Cased pair of S&W Triple Locks (refinished Blue & Nickel)

The issue for me would be to confirm that both are factory refinishes and weren't subsequently finished again. A refinish from 1921 may not be the only one. I'd really want to examine both guns. If they appeared factory re-finishes without later ones too, I'd have no problem paying $5k for that package. . .maybe more. Of course I'm the guy who paid $7750 for my refinished one, and it's even scratched up a little. Enjoy them, wish they were mine.

Jeff
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Taking a different view, what will that $5k be worth a couple years down the road?

I’m not aware of the factory making any more Triple-Locks.

+1! There weren't that many Triplelocks manufactured in the first place, so they are fairly rare and very desirable. Not to mention that IMHO they are some of the finest revolvers ever produced by S&W. I've lusted after a 6-1/2" .44 HE 1st Model (Triplelock) for years now, but I just can't justify the purchase price (either to me or to my wife!). The closest I've come is a 4" .44 HE 3rd Model (W&K Model of 1926). I think you did OK @ $2500 each (with case and goodies), particularly with the very early s/n 62. Both revolvers will continue to appreciate in value...but someday you will have to decide whether to sell them or to pass them down as family heirlooms. Shoot them and enjoy them while you can!
 
Beautiful pistols! Congratulations.

As to value, the way older S&Ws are increasing in price, I don't think you would have trouble getting your money back out of them if necessary - especially if you waited a bit.
 
As far as value down the road, it’s all speculation, but, until recently, I think Triple Lock revolvers have historically been undervalued relative to what they are. During Covid, they increased in value significantly. They used to be about half what a comparable Registered Magnum revolver and now valuations are approaching, or sometimes exceeding, that of a comparable Registered Magnum revolver.

Given that only 15,376 were produced for civilian production, plus over 5000 more for the British Government, there aren’t a whole lot out there to collect, and the stigma against a non factory refinished Triple Lock revolver might not be what it once was.
 
Taking a different view, what will that $5k be worth a couple years down the road?

I’m not aware of the factory making any more Triple-Locks.

That's THE question!! What will that $5k be worth?

Pretty much anybody with the sense God gave a peanut knows inflation is about the money supply being inflated. Increased prices are simply a symptom of the decreased value of the money----the REAL problem!

Just about the first thing you learn in Problem Solving School is to focus on fixing the REAL problem---never mind the symptoms. So how does the money supply get changed? Simple---the folks with the power get "the Fed" to print a bunch more money, in the hope it can be used to stay in power----has something to do with "The hurrieder I go, the behinder I get!"------and the behinder the rest of us get too!!

I wonder what we can do about that---besides getting arrested?

Ralph Tremaine
 
5th set: Pics of Cased pair of S&W Triple Locks (refinished Blue & Nickel)

Franklin Mint S&W revolver style pocket knife
 

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That's THE question!! What will that $5k be worth?

Pretty much anybody with the sense God gave a peanut knows inflation is about the money supply being inflated. Increased prices are simply a symptom of the decreased value of the money----the REAL problem!

I wonder what we can do about that---besides getting arrested?

Ralph Tremaine


"The average Roman only cares about the pebble in his shoe." - Cato the Elder
 
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Living in Allen, Texas you have to be paying a ridiculous amount of property taxes. So, in effect your money does not go as far as nearly anyone else here.

Maybe the Colts seem like a bargain compared to your annual tax bill. My opinion is that they were overpriced by a couple thousand at least. Maybe you think they are a great deal compared to your annual tax bill.
 
Living in Allen, Texas you have to be paying a ridiculous amount of property taxes. So, in effect your money does not go as far as nearly anyone else here.

Maybe the Colts seem like a bargain compared to your annual tax bill. My opinion is that they were overpriced by a couple thousand at least. Maybe you think they are a great deal compared to your annual tax bill.[/quote
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You haven't looked at many nice triple locks lately. . And what does someone's property tax have to do with gun values ?? Have you checked property taxes in New York or even Allegheny County in PA?? The property tax millage in Allen is 43 mils. In the town I lived in in PA, it was 35 mills. But, we paid 1.2% local income tax, 2.3% state income tax...so add 3.5% of your total income to the property tax, and 43 mils might be a bargain..

Or how about Albany New York. Millage rate is 175 mils and 2.O% local tax, and the state gets another 4 to 10%, and triple locks bring about the same $ in all three places.

Robert
 
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Looking at the photographs in the original listing reveals that the cam on the nickel Triple Lock revolver reveals, unfortunately, that it is nickeled. That tells me that this revolver wasn’t refinished by Smith & Wesson, either. Another telltale sign in this area is when viewing the right side of the frame at 90 degrees, straight on, when you look at the frame surrounding that little bit of visible cam, Smith & Wesson gets it right when refinishing by leaving the edges of the frame at this intersection point crisp. So many who refinish outside of the factory overbuff here, leading to soft edges in this area, these being evident with both of your revolvers.

The question seems to be arising as to how much was overpaid for these revolvers and what the future value may be. Here’s a few random thoughts.

1. If one overpays for an item, how long until the break even point or exceeding the price paid, in future? If you use the “Rule of 72”, and if you paid exactly twice what this pair is worth (I’m not saying you did, but this works in my example(, and if the value of Triple Lock revolvers increases in value in line with inflation, which is about 8% now, using the Rule of 72, 72 divided by 8 is 7, which means you are at the break even point in 7 years. I value this pair at greater than half what you paid for them, and if inflation continues at the rate it’s at (let’s hope it doesn’t), you will be at $5000 in well under 7 years.

2. Of course, not all items increase at the rate of inflation. Some more, some less. The goal, of course, is to identify an object that increases at a rate greater than inflation, thereby increasing your gain relative to inflation. This is what folks who invest try to do. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn’t. Often, the crystal ball is cloudy.

3. My observations as to the increase in value of firearms over the last 35 or 40 years, is that they have obviously gone up significantly over this time frame. But, most have gone up less in value than if you took the same amount of money and invested it in the S & P 500 over the same time frame, and never looked back. The only two exceptions I can think of over this time frame are the following: Really high end museum quality firearms, most of which few on this forum can afford: and, possibly, if one invested wisely in firearms at the start of Covid and then valued them now. They might have exceeded in gain that of the S & P 500 over the last 3 1/2 years, but that may have been dampened with the recent gains in the stock market since October.

3. Stocks simply aren’t as much fun. You can’t shoot them, admire them, and you don’t even get a fancy stock certificate to frame anymore, if desired.

4. The real value in firearms is in what would you have done with that money had you not bought the firearm? Bought a car, which usually loses value? Gone out to eat? Went on vacation? Even a firearm that was paid too much for is a concrete object that can be sold, in future.

5. The single best way to exceed the rate of inflation when purchasing a firearm is to identify firearms that are undervalued relative to actual value at the time of purchase. And then sell them immediately, as any future gain will not be nearly the same as the firearm you purchase gained relative to actual value initially. For example, a firearm you can purchase at 50 cents on the dollar, or less, and immediately sell and double your money or more. This is difficult to do. I can pull this off less than once every year these days. You certainly cannot do this in a retail setting or on Gunbroker, unless misidentified/the seller doesn’t know what he has. Gun shows, this can rarely be accomplished, and you usually have to attend early and pounce fast. A dealer buys low and sells high. He has the advantage of someone coming in and they just want to be rid of a valuable firearm quickly, and will accept cents on the dollar just to be rid of it. But, he also has a retail store to maintain and the costs associated with that.
 
I don't know, it has been said that you didn't pay too much, you just bought a few years to early. Thing is they aren't original but once! I'd have to think that for that kind of money you could have bought a very nice original triple lock. I have a problem with the bores being less than mint also. On the other hand 5 grand isn't a lot of money in the collector world!!
 
Here’s one of my Triple Locks. It went back to the factory in 1916 for a reblue so I’m sure that hurts the value a bit. On the plus side it is an excellent shooter and I enjoy taking it to the range and passing it around to let some younger shooters experience shooting a 100+ year old gun. I get way more enjoyment out of this gun than any of my safe queens.
 

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