CDNN are they really new?

[PX15]

JMOfartO:

Well, I wouldn't worry about the CDNN S&W 6906's cause they "be all sold"...

I managed to snag one tho, and it came NIB with the blue plastic case, numbered and lettered to the pistol. It was wrapped in the S&W factory logo oil paper and as far as I'm concerned it is new...

I've also bought 3 HK P7's from Neal(Ray) at CDNN and two came "as new", and was was NIB.. As advertised.

My local dealer bought three of the surplus Sig P6's and immediately added $100.00 to the price and placed them in the glass case to sell.

I am more than pleased with CDNN. They offer great prices, and stand behind what they sell. When you are buying surplus stock that has been in the "system" for a decade or two chances are a mistake or two might happen, but if the seller stands behind the merchandise, what's the problem.

Crap, I'm considering buying one of the 5906's before they're gone.

Just personal opinion, no offense intended.

Jesse

 

[WaterburyBob]

Originally posted by CarbineKid:
My 5906 came in from CDNN today. It is indeed new. Its also filthy, and bone dry. I think its been sitting in a warehouse for a loooong time. The egg shell foam in the case, is almost flat...from storage I guess. I wonder when it was made...does anyone know? My serial # starts out the same as the one pictured above.
Anyhow at $399 he guns a steal.

I ordered a CDNN 5906, and it arrived yesterday. It is definitely brand new, was bone-dry, but it was actually immaculately clean inside and out. It came in a blue plastic S&W box.

My question is, are these standard 5906 markings? Something seems different about them, but I don't know what.

 

[remat457]

I sent back a S&W 65 that CDNN assured me was a round butt (I asked specifically before buying) and it was supposed to be in excellent condition. It was neither.

I had an RMA from their sales manager for full refund INCLUDING shipping BOTH ways.

I sent it back and it took about 2 months but I got most of my money back. This was after countless calls to them and the elusive "returns dept". I never actually got my shipping back.

As they say, buyer beware.

 

[shawn mccarver]

Originally posted by Mr. Wonderful:
Friends,

I've purchased a couple of guns (all new items), and a TON of mags from CDNN over the last couple of years... and never had a problem.

One example: a model 296 new, in original box, etc. for $370. I wish I would have bought more.

Anyway, the guy (salesman) I prefer to deal with is a gent named Neil (maybe spelled Neal). He's always been very up front and helpful. If you're going to call, I suggest you ask to speak with him. For the record, I'm not associated with CDNN or anything like that.

Best wishes,

Roger a.k.a. Mr. Wonderful

Let us all understand a few things about CDNN:

1. They are NOT a regular S&W distributor.
2. They ARE a liquidator.
3. They buy overstock or left overs from retail dealers, other distributors, LE agencies, or anyone else that has ANYTHING they think they can turn a profit with, including magnifying glasses, bird watching stuff and so forth.
4. They ROUTINELY take the supplied extra magazines out of makes for which they are not a regular distributor (they do not do this, as near as I can tell, with FN products as they are an FN distributor/dealer and are by contract expected to see FN product as FN advertises it). This is, in part, how they have such a large magazine inventory, and why many extra mags you can buy from them are not in factory packaging, but in generic bags that say "Factory original" or "OEM" or similar.
5. They also buy provate collections and will advertise and sell the S&Ws as "New in the Box" even though they came from the estate of a collector, etc. I know this first hand.
6. I recently received what was advertised as NIB 5946 and 5943, and neither were NIB. One was not even in its original box, but was in a plastic box for a J frame. Neither had all of the appropriate literature and neither had the trigger lock, etc. In fairness, both looked like they could pass for new, but without all literature and without original boxes, they were not what I thought. They gave me a return authorization and refunded almost all of my money (they kept $35.00 or so - I suppose a 10% restocking fee or shipping or something - I was just happy to get my money back).
7. I purcahsed a supposedly NIB Model 13 3 inch from CDNN and although it was in the correct two piece box, it could in no way qualify as NIB as the trigger pull is so light it is obvious that springs have been chopped, replaced, etc. (no the strain screw is not loose). I was really pissed about this, but kept the revolver and will send it S&W and let S&W restore it.
8. I have purchased many guns from CDNN over the years, but have come to the conclusion that: (1) their magazines are way overpriced (I have an FFL and their mags are always higher than I can buy them for), although I admit they are much lower than retail, (2) always ask how many mags you get when you order a pistol from them, (3) make sure the mags they ship are factory originals - I know that they have been known to put Mec-Gar branded mags or some other aftermarket mags in with guns, (4) always assume than any gun they have was acquired as part of someone else's liquidation or a LE agency trade in (even LE agencies trade in unissued guns), (5) the only gun they should advertise as NIB is one they got from S&W, and otherwise they should advertise where they got them, or at least say they are trades, liquidations, etc., (6) they seem willing to refund money if the purchaser is not satisfied, (7) I have only had the two questionable transactions with CDNN over the years, however, those were enough to make me very cautious in the future - no I just assume that I am not really getting NIB no matter what they say, and then I am not disappointed, (8) My sales person, Seth, is above reproach, and quickly made good on the transaction with the two S&Ws.
9. I would and have bought from CDNN since the transaction with the 5946 and 5943, however, I now do so with the understanding that whatever S&Ws I buy there are not really ever NIB as CDNN did not really get them from the factory as they are not an S&W distributor. The one exception is the occasional S&W vault clear-out, the last one of which was 2 or 3 years ago. CDNN's advertising on that sale was much different as they used S&Ws assigned SKU numbers.
10. When buying from CDNN, ask alot of questions, and assume it is used. Then you will not be disappointed.

 

[PX15]

JMOfartO:

The heading at the top of the CDNN catalog says:
"America's Largest Hunting Sports Wholesale LIQUIDATOR"

Page 131 Explains all of the rules and regulations such as the buyer has a three day "inspection" period for defective merchandise", and the buyer must pay a 15% "restocking fee", and return shipping.

Sounds about right to me.

A prospective customer knows up front that he is buying merchandise that is being liquidated. He knows that if it's defective he/she has three days to return it, no problem, but will incur a 15% restocking fee, and must pay for return shipping.

If those conditions don't appeal to you, don't buy from CDNN.

SO FAR I have never purchased one item from CDNN that I did not feel I had received precisely what I ordered, and paid less for it from them than I would have paid anywhere else.

As to the number of magazines you get when you buy a pistol from CDNN. You get the number they advertise. Obviously CDNN is marketing as low a price as they can figure out a way to put on whatever it is they are selling, and if removing a magazine and dropping the price another $20-40 makes business sense to them, it works for me.

I don't know why anyone would be satisfied with only one magazine for a pistol, but if one magazine is advertised that's the deal. IF you want extras, buy 'em. They're right there in the catalog.

CDNN sells a LOT of stuff. They didn't get to be the largest wholesale liquidator in the country by screwing customers.

I'm of the opinion that CDNN makes an honest effort to sell precisely what they advertise. No doubt sometimes mistakes are made, but betcha' if CDNN makes a mistake they will try to make it right. The reason they will try and make it right is because it's good business...

I've yet to hear from some dissatisfied CDNN customer posting they got a screw job from CDNN, and CDNN absolutely refused to make it right.

We all know you cannot satisfy all the people all of the time, but it seems CDNN does have a good reputation overall, and they try to do right.

That's all you can ask.

I could be wrong, been wrong before, but so far CDNN has treated me right.

Just personal opinion, contrary opinions welcomed.

Best Wishes,

Jesse

 

[BighandEd]

my last purchase from them was a 4006 deal.. I requested a really clean one and paid the extra for a "like new ".
I was surprised when my gun arrived..looking as though it had never been fired nor carried..I'm guessing it was in the duty armory, but never made it to the street. I was very pleased. If the many slightly used mags I've bought from them..only one seems to have a questionably weak spring maing it a range mag rather than something I'd depend on as it is more like 90% instead of 100% reliable as the others have been. Nuttin but good experiences and exceeding my expectations from them.
If I was into 9mm I'd have already grabbed one of those deals you got.

 

[animalmother]

Bought many guns from CDNN during the 12 years I had an FFL (1994-2006). Never had any problems.

 

[remat457]

Originally posted by PX15:
Page 131 Explains all of the rules and regulations such as the buyer has a three day "inspection" period for defective merchandise", and the buyer must pay a 15% "restocking fee", and return shipping.

I guess my problem is that their salesman was flat out wrong about the product. So much so that the sales manager authorized return without restock fee and a return on shipping both ways.

Two months later I got most my money back, but never shipping. Two months for a refund is ridiculous especially when they had the item back and signed for in 2 days.

I have ordered numerous times from them without any problem. I guess my point is, just be 100% sure of what you are getting, or you may be waiting a while to get your money back.

 

[GZO]

Just bought my first NIB S&W 5906 from CDNN... and it WAS totally brand new (tho made in 2006)... in the box, with paper-work and everything! Could care less where it came from, or who had it... IT WAS NIB!!!
Very prompt service (FFL had it in 2 days), very courteous salesman (Seth), ZERO problems!!! Would definitely order from them again... and will!

 

[bmcgilvray]

I'm thinking they've been in business a long time, being formerly known as West Texas Wholesale. I've never heard anything but good from the company over many years. I've ordered from them on occasion and have found them to be more satisfying than most similar establishments.

 

[RRH]

After becoming satisfied from reading the discussions here in the forum that S&W emphasis would be on polymer frames and 1911's, I decided to invest in the 3rd generation pistols before they became scarce. I have purchased a "Brand New In Factory Case" 5906, an "Excellent To Like New" 4006, and an "Excellent To Like New" 4013 from CDNN. I am very pleased with each one and feel that all were very accurately described. My experience leads me to believe that if you deal with the same salesperson, they will hand select for you rather than just grabbing one off the shelf. There is a gentleman on the Ruger forum (don't ban me for mentioning them), that routinely mentions to ask for Seth. Stock up before November, just in case.

 

[Landpimp]

same with HK LE sales, they come with 3 mags, come direct from HK to the LE dealer, then to the end agency(AFAIK LE can not order direct from HK). same with S&W LE sales....at least with my local LE dealer, do to his LE/Mil contract with S&W, HK and others, he can not sell to the public as well he can only sell/stock certain S&W's per the contract....so he cant say order a 617 or what have you.

Originally posted by 1006TSW:
S&W ships LE guns with 3 magazines. If the guns are 'less expensive' and only come with 1 magazine, how much does it cost to replace the 2 missing magazines with NEW mags? Is that worth the difference in price?

EVERY new LE S&W or Glock that I've ever purchased came with 3 mags, in a factory sealed box.

 

[remat457]

As a followup to my negative experience, I just received a mag/accessory order from CDNN that was flawless--shipped fast and they were very friendly and professional.

 

[mp357]

Originally posted by Landpimp:
same with HK LE sales, they come with 3 mags, come direct from HK to the LE dealer, then to the end agency(AFAIK LE can not order direct from HK). same with S&W LE sales....at least with my local LE dealer, do to his LE/Mil contract with S&W, HK and others, he can not sell to the public as well he can only sell/stock certain S&W's per the contract....so he cant say order a 617 or what have you.

Originally posted by 1006TSW:

EVERY new LE S&W or Glock that I've ever purchased came with 3 mags, in a factory sealed box.

LE Blue Label sub compact glocks (26,27,33,39) only come with 2 (two) mags.

 

[PX15]

FWIW:

I received my S&W 3913LS a couple of days ago. I ordered it from my CDNN salesman (Neal Ray). It was advertised as NIB, and arrived that way.

NIB w/2mags & Lifetime warranty from S&W. $499.99 +shipping. ($22.50). This pistol's last advertised retail selling price was $909.00.

This is my third CDNN 3rd gen. S&W recently purchased and all three (5906/6906/3913LS)came NIB.

The 5906/6906 were mfg. in 2007, the LS 2/08.

Jesse

 

[mp357]

I picked up my 6906 that my dealer got from CDNN a while back. The gun was unfired, made 4/27/06 and while the gun was not 100 % virgin pristine, it looked new with 2 1/2 years worth of handling from some point in it's life. Came with one LE marked mag papers and numbered box. At 10 yards, its a one hole shooter & for the $450 I paid for it, a bargin...Picked up 2 spare mags at the cop shop for 2 for $35, so I'm ahead on mags too...