SixWillDo
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Could the Heller decision, establishing self defense as a right be considered case law?
Concealed Carry versus the Post Office
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Odd.... I ASK THE LOCAL POSTMASTER, AND HE TELLS ME THAT THEY ARE DIRECTED TO CALL THE LOCAL POLICE IF THEY ARE AWARE OF ANYONE CARRYING A HANDGUN OR LONG GUN INTO THE POST OFFICE, AND ARE REQUIRED TO TESTIFY IN COURT IS SO CALLED TO DO SO.
THAT TELLS ME....NO CARRY EM IN POST OFFICE...LEAVE EM IN CAR... DON'T BRING EM IS YOU'SE DON'T HAVE A PLACE TO SAFELY STORE ME FOR 15 MINUTES OR SO. BETTER LEGAL THAN FOOLISH.
KeithCarter
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Supervel, my Social Security office in Woodstock, IL (close to wisconsin line) also has an armed guard. Are we getting afraid of people 65 and older now? You can't rob the office, because they send the money out by check.
Why in the world would a place for us geezers need armed guards????
Keithcarter
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Why in the world would a place for us geezers need armed guards????
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beemerrider
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I refrain from shooting people or things while I'm in there; even if some woman steps on my toes while cutting in front of me.
I do not leave guns in cars, so I just make sure my pistol is well concealed when I go into the PO.
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That's a damned good question.
I guess they're scared of us?
My guess is that since disability is a big part of their function, and a lot of the disabilities are mental.....and the bastards cheat them out of their disability checks--they get a lot of disgruntled mentally ill people showing up to complain and cause trouble.
That's just a guess.
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Originally posted by 38-44HD45: Obviously, it would cost tens of thousands of dollars in legal fees to have the opportunity to be the test case.
the nice postal employee in the back
Yeah, even though, IMHO, I'd say the 2nd Admendment trumps the (unconstitutional) law, I don't want to be a test case. This reluctance on my part, combined with the lack of serious consequences for making & enforcing the bad law, is why they still have the law.
Of course, I could be wrong, but if so, then an open & honest explanation should be forthcoming. And I will be happy to share my soon to be new found understanding.
And, does anyone know if the FBI still does background checks on people applying for a job with the Post Office? My great Aunt went through that over 40 years ago if I remember right.
My local post office is about 5 blocks, so no problem for me to make a specific trip and just leave my gun at home.
But even so I buy stamps via internet or at grocery store to avoid trips to post office. I am even thinking of buying postage scale so I can figure postage myself for small packages.
But even so I buy stamps via internet or at grocery store to avoid trips to post office. I am even thinking of buying postage scale so I can figure postage myself for small packages.
Andy Taylor
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Back in the mid 90's I was one of those armed guards. It has a lot more to do with the mentally disturbed/disabled SSI recipients than it does the retired "geezers".
dennis40x
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Maybe the post office should copy the fast food places and banks with drive thru service.
38-44HD45
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That would be a huge stretch, and that's not quite what Heller did. Since the cited statute was not at issue in Heller, Heller doesn't stand as authority for any prosecution under that statute. Sorry; if right was right, we wouldn't be having this discussion, since the plain language of the 2nd Amendment would have answered all the questions without the need for comment, interpretation or construction.
LoboGunLeather
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By far the best and most sensible replies so far have been those advising against becoming the test case! Why put yourself into the position of defending against a federal felony complaint, at huge expense with tremendous disruption of your life, perhaps for several years? Why let some law enforcement property custodian keep your good carry piece locked in an evidence locker until the case is settled?
Good locking storage containers for mounting in vehicles are readily available, and cost far less than that first "retainer" check you're going to have to write to a lawyer, and less than the fee charged by a bail bondsman so you can get out of the jug and go hire that lawyer.
By the way, I don't cross the street in a marked crosswalk without making sure there is no traffic coming. I might be right, but I can also get hurt.
Good locking storage containers for mounting in vehicles are readily available, and cost far less than that first "retainer" check you're going to have to write to a lawyer, and less than the fee charged by a bail bondsman so you can get out of the jug and go hire that lawyer.
By the way, I don't cross the street in a marked crosswalk without making sure there is no traffic coming. I might be right, but I can also get hurt.
She would take the felony if caught, see why:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1u0Byq5Qis
And this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oux_W279_y4&feature=related
Jump to 3:00 if impatient. This is where she talks about how a District Attorney advised her to carry illegally.
Just saying.
Smitty500Mag
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Here we go again!
How are they going to know you have a gun on you unless you need to use it? If you need to use it do you really care who knows you have it then? They can stick those little signs where the sun don't shine!!
Smitty
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Originally posted by Smitty500Mag:
Here we go again!How are they going to know you have a gun on you unless you need to use it? If you need to use it do you really care who knows you have it then? They can stick those little signs where the sun don't shine!!
Smitty
Indeed. It's a no-brainer. If our govt wants to imprison an upstanding citizen with no criminal history that pays his taxes and contributes to the general well being of society over this then so be it. It will reap what it sows. Everyone else are sheep.
Originally posted by Smitty500Mag:
Here we go again!How are they going to know you have a gun on you unless you need to use it? If you need to use it do you really care who knows you have it then? They can stick those little signs where the sun don't shine!!
Smitty
I believe that Smitty is posting for a LARGE number of people who have already figured this out.
Obviously, if there is some danger of your gun's showing or being dropped, then Smitty's post isn't the whole story. Otherwise, it is.
Thanks for posting!
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All well and good, but those who want to gamble should instead go to a casino.
Odds are, if you carry into a post office, no one will ever know (assuming your gun is well-concealed). However....what if?
If you are caught breaking the law in this fashion, make no mistake, the law will come down hard on you.
You will need the best attorneys you can afford.
You will surely lose your carry permit.
Being a (previously) law-abiding citizen, you will probably end up copping to a felony with the agreement that you will not serve a day in jail.
That means your guns will be confiscated and you will never be allowed to own another gun.
I've had three friends (law-abiding, substantial citizens) who had this happen some years ago when they were nailed for selling guns without a license.
Two of them still went to gun shows. They sold and traded knives, duck decoys and fish decoys. They socialized. They looked pretty sad. As far as I know, they were never compensated for the loss of their substantial gun collections.
One said the experience was sort of like being castrated.
Those are the stakes when you gamble on carrying a gun into the post office.
Good luck.
Odds are, if you carry into a post office, no one will ever know (assuming your gun is well-concealed). However....what if?
If you are caught breaking the law in this fashion, make no mistake, the law will come down hard on you.
You will need the best attorneys you can afford.
You will surely lose your carry permit.
Being a (previously) law-abiding citizen, you will probably end up copping to a felony with the agreement that you will not serve a day in jail.
That means your guns will be confiscated and you will never be allowed to own another gun.
I've had three friends (law-abiding, substantial citizens) who had this happen some years ago when they were nailed for selling guns without a license.
Two of them still went to gun shows. They sold and traded knives, duck decoys and fish decoys. They socialized. They looked pretty sad. As far as I know, they were never compensated for the loss of their substantial gun collections.
One said the experience was sort of like being castrated.
Those are the stakes when you gamble on carrying a gun into the post office.
Good luck.
Tell it to Suzanna Gratia Hupp.
Obviously, one should avoid going into the post office unnecessarily.
One should NOT disarm.
I NEVER fly.
Sounds like a good reason to just avoid the post office altogether to not risk things either way and to keep principles intact.
Luckily, one could probably go for years without having to set foot inside unless you're unfortunate enough to need a PO Box or something.
Luckily, one could probably go for years without having to set foot inside unless you're unfortunate enough to need a PO Box or something.
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