cleaning rod bore guide for 15-22

[bigfruits]

hello,

i purchased a 1 piece cleaning rod and i am now looking for a bore guide. what are you guys using?

thanks in advance,

-z

 

[MichiganScott]

More rifles are damaged by cleaning than by any other single cause.

When I clean my .22 rifles, I carefully guide the rod by hand. However, I seldom clean the barrel of my .22's, and most of mine are competition rifles. The actions and breech are brushed out, cleaned, and relubed on a regular basis.

 

[hakr100]

Really. I got rid of my mess of guide rods and use bore snakes these days.
Much safer for the bore.

 

[RedNeck Jim]

Really. I got rid of my mess of guide rods and use bore snakes these days.
Much safer for the bore.

Agree 100%

 

[bigfruits]

thanks for the responses.

does anyone know of a bore guide that fits the 15-22?

 

[Majorlk]

thanks for the responses.

does anyone know of a bore guide that fits the 15-22?

Welcome to the forum!

Considering that, unless you use a .17 diameter cleaning rod, the size of a .22 diameter rod pretty much negates the use of a bore guide. The only one I have ever seen for a .22 fit over the entire muzzle and had a hole through the middle for the rod. That's been so long ago, I have no idea who made it.

You might try a Google search.

Personally, cleaning from the muzzle end is a terrible way to clean a barrel, unless there simply isn't any access from the breech end. Cleaning from the breach/chamber end of the barrel is the proper way to do it.

FWIW, the ONLY time I ever use a cleaning rod is when there is a heavy lead buildup that a BoreSnake can't remove. Don't remember the last time I had to do that, though.

 

[bigfruits]

thanks Majorlk, i have a bore snake that i use regularly but did want to be able to get copper and lead build up with a brush every once and a while. did some google searching but could not find any info about a guide that fits because of the extractor.
maybe Otis is the way to go here...

do you think its safe to use a cleaning rod from the breech without a guide on this 22lr bore? again, this would not be done very often.

 

[Majorlk]

thanks Majorlk, i have a bore snake that i use regularly but did want to be able to get copper and lead build up with a brush every once and a while. did some google searching but could not find any info about a guide that fits because of the extractor.
maybe Otis is the way to go here...

do you think its safe to use a cleaning rod from the breech without a guide on this 22lr bore? again, this would not be done very often.

There's no breech/chamber end rod guides for .22 LR simply because there's no room for them in the chamber.

There's no copper buildup from .22 LR ammo. The copper on the bullet is simply a wash and not a plating and as such, does not build up that I have ever seen. Lead is another matter, but if you run the BoreSnake through the bore a couple of times when you finish a shooting session, it should never be a problem. Be sure to use some CLP or other good cleaning agent on the 'Snake.

Most of us put a soda straw on the ejector, (the extractor is in the bolt body) to keep from snagging it on the 'Snake, but unless one really isn't paying attention to what they are doing, you'd not do anything to it with a cleaning rod. It's at least a quarter inch away.

It's seldom that I put less than 500 rounds through my 15-22 at any given range session and many times closer to 1k. When I get home, I simply give the bore two passes with the 'Snake and take a tooth brush to the bolt face. All this takes less than ten minutes and I've never experienced any buildup of any kind with this routine.

Shoot and enjoy!

 

[RedNeck Jim]

I'm with the Major. I keep hearing talk about all this residue in the barrel, but I never have any. After every 500 rounds or so, I run a boresnake thru twice and my barrel is spotless. Nothing to scrub. I put gun solvent on the leading edge, prior to the brushes and use CLP after the brushes, then let the long tail wipe it clean.

The barrel is easy to clean. The chamber is another matter.

 

[ryannjames]

I'm picking mine up tomorrow morning. Im pretty excited

 

[bigfruits]

I'm picking mine up tomorrow morning. Im pretty excited

sweet! what bore guide are you picking up tomorrow morning?

 

[GhostMutt]

LOL thread drift

 

[ryannjames]

I just got a bore snake.

 

[tacticool22]

I just use a bore snake. It cleans the chamber out just fine.
I have never seen a guide for the breech end, only the muzzle end.
If you got one of our threaded barrel ends you could use that as a guide to protect the crown. If you have a flash hider your crown is protected pretty well already.

 

[ryannjames]

I took my m&p15-22 to the range today for the first time. Fired 300 rounds of various brands of ammo. None of which were mentiond in the manual to avoid using. Had maybe 10-15 failures to extract. My brother has an ar15 and said i probably didnt use enough oil around the bolt. So my question is where do i use oil and how much should i use. Tried to find videos on YouTube and didnt find a good video

 

[tacticool22]

No oil around the bolt.
Just a light coating on the guide rails. If you can see the oil, it's too much.
Polish the guide rails with a hard Arkansass stone or 600 grit wet/dry paper on a pane of glass. Use oil or water while sanding.
Re-blue when your done and you will see and a world of difference.

 

[Bat Guano]

My 15-22 has somewhere north of 3K rounds through it and has never had a rod put to it. Bolt and carrier cleanup, swamp out the reciever, lube and go. And that's about every several hundred rounds.

Noncorrosive priming and protective bullet lube came out in the 1930s, folks.

 

[gabe221]

Now why would anybody want to clean a 22lr barrel? I haven't seen a copper bullet leave and traces of copper fouling yet. There is no need to clean a 22lr barrel. Maybe oil it to keep it from rusting, go shoot it and enjoy it, instead of damaging it.

 

[JasonM]

I get the feeling that most here use the 15-22 for exactly what it was designed for, fun plinking and training for a centerfire AR. If that's all you want to do, cleaning the parts other than the bore and maybe a boresnake down the barrel now and again should be fine for cleaning the 15-22. If you really want to test accuracy or try accuracy with different rounds from different manufacturers, you need to clean the bore better than a boresnake or "just shoot bullets through it" will clean it, specifically the area in front of the chamber. This is where those with benchrest or serious accuracy backgrounds come in, and want a bore guide.

For reference, using a boresnake is not nearly as safe as using a good boreguide with a rod and cleaning from the breech end without letting the rod and jag fully exit the muzzle. Having the boresnake with embedded fouling pulled against one side of the muzzle (no one pulls it exactly straight) is risky for damaging the crown over time, especially if you pull it to the same side each time.

All in all, I don't think any 15-22, even my performance center version, is going to have enough accuracy for any of this stuff to matter in an appreciable way. This is a "fast and fun gun" and will never be an "amazingly accurate" gun that will be something to send $15/box of 50 Lapua or Eley ammo through. Just use it for what it is and enjoy it. A boresnake will work just fine.

 

[Majorlk]

For reference, using a boresnake is not nearly as safe as using a good boreguide with a rod and cleaning from the breech end without letting the rod and jag fully exit the muzzle. Having the boresnake with embedded fouling pulled against one side of the muzzle (no one pulls it exactly straight) is risky for damaging the crown over time, especially if you pull it to the same side each time.

Considering that the steel in the barrel is hundreds of times harder than the brass brushes built into the BoreSnakes and any imbedded unburnt powder, this statement is nonsense. Maybe after a couple of hundred thousand passes ...

Oh yea, that also presumes one is so incompetent that they never wash the BoreSnake.