weapons of any kind. The building itself is not posted. I'll take my chances.

Are they legally able to terminate me for something that isn't in a policy?

Yes. As its been explained to me by my former employer, they don't need to give a reason for terminating someone. There are certain reasons that are not allowed by law, such as discrimination under Civil Rights laws, but I am certain those laws don't protect your right to carry on the job. Weather or not your employer wants to terminate someones job when its not covered in their policies is another matter.


Best,
Rick

 

[chief38]

I have carried for 35 years and no one has figured it out yet. If there are no specific laws or Company policy that says you can't - go ahead and carry. Just be discrete and no one will be the wiser. The right gun, the right holster and the correct clothing will insure your secret is well kept.

Chief38

 

[rchance]

Outta sight, outta mind.

Were all out of our minds man. That's why were all sitting here looking at a gun forum on the computer instead of being snuggled up to our women watching Gunsmoke. OK she can watch what she wants to tonight.

 

[Old Unk]

Actions frequently have unintended consequences. Consider that.

Our Uncle provided me with a 1911 at age 18 and paid me to carry while providing food, shelter and clothing.

74 now [retired 14 years]..I carried [or had a firearm in my desk or briefcase] during my work life. Still carry during my not-for-pay work life.

No carry issues whatsoever in the last 56 years...it can be done.

Best.

 

[Sledge276]

1. Model 642 Centennial.
2. Smart Carry.
3. Don't use urinals, ever.
4. Don't tell anyone, ever.
5. Get to work on time.
6. Do a good job.
7. Collect a paycheck.
8. Pay the bills.
9. Retire.
10. Die.

Game over.

I'm confused about number 3...

 

[Sledge276]

As a CO working behind the fence, I can't carry at work.
However, my pastor asked if I had my CCP and said I had his permission to carry at church. When they "hired me" as volunteer security, he pretty much told me to carry.