DWalt
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All this makes me wonder. Somewhere, I have an original style M-16 black buttstock and triangular forend. Are those worth anything these days?
Colt to produce a throwback M16A1
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Mexican Kerry
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Some people think they are. Two days ago a guy on another forum posted a set of just handguards for 250 bucks and they sold.
OP--is that the official Colt pic, of the M16A1 reissue?
Might be the angle, or my eyes, but the fencing around mag well and mag release doesn't look A1-ish.
The three-prong flash suppressor was replaced by birdcage, on A1...and the front sling swivel is weird--sling opening is way too deep, top to bottom.
Might be the angle, or my eyes, but the fencing around mag well and mag release doesn't look A1-ish.
The three-prong flash suppressor was replaced by birdcage, on A1...and the front sling swivel is weird--sling opening is way too deep, top to bottom.
okiegtrider
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I like the idea of this rifle. Its good seeing some of the old stuff from Colt coming back to the market.
At that price, I'll have to be content to enjoy all the new M16A1's you guys buy and show off here in the forum.
At that price, I'll have to be content to enjoy all the new M16A1's you guys buy and show off here in the forum.
inspcalahan
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I'd drop $1000 for one just for fun, but that msrp is way way way beyond reality....
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Interesting!
What will the twist rate be?
Original Armalite twist (1/14, Unstable bullet flight, wounded more enemy) or 1/12 or modern 1/9....or 1/7 (sucks for 55 gr bullets)
What will the twist rate be?
Original Armalite twist (1/14, Unstable bullet flight, wounded more enemy) or 1/12 or modern 1/9....or 1/7 (sucks for 55 gr bullets)
I have an original SP-1.......Don't this at that price....
LVSteve
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That price tag makes the Colt Kool-Aid taste even more rancid than usual.
What's depressing is that for an authorized agency the list price of a full auto M4 is like $1200. Sigh. I put together an A2 from a stripped receiver and rifle kit. Fun project and as close as I will get to the original.
Skeptic 9c
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In 1972 the replacement cost of an M16-A1 in the US Army was $106...
Geoff
Who wished he could buy one at that price at that time...the gunshop price for a new Colt semi-auto was "bring in your car as a trade in..." level.
Geoff
Who wished he could buy one at that price at that time...the gunshop price for a new Colt semi-auto was "bring in your car as a trade in..." level.
As they say, "There's a sucker born every minute"!
Look at the foolish prices that are being paid for Pythons, too!
I like the retro guns but that price is just way out of line. Was at a gunshow in Cheyenne today and saw a Colt SP1 new in the box for $500 less than one of the new retro rifles.
I agree they are badly over priced.
I built a semi-auto M16 clone using an SP1 upper and an M16A1 clone using an M16A1 upper. Both uppers were police takeoffs sold then the department upgraded to M4 configuration carbines.
I put them on NDS lower receivers. Total cost was about $600 for each of them.
Part of the appeal was replicating the M16A1 I had been issued in the mid 1980s. Given the interest in retro configuration AR-15s, and the number of vets at a point in their lives where they may have the discretionary income, I suspect Colt could sell a boat load of them - if they sold it as a regular cataloged item at a competitive price.
As it is, selling it for 2.5x-3x the going rate will in the end probably cost them profits compared to what they'd have made selling several times more of them at a more reasonable $800-$1000.
I built a semi-auto M16 clone using an SP1 upper and an M16A1 clone using an M16A1 upper. Both uppers were police takeoffs sold then the department upgraded to M4 configuration carbines.
I put them on NDS lower receivers. Total cost was about $600 for each of them.
Part of the appeal was replicating the M16A1 I had been issued in the mid 1980s. Given the interest in retro configuration AR-15s, and the number of vets at a point in their lives where they may have the discretionary income, I suspect Colt could sell a boat load of them - if they sold it as a regular cataloged item at a competitive price.
As it is, selling it for 2.5x-3x the going rate will in the end probably cost them profits compared to what they'd have made selling several times more of them at a more reasonable $800-$1000.
amazingflapjack
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Noooooooo Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now, if they made a Vietnam era M-14 clone.......
Mexican Kerry
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So you're part of the reason I can't get Nodak to take my order!
They recently told me they aren't even processing orders from Canada right now because of the demand at home. I need a partial fence lower BAD.
They are aimed at a specific demographic and many of those guys have disposable income these days. I expect them to sell quite well.
I bought a surplus M16A1 upper, minus BCG and CH, from CDNN back in the day. It came with a NOS A1 buttstock assy and a NOS A1 grip assy. I found a Colt M16 BCG online and purchased a RRA lower and CH at the funshow. Sent the lower and CH to Norrels to get it finished in Colt gray. The texture is different but the color spot on. It is one of my favorite shooters with old Israeli surplus 55gr.
A few years later I came upon someone selling their SP1 minus the receiver on another forum. I think it was something around $400. I snapped that up and built a "truck gun" using a cheap lower. About 4 months ago I put in a order through Nodak Spud for the appropriate lower for the slick-side SP1 parts I have. In a few months it should be here.
I expect some interest at the range when I take them both to shoot.
A1 Clone
SP1 parts
I bought a surplus M16A1 upper, minus BCG and CH, from CDNN back in the day. It came with a NOS A1 buttstock assy and a NOS A1 grip assy. I found a Colt M16 BCG online and purchased a RRA lower and CH at the funshow. Sent the lower and CH to Norrels to get it finished in Colt gray. The texture is different but the color spot on. It is one of my favorite shooters with old Israeli surplus 55gr.
A few years later I came upon someone selling their SP1 minus the receiver on another forum. I think it was something around $400. I snapped that up and built a "truck gun" using a cheap lower. About 4 months ago I put in a order through Nodak Spud for the appropriate lower for the slick-side SP1 parts I have. In a few months it should be here.
I expect some interest at the range when I take them both to shoot.
A1 Clone
SP1 parts
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