Concealed Hammer Maintenance

AND----speaking of CorrosionX, it plays a role in what's become known as "Ralph's Bath"----a routine applied to each and every beat-up, nasty old S&W that came to live here.

Goes like this: Step One: The gun comes apart----ALL apart---not counting barrels and action studs. Everything gets soaked in Mineral Spirits for 2-3 days---or until I get back to it. Then it gets scrubbed to within an inch of its life---including the screw holes(!!), rinsed with CLEAN Mineral Spirits, and blown dry with DRY, high pressure compressed air (125 psi line pressure). Then all the pieces get hosed down with CorrosionX, and left to sit for 2-3 days----or until I get back to it. Everything then gets blasted with this DRY, high pressure compressed air again to remove as much of the CorrosionX as will come off. Then the pieces get stuffed back together into a gun, and the exterior gets washed down with Hoppes #9 to remove all the remaining CorrosionX----dried and polished with a soft cloth------'cause there's NOTHING that looks worse than a gorgeous blue finish with oil on it!!!!! Then the gun goes on a shelf in the display cabinet. As another aside, there were guns sitting in that cabinet for the better part of 30 years with no further attention than getting the dust vacuumed off about twice a year----'cause the cabinet wasn't air tight----and there was nary a problem with ANYTHING----NO corrosion---NO sludge----No nothing!! OH!!--and by the way, there was NO lubrication of anything, because CorrosionX has enough lubrication qualities to suffice----even for guns that are used for guns.

And as an aside, not counting CorrosionX, entirely adequate lubrication of a S&W hand ejector revolver action is obtained with ONE drop of oil on the hammer stud--ONE drop on the trigger stud, ONE drop under, and ONE drop on the back of the recoil slide. Those with some sort of obsessive compulsive disorder put a half a drop on the cylinder stop stud. You can use more---it's good for holding on to dirt.

Ralph Tremaine

OH!-----lead removed from the barrel/cylinder chambers: That's actually Step One of the bath: Go to the Notable Thread Index in the early hand ejector section. Go to the "lead in barrel" thread. Do what you're told to do. You end up with squeaky clean barrels and chambers----with no fuss, no muss, and no bother!!----with this proviso: First---DRY THE BORES!!!!
 
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AND----speaking of CorrosionX, it plays a role in what's become known as "Ralph's Bath"----a routine applied to each and every beat-up, nasty old S&W that came to live here.

Goes like this: Step One: The gun comes apart----ALL apart---not counting barrels and action studs. Everything gets soaked in Mineral Spirits for 2-3 days---or until I get back to it. Then it gets scrubbed to within an inch of its life---including the screw holes(!!), rinsed with CLEAN Mineral Spirits, and blown dry with DRY, high pressure compressed air (125 psi line pressure). Then all the pieces get hosed down with CorrosionX, and left to sit for 2-3 days----or until I get back to it. Everything then gets blasted with this DRY, high pressure compressed air again to remove as much of the CorrosionX as will come off. Then the pieces get stuffed back together into a gun, and the exterior gets washed down with Hoppes #9 to remove all the remaining CorrosionX----dried and polished with a soft cloth------'cause there's NOTHING that looks worse than a gorgeous blue finish with oil on it!!!!! Then the gun goes on a shelf in the display cabinet. As another aside, there were guns sitting in that cabinet for the better part of 30 years with no further attention than getting the dust vacuumed off about twice a year----'cause the cabinet wasn't air tight----and there was nary a problem with ANYTHING----NO corrosion---NO sludge----No nothing!! OH!!--and by the way, there was NO lubrication of anything, because CorrosionX has enough lubrication qualities to suffice----even for guns that are used for guns.

And as an aside, not counting CorrosionX, entirely adequate lubrication of a S&W hand ejector revolver action is obtained with ONE drop of oil on the hammer stud--ONE drop on the trigger stud, ONE drop under, and ONE drop on the back of the recoil slide. Those with some sort of obsessive compulsive disorder put a half a drop on the cylinder stop stud. You can use more---it's good for holding on to dirt.

Ralph Tremaine

OH!-----lead removed from the barrel/cylinder chambers: That's actually Step One of the bath: Go to the Notable Thread Index in the early hand ejector section. Go to the "lead in barrel" thread. Do what you're told to do. You end up with squeaky clean barrels and chambers----with no fuss, no muss, and no bother!!----with this proviso: First---DRY THE BORES!!!!

Well, Dang it. I guess I'm going to have to disagree again.
I have been using Wd40 on guns for over 60 years now. All kinds of guns. Most I still have.
Remington 700 Bought new in 1974. Hunted in rain, snow, ice, dew, fog, heat and cold. Most time 2 days per week during season. Got wiped down inside and out "wipe on, lightly wipe off excess after each day of hunting. Most time the only lubricant used.
Still have that gun. Never a part replaced, never a repair, never a single fail of any kind. Still all original blue, wood and finish. Never ever a speck of rust. Next year it will be 50 years old. And I have no doubt it will still be going 50 years from now.
Same with other rifles, shot guns And handguns I have.
WD gets a lot of undeserved criticism. Mostly internet hog wash and for not doing what it's not advertised to do.
1978 H&R 650 Same.
Now, I do not recommend Wd as the sole lube for most guns. Not at all. But for what it's advertised to do. Highly.
It's fantastic on guns.
Well, I was going to show photos. But can't.
 
As a "long time" police armorer, (hate to say just how long) I've had my more than my share of run in's with WD-40. Police officers love this horrible stuff. Ranks as the #1 worst, right up there with RemOil.

This concoction advertized as a "penetrant" can easily be characterized as the worst thing to introduce into the internal lockwork of any valued firearm.....especially by spraying. After storage, soaking and scraping will be required to remove that "hard as concrete" varnish that forms when this garbage accumulates and sits still for a while.

Do yourself a favor and purchase high quality, recommended products specifically designed to be used on and in firearms.



Carter
 
As a "long time" police armorer, (hate to say just how long) I've had my more than my share of run in's with WD-40. Police officers love this horrible stuff. Ranks as the #1 worst, right up there with RemOil.

This concoction advertized as a "penetrant" can easily be characterized as the worst thing to introduce into the internal lockwork of any valued firearm.....especially by spraying. After storage, soaking and scraping will be required to remove that "hard as concrete" varnish that forms when this garbage accumulates and sits still for a while.

Do yourself a favor and purchase high quality, recommended products specifically designed to be used on and in firearms.



Carter

Ok, Thanks for the warning.
I've only been using Wd for something over 60 years now and haven't seen that " Hard AS Concrete" varnish yet. But maybe in the next 60. I'll keep watching and if I find any I'll do the " Soaking and scraping you say will be "Required".
Again, Thanks for the warning.
 
As a "long time" police armorer, (hate to say just how long) I've had my more than my share of run in's with WD-40. Police officers love this horrible stuff. Ranks as the #1 worst, right up there with RemOil.

This concoction advertized as a "penetrant" can easily be characterized as the worst thing to introduce into the internal lockwork of any valued firearm.....especially by spraying. After storage, soaking and scraping will be required to remove that "hard as concrete" varnish that forms when this garbage accumulates and sits still for a while.

Do yourself a favor and purchase high quality, recommended products specifically designed to be used on and in firearms.



Carter

WD-40 is a great product for certain uses - guns not being one of them. WD-40 gets used in my house to clean tar off of car rims, recondition a stainless steel appliance front, remove black marks from certain painted surfaces, and if I run out of Tap Magic for Aluminum, I will substitute WD-40 while tapping threads until I get the Tap Magic for Aluminum again.

For guns I've been using G96 Synthetic CLP and prior to that Break-free CLP. WD-40 is not a good lubricant or rust inhibitor IMHO but will clean off greasy tools pretty well. Despite what they claim on the label, WD does not get even close to my gun tool box and I do stick with dedicated gun oils and solvents for that purpose. BTW, G96 Gun Oil works GREAT on sliding glass doors too.
 
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WD-40 has its place, but it is not good as a lubricant for firearms. I do use Corrosion X, it is good stuff and a little goes a long way, kind of like Renaissance Wax.
 
I've used a M38 since I got my first in 1979 along with a M42. I think the M38 is the best pocket pistols ever made, with the M49 and M42 close behind. I've never felt the need to remove the side plate. The guns have worked just fine without fiddling around taking the side plate off.

I exclusively carry these in a pocket without pocket holster. I mention my carry method because folks often imagine these models might collect junk around the hammer that might impede functioning, a similar fear to those imagining a need to fiddle removing the side plate. This doesn't happen: no junk collects to interfere with the gun's function.

Folks enjoy fiddling with their guns: most spend a lot less time actually shooting than handing them for cleaning, dry fire and beautifying. No harm in that, but we shouldn't imagine that it's necessary.

I'd leave the side plate alone unless you dropped the gun in a mud puddle and left it there for a while.
 
As a "long time" police armorer, (hate to say just how long) I've had my more than my share of run in's with WD-40. Police officers love this horrible stuff. Ranks as the #1 worst, right up there with RemOil.

I read all your posts, armorer951 and respect your opinions. Your posts make good sense to me. So I'm curious, what's the difficulty with RemOil? I've heard from any number of sources that RemOil is vile stuff ranging anywhere in between ineffective and destructive. And then, some folks claim it's good stuff.

Can you elaborate a bit about RemOil's inadequacies? For the record, I use Super Lube oil and grease, Gun Butter and good ole Lubriplate depending on the application.

Thanks!
 
I read all your posts, armorer951 and respect your opinions. Your posts make good sense to me. So I'm curious, what's the difficulty with RemOil? I've heard from any number of sources that RemOil is vile stuff ranging anywhere in between ineffective and destructive. And then, some folks claim it's good stuff.

Can you elaborate a bit about RemOil's inadequacies? For the record, I use Super Lube oil and grease, Gun Butter and good ole Lubriplate depending on the application.

Thanks!

Many years ago I used Remoil exclusively on my firearms. Never had any issues with it and found it was a descent lubricant and preservative but not a very good cleaner. Not nearly as good as G96 or Breakfree CLP but I never experienced any issues at all. Never had it gum up or turn nasty. While not the best CLP out there, I don't understand why it gets such a bad reputation. The ONLY thing I can think of is that the carrier evaporates fast but does leave protection behind - maybe some believe because the carrier evaporates that it is no longer on the metal.
 
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