Church shooting in Charleston,SC

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Dylann Roof now joins a long and ever-expanding list of other killers who were either taking psychiatric drugs or withdrawing from them at the time they committed mass murder.

your probably right.
anyone who has a view of the problem would understand he gunned down the ones that needed to be liberated rather than eradicated. Very little rationality in his selection process if a target is to be selected at all.


anywho ... I have a few good wheezin geezer calibers to fall back on after all the auto pistol and battle rifle rounds leave the shelves ... again.
Hope yall made similar observations and made similar preparations .... this whole scrub the range trip due to lack of ammo thing is getting old.
 
The pictures of this creep are interesting. Looks like lots of blood on his right shoulder and arm. I hope its leaking out of him, but I suspect it belongs to one of the victims.

Looks like a groin protector for body armor hanging down in front, too.

I hope Mr Roof will meet a very loud end.
he was arrested at a traffic stop with no injuries-where is this post coming from?

If you read the comments of the uncle(Mom's brother) online it's clear he was troubled and cause one to think that the father of the kid sure wasn't talking to the uncle. The uncle has had concerns about the kid for some time and had reached out to him.
As for the snarky comments above about certain drugs as related to killings by mental cases- I am sorry to tell you that there are many very good folks in our society that need and depend on what is being held up as the fault? Get real! I don't need or use the stuff referred to but some people do-and they get it legal and need it.
Much can be said here about drugs and their abuse. I'll not bother here more but don't think for a minute that there aren't lots of gun owners that are law abiding good people and they use certain drugs to stay mentally OK and function in their lives. I'll also go on a limb and say many here have family that are in that boat. As a long time counselor these are things I know about (my wife was a mental health counselor for many years too), don't confuse the issues, please!
As for religion avoidance on this forum-fat chance huh? I'm not offended from these posts but some are, yet if there's a rule that gets broken here and often, religion is the one. Prayers mentioned are one thing, getting into religious technicalities is a bit much, me thinks? No need to kill the thread just keep it OK.
This kid showed problems from the brief things we've been provided and yet he got a gun for his BD.
One look at the posted pic he had online in his apartheid jacket was a telling thing? Look at the kids eyes and tell me he needs a gun. I wouldn't give a BB gun to someone looked like that.
I suggest there will be other tell tale signs from his recent past that were either ignored or tried and failed.
The uncle trying to reach out should have been a signal!
Likely he would have done something crazy even if the Dad hadn't given him the .45, just a bomb ticking there.
My prayers for the families that are suffering to understand.
 
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Dylann Roof now joins a long and ever-expanding list of other killers who were either taking psychiatric drugs or withdrawing from them at the time they committed mass murder.

Here is a article on the drugs prescribed by Doctors which have ended in tragic ending. It was not the guns fault but the person who gave these monsters the drugs.


Gun News - Rifle Manufacturer John Noveske Mysteriously Killed Shortly After Posting Controversial Article | TexasGOPVote
 
I'm not sure I understand what you mean by that. Conspiracy for what purpose?

Probably talking about those who are professing that all of the recent "mass shootings" are actually part of a Government action to further their agenda of gun control and Marshall Law.

I've read a lot of such **** today.

Bob
 
This is a horrible act of murdering innocent folks and I'm trying not to get into the mind of of the killer or other gun control, religious agenda's.
But from the news reports the shooter reloaded five times and no one was able to stop him?
 
Let's wait for the facts.

what facts ...
I haven't bothered to even turn on the TV today.
It will only anger me.
If there are any facts, recent history dictates that they will be buried under a pile of agenda oriented spin.

still waiting for the facts from all the prior incidents spanning the past 15 years ... just not holding my breath.
 
If this tragedy doesn't make people see the need to always carry, I just don't know what will. It really can happen anywhere. Be safe.
 
A racial hate crime carried out by a domestic terrorist, who probably has mental issues.
Not too much different from that nut in Colorado, except for motive.
 
A racial hate crime carried out by a domestic terrorist, who probably has mental issues.
Not too much different from that nut in Colorado, except for motive.

yep ... would have made far more sense, and be far more socially acceptable to storm a crack house. But that's not what the nut job did.
 
Probably talking about those who are professing that all of the recent "mass shootings" are actually part of a Government action to further their agenda of gun control and Marshall Law.

I've read a lot of such **** today.

Bob

So you don't buy into it ... neither do I.
But it holds some cred with more than enough to cause the ammo shelves to go dry by the end of the day ..... again:mad:

We don't have to believe it to be subject to the effects.
I just hope most of them have maxed out credit cards and the inability to get a loan after the the Sandyhook fiasco.
It is only through the depleted buying power of the order of the foil fedora that we might know mercy
 
Insanity Defense Coming

No doubt he'll go for the insanity defense. However, I have an idea on how he may be rehabilitated: once in prison, assign him to the general prison population. End of problem.
 
In a perfect world, a fair and speedy trial, then a date with a tall tree and a short rope in the center of Charleston..but with lawyers,shrinks and all the physco babel, it will never happen. By the time they spin it he will be an Eagle Scout, potential Rhodes scholar, working to solve world hunger....
 
he was arrested at a traffic stop with no injuries-where is this post coming from?
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From this shot released before his arrest.



Note the stain on his shoulder and arm, and the thing in front of his groin.

I may be off base anyway - this looks like him going in rather than coming out.
 
No doubt he'll go for the insanity defense. However, I have an idea on how he may be rehabilitated: once in prison, assign him to the general prison population. End of problem.
There will be people inside who will leap to his protection since they share his ideology.

The way to "rehabilitate" him is with a 200gr. XTP between the eyes. That's 100% guaranteed to cure his lack of impulse control.
 
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