Store Policies that just don’t make sense

I've bought a handgun at my local Bass Pro. A nice used Colt Police Positive Special. It did not have a trigger lock on it while in the display case. It did not have a trigger lock on it when I examined it. It did not have a trigger lock on it when I bought it.
However, I had to wait 20 minutes while the clerk rummaged around in the back room to find and put a cheap trigger lock on it before I could leave with it. :confused:

I had basically the same thing happen to me. I just stood there and smiled and looked at their way overpriced ammo smiling even more because I'm a reloader and have enough ammo for quite some time.

After like 10 minutes of the clerk trying to figure out how to get the cheap plastic trigger lock on I did consider turning and showing him the Kimber micro9 I had on my hip and "saying sir if I wanted to start shooting I don't need that firearm". But I didn't and just started helping him get it locked on there.

I got home and threw the very cheap trigger lock in the trash.
 
My experience with Academy is that they sell a lot of guns to people who don't know squat about guns and can get away with those stupid policies because the purchaser doesn't know any better. I go to my local one frequently for other things, but always go to the ammo shelves and gun accessories to see what's there, and I make it a point to listen to the conversations between the gun counter sales people and the customers. I rarely make a correction, but often roll my eyes at what I hear.

The knowledge of the Big store gun salesmen has went down the tubes drastically over the last few years. I've wondered on several occasions how the heck they got their jobs?

It's just a warm body in a position thing I guess?
 
Gun sales is a tough business. Our social decline and out of control torte system have shackled sellers.

Buying a gun without handling it first makes it almost impossible to weed out the poorly built ones.
On the other hand, such policies have probably reduced the number of non-buyers wanting to come and just paw the merchandise.

At my preferred local gun shop they have display guns they will show customers, but when you purchase one, they get one from the back. I assume they open the box to confirm the serial number when they log it into their bound book, but as far as I can tell they don’t thoroughly inspect the gun, and that’s consistent with some obvious issues I’ve seen on display guns that indicate they don’t thoroughly inspect them either.

The end result is that I’ll see how a display pistol or long gun strikes me for fit and features, but when they bring out the one they actually plan to sell me, I carefully inspect it before I buy it.

That’s the major benefit of buying from a brick and mortar gun store. It used to be unnecessary back in the day when reputable gun shops thoroughly inspected every firearm on arrival and returned anything that was second rate to the wholesaler, most of which ended up in big box stores that didn’t inspect and both bought from the whole sale and sold to the customer at a discount. You got what you paid for.

Now stores like Academy don’t offer any advantage other than having the item in the store for immediate purchase, and local gun shops no longer provide a final QA check.

People buy guns every day on auction sites and forums like this without “trying the trigger”. Granted, you can pay to ship it back with all the attendant hassles where most big box stores won’t do a return on a used gun.

It used to bother me, now it doesn’t. I do welcome all the “I’ll never buy there” types, as it leaves more for me.

The rules aren’t aimed at you. They are aimed at the crazies, as is the case with most laws and rules.

It is amusing that the trigger lock rule extends to cap and ball revolvers.

“Trying the trigger” is a bit of a misnomer. I advise new shooters interested in purchasing a handgun to buy from a local gun shop precisely so they can see if a particular model of handgun fits them properly, in terms of both grip and slight alignment when they bring it up into their sight line. Dry firing and literally “trying the trigger” isn’t part of that process.

It is however something that encourages shooters to buy at a local gun store rather than saving a few bucks buying on line.

The inspection process is important at well for experienced shooters. For example, I bought a used PT-58 once from an Overton’ store just after they had been acquired by Camping World. Their new store policy didn’t allow for slide removal for a thorough inspection. Sure enough, when I got it to the range it would not fire as the lever that activated the firing pin safety had been broken off. They had however agreed to accept returns if there were any mechanical issues. I returned it and it ended up being the last gun I bought from them. I did go back a few months later and they no longer had an FFL.

It was unfortunate as Overtons always had a nice selection of surplus handguns in stock and it was a great place to find things like early CZ-75s etc.


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I understand that store policies are the result of knee jerk responses by attorneys who are by nature hard wired to the safest possible response to an event.

But those crazies are literally 1 in a million, and there are other ways to address the issue that don’t impede the other 999,999 people in that million.
 
This seems just plain silly.

Several questions for you.

1. What is the cost of a Permit to Purchase?

2. How long is it good for?

3. How many Permits can I possess at one time?

I enjoy owning and shooting a wide variety of guns. Sometimes I become interested in a certain model based on reading a article, the manufacturer advertising, comments on Internet discussion boards such as this one (GASP!). However before buying one I first want to physically examine it’s features, how well it handles, how well I can reach it’s controls if semi-auto and overall design before I decide if I want it.

Without knowing if I like it a Permit to Purchase is premature. What the Permit does do is stop a impulse purchase which is particularly disappointing if it is a gun I have been looking for for a long time or the price is sweet.

Also since I enjoy owning and shooting many different guns I may (most often) do not have a specific gun in mind when going to gun stores.

Or maybe the specific model I want is out-of-stock. If the Permit has a expiration date this complicates shopping for a gun.

The application and cost of a Permit is discriminatory.

Federal Law allows purchase of more than one gun at a time. Does N.C.? Can I have more than one Permit at a time?

Here in NC, the purchase permit only applies to hand guns.

The cost is $5 per permit, it’s good for 5 years, and you can get up to 5 at one time.

As noted before a purchase permit is not needed if you have a concealed carry permit, and as a citizen I’d rather see the purchase permits go away as a lot can happen in the 5 years after the permit is issued.

While it meets the Brady requirement I suspect most FFLs in NC run a NICS check anyway if the purchase permit is more than a month or so old. If someone is arrested or convicted for something that would make them a prohibited individual, it’ll flag the list of concealed carry permit holders and the local sheriff is likely to send a deputy around to confiscate the concealed carry permit. A purchase permit issued a few years ago? Probably not.

Most gun shops will happily take your money and hold a handgun for you if you need to get a purchase permit. The process generally takes about a week in my end of NC.
 
This seems just plain silly.

Several questions for you.

1. What is the cost of a Permit to Purchase?

2. How long is it good for?

3. How many Permits can I possess at one time?


Federal Law allows purchase of more than one gun at a time. Does N.C.? Can I have more than one Permit at a time?

Google is your friend.
I have had a CC Permit for several years and don't know the answer to your questions but before the CC Permit I kept at least one Purchase Permit in Billfold all the time.
About 5 years ago I bought 3 pistols in one day and I ran out of money. That leads me to believe that money determines how many guns I can purchase in one day. Larry
 
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