Charlie Kirk Shot
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I don't think it is a left vs right thing. It is a 'chip on the shoulder' thing. There is plenty of that on both sides.
And here it is...the stupid, idiotic, moronic post of the day!
I'm listening to the Dan Abrams Show right now on the Sirius XM POTUS channel, and he has nailed it: This outrageous crime is not only tragic for Charlie Kirk and his supporters, but very, very dangerous for our country. It was nothing less than an assault on that most fundamental of our rights — free speech — and that should worry us all.
Increasingly in this country, we are seeing politically-motivated attacks on candidates, elected officials, and other public figures, on both sides of the political aisle, from both sides of the political aisle. People get angry and upset at "the other side", while denying any responsibility for their own roles in cranking up the heat…which means the problem can't be resolved. I really fear for the future of our country…
Increasingly in this country, we are seeing politically-motivated attacks on candidates, elected officials, and other public figures, on both sides of the political aisle, from both sides of the political aisle. People get angry and upset at "the other side", while denying any responsibility for their own roles in cranking up the heat…which means the problem can't be resolved. I really fear for the future of our country…
Terry G
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He died almost instantly and they are looking for the shooter, a picture has been posted of a rail thin White Male. The last news was the shot was from a bolt action rifle at 200 yards, the weapon was recovered.
The Last Standing Knight
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I loved watching his calm, cool, polite demeanor when discussing issues while the people voicing those issues would go into full chernobyl/fukushima level meltdown. THAT was entertainment! Talk about triggered!
Personally...I completely reject any suggestions that incidents like this are coming from both sides of the political extremes...one side seems hell bent on turning these acts into a plank in their platform. Some are going so far as to compare this to Jan 6th...as if a guy with face paint and a buffalo hat desecrating pelosis chair in on par with assassination.
Terry G
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I didn't care for him or Trump, but this is not the way we are. Assassinations aren't the way Americans do things. We are a Nation of laws and violence should not ever be used for retribution or gain. I look at his Family and it breaks my heart.
Respectfully…
On January 6th, there were people roaming the halls of Congress chanting the name of the then-Speaker of the House, looking to harm her, while others were calling for the hanging of the sitting Vice-President.
In October of 2022, the husband of the former Speaker was attacked in his home and beaten with a hammer.
Last April, a suspect set fire to the Pennsylvania Governor's Mansion in an attempt to kill him.
In June of this year, a member of the Minnesota House of Representatives and her husband were shot dead, and a State Senator and his wife were wounded.
The above attacks were perpetrated by suspects who were all on one side of the ideological aisle…and it wasn't the one you're referencing.
Too many people in this country today perceive a license to use violence to achieve their political or sociological goals…
What he had was the charisma and personality to sway young minds, as evidenced by the number of young people in that crowd. His influence over young people could not be tolerated by those who were losing their influence over those young people.
When I speak of "the other side", I speak not of political left or right, but of evil and good. I believe most of us here and in the nation as a whole stand on the side of good. Those who would try to tear down, destroy, malign and murder stand on the side of evil. Foreign, domestic, Christian or any other religion are all irrelevant. It all boils down to good vs evil, whatever names we choose to hang on it.
No one's First Amendment rights were violated in any way by this clown getting fired.
Nope.
Charlie Kirk spewed no hatred that I ever heard. What are you referring to?
I don't think the Paul Pelosi incident was at all political. In fact we probably don't want to know what was going on there.
The fact that such an evil act, intended perhaps as much against ideology as the person, happened on a university campus is appalling. And telling.
Having recently concluded over 30 years of collegiate teaching, I can attest to the intolerant vitriol that has crept in and overtaken academia and campus life.
I had some students with whom we had talked about forming a chapter of Turning Point USA on campus. However, as plans were openly discussed, the students began to feel intimidated by harassment. And, this is including from some faculty and staff. So, the idea was abandoned.
Some of you might be even more shocked to know this was at a church affiliated private college right here in Clinton, SC!
Academic standards have collapsed in all aspects of college & university life. Everywhere you look: student recruitment, faculty hiring practices, research, social activities, classroom discussions, student learner outcomes …. It's everywhere.
Many of the values we embrace as citizens and Americans are being steadily attacked and replaced. And, we're paying for it everyday, not just through tuition money, but through our taxes!
Charlie Kirk was one of the most effective advocates to reverse this decline and return colleges and universities to being places of higher learning. He did this through reasoned and respectful dialogue. And, isn't that what should be the norm on a university campus?
What a tragic irony that those unable to articulate their own ideas have to resort to murder, and on a university campus.
Having recently concluded over 30 years of collegiate teaching, I can attest to the intolerant vitriol that has crept in and overtaken academia and campus life.
I had some students with whom we had talked about forming a chapter of Turning Point USA on campus. However, as plans were openly discussed, the students began to feel intimidated by harassment. And, this is including from some faculty and staff. So, the idea was abandoned.
Some of you might be even more shocked to know this was at a church affiliated private college right here in Clinton, SC!
Academic standards have collapsed in all aspects of college & university life. Everywhere you look: student recruitment, faculty hiring practices, research, social activities, classroom discussions, student learner outcomes …. It's everywhere.
Many of the values we embrace as citizens and Americans are being steadily attacked and replaced. And, we're paying for it everyday, not just through tuition money, but through our taxes!
Charlie Kirk was one of the most effective advocates to reverse this decline and return colleges and universities to being places of higher learning. He did this through reasoned and respectful dialogue. And, isn't that what should be the norm on a university campus?
What a tragic irony that those unable to articulate their own ideas have to resort to murder, and on a university campus.
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To whom, exactly, are you referring?
You should probably elaborate on exactly what the hell you're trying to say.
UncleEd
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It is my opinion--repeat, my opinion--that when or if everything might be known of the assassination, then not one viewpoint or opinion will be changed here. And if or when
another such tragedy occurs, the same viewpoints and opinions will be expressed again.
another such tragedy occurs, the same viewpoints and opinions will be expressed again.
Don't forget the racist hatebags who killed only black folks en masse, one group at Sunday School and another group at a grocery store.Respectfully…
On January 6th, there were people roaming the halls of Congress chanting the name of the then-Speaker of the House, looking to harm her, while others were calling for the hanging of the sitting Vice-President.
In October of 2022, the husband of the former Speaker was attacked in his home and beaten with a hammer.
Last April, a suspect set fire to the Pennsylvania Governor's Mansion in an attempt to kill him.
In June of this year, a member of the Minnesota House of Representatives and her husband were shot dead, and a State Senator and his wife were wounded.
The above attacks were perpetrated by suspects who were all on one side of the ideological aisle…and it wasn't the one you're referencing.
Too many people in this country today perceive a license to use violence to achieve their political or sociological goals…
My experience is that the person resorting to violence is not smart enough or intellectually mature enough to handle the situation or dispute someone's opinion. Charlie Kirk was a genius. Well versed in the constitution. History, and the Bible. Those that could not debate him with facts hated him.I'm listening to the Dan Abrams Show right now on the Sirius XM POTUS channel, and he has nailed it: This outrageous crime is not only tragic for Charlie Kirk and his supporters, but very, very dangerous for our country. It was nothing less than an assault on that most fundamental of our rights — free speech — and that should worry us all.
Increasingly in this country, we are seeing politically-motivated attacks on candidates, elected officials, and other public figures, on both sides of the political aisle, from both sides of the political aisle. People get angry and upset at "the other side", while denying any responsibility for their own roles in cranking up the heat…which means the problem can't be resolved. I really fear for the future of our country…
The Last Standing Knight
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Might I suggest that you google a case here in Texas at Texas State University: "Texas State University fires Associate Professor for Controversial Statements inciting violence". That should answer any questions. It did for me.
You would be wrong. Please bother to check the court documents.
DePape, a Canadian citizen who has been living in the U.S. for years, admitted during his federal trial that he planned to hold Nancy Pelosi hostage, record his interrogation of her, and "break her kneecaps" if she did not admit to the lies he said she told about "Russiagate," a reference to the investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 presidential campaign.
Man serving 30 years for attacking Nancy Pelosi’s husband gets a life term on state charges
The man who was sentenced to 30 years in federal prison for attacking the husband of former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi with a hammer in their California home has been given a life term without the possibility of parole following a separate state trial.
apnews.com
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I would think that the meaning of my statement would be clear to any thinking person.
Generally speaking when you act with kindness and tolerance toward others that is how you are treated in return and the reverse is also true.
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I consider condemning and encouraging the persecution of others simply because they live, think, or believe differently from you to be hatred.
Devaluing human life and human worth is precisely how you encourage murder, whether the rationalization is personal, racial, religious, or political.
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I agree.
Back in June a Minnesota Senator and his wife were shot and wounded in their home, on the same evening the Minnesota House Leader was shot and killed at home, her husband was shot but survived. Hardly a blip on the radar....There was very little outrage over this heinous event that occurred in their homes.
Dont get me wrong, violence is never justified, some people believe that occasionally people get killed in shootings but that is necessary in order to preserve the 2nd Amendment, Ironic isn't it?
Dont get me wrong, violence is never justified, some people believe that occasionally people get killed in shootings but that is necessary in order to preserve the 2nd Amendment, Ironic isn't it?
There was no valid rationale to murder Charlie Kirk.
He was a beacon of light, trying to turn our youth towards God.
Charlie Kirk certainly didn't do any of that. Who has been doing this? You seem to have difficulty making a clear point.
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