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Friends & family are O.K. (obviously.) I figured it was a given.

I was referring to the jokers that go around flashing it in public.

Ahh I see, I didn't realise there were people that actually did that, it's probably an ego thing.
 
Not trying to hijack the thread but got a question for ya TLG. How is it getting a CCL in WV? I plan on getting mine ASAP. Where did you take your class at, and if you dont mind me asking how much did it cost? I live in Logan county.

I dunno about cost and where as I live up north and got mine in Parkersburg,but my private class was,oh,$100 something? but a reg class is like $75 to $95

Pass that then get your certificate from the instructor,go to the local Sheriff present the certificate and you'll get some papers to sign/fill out then hand it back a few minutes later,and go sit and wait for them to call you over in another few minutes,they'll take a picture of your ugly mug and tell you in a week or so the sheriff will sign off and they'll make and mail you a nice card saying you're trusted enough to carry a gun.

At least that's what I did in Ritchie county,I suspect it's the same in all of WV.

Make sense?

And I've never shown my card to any but two friends,told a couple guys I know I've acquired one as I'd been talking about but that's it,you're crazy if you show it off.

But i did use it to open a new PO Box a few weeks back as I'm getting ready to move,guy said I needed two ID's/papers to show where I lived,I asked if two picture ID's would work-sure did,I assured him I wasn't carrying in the PO though :D
 
I think the best plan is to NEVER let anyone know you have a CHL and are "Carrying".

Also if you Google WalMart shootings, you will see that Walmarts are some of the most dangerous places to go on the Planet...

I NEVER go to WalMart with less than 2 Guns, and Lots of bullets...

I went there today...
 
I think the best plan is to NEVER let anyone know you have a CHL and are "Carrying".

Also if you Google WalMart shootings, you will see that Walmarts are some of the most dangerous places to go on the Planet...

A Wal-mart parking lot has to be one of the most dangerous places there are...especially at night.
 
I found that once I was able to legally carry I began to consciously avoid situations where it may be necessary. Not really changing lifestyle or anything, just being aware of the responsibility and not wanting to put myself needlessly in a situation where I cause an incident. I think I'm a much more laid back driver now too. Maybe it's having the means to protect myself and family I don't need to get agressive if someone cuts me off or passes on the right when the road narrows. I just back off, give them room and smile knowing that somewhere down the road they will meet up with someone who isn't as accomodating. The gun is to protect our lives and not to gain the upper hand in a needless argument.
 
I got the state-issued ID card and had them put the CCW endorsement on it. No one has the need to ever see it other than a LEO. I have other ID's if anyone needs to see two.

And my first carry was actually in a Subway sandwich shop that same night... walked in and there were two Sheriffs deputies and two Highway patrol officers sitting there having a bite... now, I was sure that they couldn't tell that I was carrying, but still nervous as a long tailed cat in a room full of rockin chairs... now I almost forget that it's there, no one looks at anyone these days it seems.
 
I found that once I was able to legally carry I began to consciously avoid situations where it may be necessary. Not really changing lifestyle or anything, just being aware of the responsibility and not wanting to put myself needlessly in a situation where I cause an incident. I think I'm a much more laid back driver now too. Maybe it's having the means to protect myself and family I don't need to get agressive if someone cuts me off or passes on the right when the road narrows. I just back off, give them room and smile knowing that somewhere down the road they will meet up with someone who isn't as accomodating. The gun is to protect our lives and not to gain the upper hand in a needless argument.

Thank you, nostraDONus for posting this....
You've done this forum a great service. You worded it so perfectly and really painted the perfect picture.
I feel that this post should virtually be mandatory reading for anyone about to be issued a CWP.

Again, thank you.
 
I found that once I was able to legally carry I began to consciously avoid situations where it may be necessary. Not really changing lifestyle or anything, just being aware of the responsibility and not wanting to put myself needlessly in a situation where I cause an incident. I think I'm a much more laid back driver now too. Maybe it's having the means to protect myself and family I don't need to get agressive if someone cuts me off or passes on the right when the road narrows. I just back off, give them room and smile knowing that somewhere down the road they will meet up with someone who isn't as accomodating. The gun is to protect our lives and not to gain the upper hand in a needless argument.

Well said... Now take a look at this post from a knucklehead on another forum.

... I brandished my firearm once to stop a rapidly escalating road rage incident. It worked, but a few miles down the road being arrested at gunpoint has kept me leary ever since. I got a misdemeanor for disorderly conduct, even though he was trying to force me off the road. Bulls#it judge let the case stick, didn't even take into account I was protecting my own life. I had to pay a fine, community service, and probation.

Now I've got a 1 year old son, so it's about time to get one of those quick access safes to keep by the bedside. Just letting it stay in the nightstand drawer isn't an option anymore.
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And then take a look at his explanation when called out for being ignorant.

That was your mistake you should have known better…
How so?

Holding up a firearm still in it's holster not pointed directly at the road rager is far less what could be considered "brandishing". Just letting him know there's a problem with his plans if he wants to continued trying to wreck me.

Being forced off the road seems like a good time to hold up you arm as a deterrent... isn't that the point of carrying... to protect yourself from imminent danger?
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And the this.

How so?? Look what it got you for starters..


That was not a life-threatening event, you could have done a couple things besides showing a gun holstered or not… Sorry but I think the Judge was correct on this one…

Okay.... when someone else's car is halfway in your lane, and half of your car is on the grass while doing 50 mph and there's no shoulder.... and at any moment you'll be skidding towards a tree..... make sure you remember to yourself that you shouldn't brandish your weapon to deter the maniac.
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Sorry, but your comments have the taint of hypocrisy. Peace out.
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Wow, simply, wow; dude does not get it.

Be safe

PS:

This wasn't from another gun forum...was a car forum.
 
You got that right, no clue. How about a simple, slow down and let the other idiot go. Of course we only hear his side, and it's pretty bogus. He should have lost his carry permit as well.
 
I found that once I was able to legally carry I began to consciously avoid situations where it may be necessary. Not really changing lifestyle or anything, just being aware of the responsibility and not wanting to put myself needlessly in a situation where I cause an incident. I think I'm a much more laid back driver now too. Maybe it's having the means to protect myself and family I don't need to get agressive if someone cuts me off or passes on the right when the road narrows. I just back off, give them room and smile knowing that somewhere down the road they will meet up with someone who isn't as accomodating. The gun is to protect our lives and not to gain the upper hand in a needless argument.

This is not directed at anyone on this forum.

I was going to say what you said above, but didn't have the guts as I am a relatively new member here. Many years ago, I carried a firearm 'federally;' legally didn't necessarily need to register it, didn't need a 'permit'; as long as it was a 'firearm' it was legit and superseded all state and US-possession laws. That was a long time ago.

Now that I have just attended my first CCW class, I am reminded of the totally sobering experience that comes to some people (hopefully more than I am led to believe) when they are enfranchised to carry something hidden that can take a life in less than an instant.

Again, I don't direct this to anyone here at all - but there are many who regard a CCW as a hedge against being "f'ed" with. It is sometimes evident even in LEO who have (and even often maintain) a 'Wyatt Earp' syndrome.

If a CCW is to protect my right or choice to live peacefully and be able to protect myself and those I love from harm, then that is all it is. I thot for a long time about even applying for one; not only because I didn't want to believe the current conditions in our country actually proclaim that it is "better to have it than not have it" but that the truly current minority in America are the people who love their families and the police cannot always protect everyone's family against all negative possibilities. At the same time, along with that permit, I believe we must also adopt an even deeper sense of tolerance, humility and, perhaps most especially, foresight than we had before ever being 'permitted' and I also hope and wish that I personally never have to use mine when I do get it.

It is is probably impossible to explain to most people what goes thru one's mind in that nanosecond prior to pulling the trigger on another human being. IMO, those who think they would relish such thoughts are either imbeciles or fools whose attitudes fall into the laps of all anti-gunners not to mention representing a warped sense of empowerment..

A gun is a tool. Of course. So is a car. Drivers licenses are often as easy to get as are CCWs nowadays. But how many people you have seen driving cars would you trust to drive your loved ones around?

And if this view offends anyone, I really could care less.
 
This is not directed at anyone on this forum.

I was going to say what you said above, but didn't have the guts as I am a relatively new member here. Many years ago, I carried a firearm 'federally;' legally didn't necessarily need to register it, didn't need a 'permit'; as long as it was a 'firearm' it was legit and superseded all state and US-possession laws. That was a long time ago.

Now that I have just attended my first CCW class, I am reminded of the totally sobering experience that comes to some people (hopefully more than I am led to believe) when they are enfranchised to carry something hidden that can take a life in less than an instant.

Again, I don't direct this to anyone here at all - but there are many who regard a CCW as a hedge against being "f'ed" with. It is sometimes evident even in LEO who have (and even often maintain) a 'Wyatt Earp' syndrome.

If a CCW is to protect my right or choice to live peacefully and be able to protect myself and those I love from harm, then that is all it is. I thot for a long time about even applying for one; not only because I didn't want to believe the current conditions in our country actually proclaim that it is "better to have it than not have it" but that the truly current minority in America are the people who love their families and the police cannot always protect everyone's family against all negative possibilities. At the same time, along with that permit, I believe we must also adopt an even deeper sense of tolerance, humility and, perhaps most especially, foresight than we had before ever being 'permitted' and I also hope and wish that I personally never have to use mine when I do get it.

It is is probably impossible to explain to most people what goes thru one's mind in that nanosecond prior to pulling the trigger on another human being. IMO, those who think they would relish such thoughts are either imbeciles or fools whose attitudes fall into the laps of all anti-gunners not to mention representing a warped sense of empowerment..

A gun is a tool. Of course. So is a car. Drivers licenses are often as easy to get as are CCWs nowadays. But how many people you have seen driving cars would you trust to drive your loved ones around?

And if this view offends anyone, I really could care less.

This is an excellent post and I'd be shocked if anyone here would be offended by even a single word of it. If by some chance they were, well, you said it . . .
 
You guys above have expressed my views as well. Well done.

I am relatively new to this, but I do read many posts from folks whose cavalier attitude about this subject is pretty disconcerting. Its almost like a 16 year old who just got their drivers license and first car, who now wants to pile all their friends in and go "cruise" the town to show off their knew liberty.

I think that this freedom that we here cherish should be treated with the utmost respect and dignity. It troubles me to hear about those who suddenly feel empowered, or have a new swagger to their walk, or maybe think of CC as some sort of cure for "little man syndrome". It is people like that, who claim they are just exercising their rights, that worry me just as much as the bad guys out there. A knucklehead carrying legally but with misguided intentions is, IMO, just as dangerous as a criminal with bad intentions.

As it has been said already, a CCP is a tool. And that tool should be used responsibly, and possessed by someone with the proper mindset and expectations. A CCP should not empower you, but provide you comfort and a certain level of awareness.
 
Im not a person who carries to just to have one on my side. I mainly got mine cause it will make it alot faster and easyer to buy guns. I now do not have to have an FBI background check to buy a new gun. I have yet to carry to Wal Mart and probably never will but I will carry when I have to go to an area of my state that has alot of crime. This is not an area I go to by choice. I is an area I have to take the grandson to be treated.It is sad that I have to have a gun in this area to protect my family when I have to go there but I do and I will do what I have to to protect my family. I hope I never have to even pull the gun from the holster to defend my family.
 
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