CCI Stingers in k-22?

[south_ridge]

I have a pre-18 that I picked up a couple of months ago. I've put a hundred or so rounds through it (mostly Federal 40 grain RN and CCI velocity stuff). I really like the gun.

My question is this...do any of you shoot CCI Stingers in your k-22s? If so, what has been your experience? Any drawbacks - extraction, etc.?

I'm looking for something with a bit more authority for the occasional armadillo and such. I know the stingers lose a lot coming out of a 4" barrel, but I've looked at some of the ballistics on the web and they still look like the best bet for my needs.

Any other recommendations would also be appreciated.

Thanks,

SR

 

[DWalt]

I can't answer the specific question, but I do remember when Stingers first came out, there were some warnings of incidents involving firing of Stingers in some semi-auto .22 pistols. I think it had to do with case head blowouts. I can see no reason there would be any problem with firing them in revolvers. If you don't get an authoritative answer here, best to call CCI and ask them.

 

[Erich]

Nothing to worry about. I've shot hundreds of Stingers through my 1947 pre-17. Everything's fine.

Just for kicks, look up the pressure of even a "hyper-velocity" .22 round, and then look at how thick your American steel chamber walls are.

 

[merl67]

If it fits shoot it. The only problem I could see might be extraction but I doubt that would even be a problem unless you already have a problem with that. Remember the 22 mag uses the same frame and cylinder it is just reamed for the magnum round.

 

[rburg]

Its not just thickness. Look at the way the cylinder is constructed. Its the thing we call "pinned and recessed". Even if it blows out, which it probably won't, the entire rim is covered by the cylinder. The K22 is probably the highest form of 22 hand gun. It'll swallow them without a hitch, or should.

What you need to do is try some. Some 22s don't seem to like some brands of ammo. They can hold the cases and not want to let them go. Other guns don't like the velocity and tend to not group them well. That last is a common complaint of the hyper velocity ammo. But if the Stingers don't work well for you, its no reason to give up. Buy the other brands that compete with the stinger and give them a try. You've only got a few bucks per brand to test it.

Or you could go the other way, and shoot target ammo in it. Just for fun, you might test that, too. Remember, they didn't use hollow points on elephants and rhino. They used "solids" to get better penetration and kill the beasts.

 

[steveno]

you might try the CCI Velocitors as they shoot really good in my M-17. it is a 40 grain bullet and does about 1,100 fps from a 6 inch barrel.

 

[mag318]

I've shot Stingers, Velocetors and even Super Colibri through my K22 and never had an ejection or any other kind of problem. From hot to mild the K22 will comfortable digest everything, a testament to how these were built to last.

 

[ma deuce]

The K-22 is way overbuilt for its task. Think about it. You've got the same frame and the same cylinder diameter you've got in the M-19. As far as I know, it's the same steel hardened the same way. If it can stand up to .357, it'll stand up to any .22 rimfire ever made. If there's a failure, it would be a cartridge failure, not the gun.

 

[nedlate]

you might try the CCI Velocitors as they shoot really good in my M-17. it is a 40 grain bullet and does about 1,100 fps from a 6 inch barrel.

My vote is the Velocitor also. You might be pleasantly surprised.
Ed

 

[south_ridge]

Thanks guys. I guess I should have just gone with the standard .22 advice - "Try it, you might like it". Or more appropriately, your gun might like it.

SR

 

[Art Doc]

Stingers are wimpy. I foolishly assumed that with a name like that they would be high velocity but I clocked them from a variety of guns and they ran slower than Remington and Winchester with mundane names.

 

[stacer]

Absolutely safe. They are my standard walking around the woods ammo. I run them thru my 1953 pre 18 all the time.

 

[planojack]

As I recall, the issue with Stingers was that they were a bit hot for one particular firearm. The Llama miniature Govt. Model had a very tight bore that would sometimes boost pressures to the point of case failure. My much loved K22 shoots everything. I would not be even slightly concerned with Stingers.

 

[pilgrim6a]

I tried an old box of Stingers in my model 17-3 beater. This gun has a red dot sight.
The results were horrible. Mechanically they were no problem, but the groups were under one inch at 50 ft!
By far the most accurate load I've fired in this gun.
I say horrible because this stuff cost WAY more than I'm willing to spend on .22s.

 

[Old Corp]

Have shot plenty of the various hyper-velocity stuff in both my M18 and K22. No problems at all, although I did discover that the Aguila .22 'Super Maximum' HP ammo was some of the LEAST accurate stuff I've ever shot, anywhere, anytime. It seems to go fast though - you just can't count on where.

 

[Larry from Bend]

Stingers weren't very accurate in my Models 17, 18 or 34. I use WW Power Points for small game. They expand well out of even a 4" barrel.

 

[ImprovedModel56Fan]

K-22? I shoot Stingers in my pre-34, along with other CCI ammo, especially Blazer. This is a gun that has serious extraction problems with non-CCI ammo, except for Western Match MkIII and various Long (NOT Long Rifle) cartridges. I think the brass at the mouth may be heavier or stronger with the CCI LR ammo, but that's just a guess. With the Stinger I reckon the nickel plating doesn't hurt. Anyway, I certainly wouldn't worry about factory ammo in a K-22, especially if it can be extracted.

 

[jaymoore]

This is a gun that has serious extraction problems with non-CCI ammo... I think the brass at the mouth may be heavier or stronger with the CCI LR ammo, but that's just a guess. With the Stinger I reckon the nickel plating doesn't hurt. Anyway, I certainly wouldn't worry about factory ammo in a K-22, especially if it can be extracted.

I don't know if CCI still manufactures the cases the same way now, but for the longest time they advertised an internal case belt constuction for greater resistance to distortion just forward of the rim. Supposedly it also increased ignition reliability.

Just the thing for .22s that have dramas with extraction or case head blow outs. It didn't always mask the problem, but it seemed to help in many instances.

 

[BruceB]

Somewhere back in ancient history on this forum is a thread started by me about CCI high velocity .22 rounds making a mess of a nice late 60s Model 41.

The case head ruptured, ruining both grip panels and an original magazine, not to mention a seriously bruised hand.

However, I don't think the high velocity rounds will damage your K-22, but a case head separation might be exciting.