Concealed carry permit holder shoots and kills robbery suspect - Chicago

[timjake]

Not much in the way of facts yet, other than the headline. The police say the shooter had a valid concealed carry permit and the robber was armed.

"A man on the scene shot the robbery suspect in the chest and abdomen, police said. It is not clear if the man was the owner, employee, or another customer."

Man with concealed carry permit shoots and kills robbery suspect inside Chicago cell phone store

Chicago armed robbery thwarted as gun owner with concealed-carry permit kills suspect: report | Fox News

 

[7shooter]

It wasn't that many years ago that only the politically connected could get carry permits in Chicago,

 

[Muss Muggins]

You're thinking of the Prohibition era and Capone. Illinois state law banned concealed carry of any sort from 1949 until 2013, when Illinois became a shall issue state. Illinois also has a state preemption law in force, banning municipalities from enacting laws stricter than state law for the most part. The first permits were issued in 2014.

It wasn't that many years ago that only the politically connected could get carry permits in Chicago,

 

[GaryS]

Illinois only passed a concealed carry law because the 7th Circuit Court gave them six months to do so or IL would become a Constitutional Carry state.

IL could have appealed the decision to SCOTUS, but came under pressure from other states not to do that as the risk was that a loss there could result in shall issue becoming the nationwide requirement.

It had nothing to do with Capone or Prohibition.

You're thinking of the Prohibition era and Capone. Illinois state law banned concealed carry of any sort from 1949 until 2013, when Illinois became a shall issue state. Illinois also has a state preemption law in force, banning municipalities from enacting laws stricter than state law for the most part. The first permits were issued in 2014.

 

[Muss Muggins]

You misinterpreted my post. I was not discussing why concealed carry came in to being. I was pointing out that even the politically well connected were unable to carry legally after 1949. Capone and Prohibition were a generalization, when the Chicago mob bought off public officials to receive dispensation for several things the general public couldn't do . . .

Illinois only passed a concealed carry law because the 7th Circuit Court gave them six months to do so or IL would become a Constitutional Carry state.

IL could have appealed the decision to SCOTUS, but came under pressure from other states not to do that as the risk was that a loss there could result in shall issue becoming the nationwide requirement.

It had nothing to do with Capone or Prohibition.

 

[Onomea]

So, you guys are saying that nowadays a normal, law-abiding citizen can get a concealed carry permit in Chicago? If so, that's great. I had no idea.

 

[Muss Muggins]

Well, you get a concealed carry permit from the state, which is valid statewide, and has been since 2013. Illinois doesn't honor CCW permits from any other state . . .

So, you guys are saying that nowadays a normal, law-abiding citizen can get a concealed carry permit in Chicago? If so, that's great. I had no idea.

 

[jughed440]

Regardless of how Illinois carry permits came about, I'm happy that the good guy is alive.. couldn't care any less about the bad guy.

Thanks for the great news

 

[GaryS]

The politically connected and wealthy can always get exceptions to the rules. To think otherwise is naive.

You misinterpreted my post. I was not discussing why concealed carry came in to being. I was pointing out that even the politically well connected were unable to carry legally after 1949. Capone and Prohibition were a generalization, when the Chicago mob bought off public officials to receive dispensation for several things the general public couldn't do . . .

 

[cmort666]

It wasn't that many years ago that only the politically connected could get carry permits in Chicago,

It wasn't that many years ago that only cops and the politically connected could get HANDGUNS in Chicago.

 

[swsig]

My guess is that even though the shooter may have been completely justified, he will still face legal challenges.

 

[df06]

My guess is that even though the shooter may have been completely justified, he will still face legal challenges.

Unfortunately, I suspect that you are correct. He and his family ought to sue the estate of the bad guy for the mental distress he is experiencing.

 

[Muss Muggins]

Once again misinterpreted. And duly noted . . .

The politically connected and wealthy can always get exceptions to the rules. To think otherwise is naive.

 

[HardToHandle]

Muss or others may be more familiar, but there has been some complaints that the State of Illinois Police are woefully slow in processing firearms related permitting in the pandemic period. Weeks have become months.

So some folks are still unable to be issued permits. They have theorized rights, but denied in practice.

 

[Muss Muggins]

Forum member ispcapt would be the expert there. Everybody I know that lives in Illinois lives just across the river from Cape Girardeau, and I don't have any acquisition horror stories . . .

Muss or others may be more familiar, but there has been some complaints that the State of Illinois Police are woefully slow in processing firearms related permitting in the pandemic period. Weeks have become months.

So some folks are still unable to be issued permits. They have theorized rights, but denied in practice.