Carrying in your vehicle without a permit...

I mostly travel with a loaded revolver in the Western Free gun states.
I do not have a concealed permit.
I carry my handgun in a different location than my car paperwork.
So if I am stopped, as I was a while back, retrieving my insurance card and registration does not involve or expose my handgun.

I do the same thing. I have done so for a long time in my work related travels around NM, CO, UT, and AZ.
C. Scott
 
Minnesota likes confusion. We have shall issue permits. You can carry open or concealed. If you are required to carry at work, you can carry in the car to work without the permit. If you are going to the range or hunting, you can carry in the car without a permit. You can carry concealed or open on private property without a permit but with owners permission.
 
. . . Besides--fighting a conviction on the grounds that the law is bad can cost hundreds of thousands of dollars, and many, many hours in court. Being a test case isn't fun, and fails more often than not.

Agreed, although most all who try rarely get the opportunity to spend all that money. They just get dog stomped quickly . . .
 
Minnesota likes confusion.

That don't sound like confusion to me and I must say I'm shocked because of your States political background although I suspect like my State it's mainly nestled in one particular area.
 
Although I do agree that it is easier and usually smarter to go along with the program, that is the reason so many such laws are passedand stay on the books.
Black people all went to the back of the bus, until a tired woman named Rosa Parks said "NO"
Everyone bowed to the king for a long time too.

Not saying I want to be a hero, but, you do get what you're willing to put up with.

Part of the reason I live where I do. Lots of people here do stand up and guess what? Not many silly laws and the ones that are around get ignored.

Most people in our little town don't wear seat belts in town, light, polite, traffic. Nobody gets a ticket for it. If we did the mayor and th Justice of the Peace know we were going to be making some changes. It's your town, our county, our state. NOT THEIRS .
 
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Echoing what others from Texas have said, thanks to the Texas Motorist Protection Act, you are not required to have a permit to carry a firearm in your vehicle, loaded or otherwise. However, if you do so sans permit, the firearm must be concealed. That can be as simple as throwing a jacket over it in the seat. If you don't have a permit (known as LTC in Texas), then obviously nothing is going to come up when they run your DL so the officer probably won't even ask. Personally, I would inform them that I was carrying, just so they'd have all the facts and proceed with the traffic stop accordingly. You don't have to just blurt out something like "I have a gun", but rather something like "Officer, I would like to inform you that I am carrying a firearm in my vehicle". Then he would probably ask where it is and just tell you to leave it there, then proceed with the traffic stop.
 
I am not trying to start an argument here but I was told in CWP class two years ago that unless you are carrying pursuant to the permit, you need not show the permit.

That is correct. Out of courtesy I would give the officer my CWP and inform him that I'm unarmed at this time. It is tied to your drivers license and he/she would be in formed you have a CWP for a traffic stop.
Be careful carrying in the car. A loaded handgun is legal in a latched compartment without a CWP. Your CWP covers on your person or in a bag you intend to exit the vehicle and carry such as a lady's purse. A loaded handgun under a car seat is illegal with or without a CWP.
 
That is correct. Out of courtesy I would give the officer my CWP and inform him that I'm unarmed at this time. It is tied to your drivers license and he/she would be in formed you have a CWP for a traffic stop.

Be careful carrying in the car. A loaded handgun is legal in a latched compartment without a CWP. Your CWP covers on your person or in a bag you intend to exit the vehicle and carry such as a lady's purse. A loaded handgun under a car seat is illegal with or without a CWP.



I think they changed that a year or two ago. The statute now reads:

(Exceptions where allowed)


(9) a person in a vehicle if the handgun is:

(a) secured in a closed glove compartment, closed console, closed trunk, or in a closed container secured by an integral fastener and transported in the luggage compartment of the vehicle; however, this item is not violated if the glove compartment, console, or trunk is opened in the presence of a law enforcement officer for the sole purpose of retrieving a driver's license, registration, or proof of insurance. If the person has been issued a concealed weapon permit pursuant to Article 4, Chapter 31, Title 23, then the person also may secure his weapon under a seat in a vehicle, or in any open or closed storage compartment within the vehicle's passenger compartment; or

(b) concealed on or about his person, and he has a valid concealed weapons permit pursuant to the provisions of Article 4, Chapter 31, Title 23;

See SC CODE 16-23-20


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