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Not sure even what it is,
but it almost looks to answer the question of 'how do I shoot my self while drawing the gun'. Now I have open trigger guards on revolver holsters, and even on a couple of semi auto guns, but on nothing that has a thumb break.
I'll pass.
but it almost looks to answer the question of 'how do I shoot my self while drawing the gun'. Now I have open trigger guards on revolver holsters, and even on a couple of semi auto guns, but on nothing that has a thumb break.
I'll pass.
I don't know either, but it's an interesting design. I'd love to see some other views. Where'd you find it?
That is, of course, only an opinion. Depending on one's training and experience, one might know better than to put a finger in the trigger prior to drawing without needing something to block the path. Of course, the trend these days seems to be to assume everyone is a dope that can't follow instructions, and who might sue over their own negligence. Too bad.
That certainly seems like an older design, OP. Do you actually have it or did you find the photo somewhere? I'd love to find out more about it, more as an historical exercise than anything.
palmettosunshine
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When your trigger is exposed you are at risk for a ND. Period. Regardless of whether you're a dope or not....
Trigger Exposed or Trigger Guarded is a debate much like the helmet debate for motorcycles (or bicycles
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Generally speaking, and in my opinion, a covered trigger is safer. That being said, literally millions of holsters have been sold to military, LEO and civilians over the past couple hundred years with uncovered triggers or with trigger cutouts like the example above.
It is when your attention wanders that you are at risk for an ND.
"Period"
)Generally speaking, and in my opinion, a covered trigger is safer. That being said, literally millions of holsters have been sold to military, LEO and civilians over the past couple hundred years with uncovered triggers or with trigger cutouts like the example above.
It is when your attention wanders that you are at risk for an ND.
"Period"
It looks a little like an El Paso #5 Patton perhaps?
#5 "Patton" Holster
#5 "Patton" Holster
LoboGunLeather
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The pistol looks like a Makarov variant. The holster is a IWB-design with the belt clip removed (leather piece sewn on the outside with two slots to insert and retain the steel clip), unable to identify the maker.
Moonman
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The uncovered trigger leaves open the possibility of too many ND's.
Many LEO's had ND's from the old days in cruisers,
getting in and out of cruisers, reaching to draw on adrenalin.
These are ND that you would never hear about in the newspaper.
Old training had the FINGER ON THE TRIGGER, not so anymore,
and very little time is lost per a recorded test by Massad Ayoob.
Many LEO's had ND's from the old days in cruisers,
getting in and out of cruisers, reaching to draw on adrenalin.
These are ND that you would never hear about in the newspaper.
Old training had the FINGER ON THE TRIGGER, not so anymore,
and very little time is lost per a recorded test by Massad Ayoob.
palmettosunshine
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Trigger Exposed or Trigger Guarded is a debate much like the helmet debate for motorcycles (or bicycles
Generally speaking, and in my opinion, a covered trigger is safer. That being said, literally millions of holsters have been sold to military, LEO and civilians over the past couple hundred years with uncovered triggers or with trigger cutouts like the example above.
It is when your attention wanders that you are at risk for an ND.
"Period"
We agree on the fact that a covered trigger is safer. When your trigger is exposed you have a MUCH greater chance of a ND and your attention can't ALWAYS be on protecting your exposed trigger. Period.
Oh, and just for the record, around here we have term for those that ride without a helmet. "organ donor"
Let the flames begin!
Dikinalaska
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Wasn't this thread meant to identify the equipment?
Yeah, but any time a less-than-politically-correct item shows up, the P.C.-ness becomes the topic.
Sorry guys, it's a generational thing. You were taught to cover up your trigger, I wasn't. We disagree, so what? My apparently not well made point was simply that the liability lobby has us all giving up responsibility for our own action/training/experience, as if we're all too stupid to know what to do, and that all products have to be designed to protect us from ourselves.
No need to do the "My firearms knowledge is better than yours" dance again, OK? Makes us all sound like mall ninjas or something.
Sorry guys, it's a generational thing. You were taught to cover up your trigger, I wasn't. We disagree, so what? My apparently not well made point was simply that the liability lobby has us all giving up responsibility for our own action/training/experience, as if we're all too stupid to know what to do, and that all products have to be designed to protect us from ourselves.
No need to do the "My firearms knowledge is better than yours" dance again, OK? Makes us all sound like mall ninjas or something.
Dikinalaska
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My point exactly. No disrespect intended tho.
palmettosunshine
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You're absolutely right, sorry to take away from the OP's question.
I was an LEO for 30 years and every holster I used, both dept. issued and personally owned, was an open trigger guard design. There was some sort of leather strap over the hammer and not once do I recall a ND that was a result of this holster design. Interestingly enough when we transitioned to the Glock M23 the holster design was a covered trigger and still no ND attributable to holster design, but a few of the other kind of ND.
beemerrider
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I believe the pistol is the Polish "Whambisco-fignut" single-shot semi-auto in 13mm caliber. The holster was made by Roadkill Leather Company of Arkansas. That's a rare and cherished combo.
LoboGunLeather
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Anyone with any experience using a Makarov pistol can tell you that accidental discharge in the double-action mode is very unlikely. Every Makarov I've ever used has required at least 25 pounds of pressure on the trigger to fire it. Without a doubt, the heaviest trigger pull I've ever experienced on a DA semi-auto.
Also, the Makarov features an excellent mechanical safety, locking off the trigger completely and a passive firing pin block.
Safety engaged, impossible to fire. Safety disengaged, very difficult to fire.
Despite any faults we may perceive the Makarov pistols are exceptionally well designed and engineered, extremely reliable, easy to operate and maintain, and elegantly simple in construction. Probably one of the safest semi-auto pistols in the hands of one familiar with the piece, and in just about any type of holster.
williamlayton
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BACK to the original thought.
I like His stuff and that IS a pretty rig.
What has the question about pretty heve to do with anything but pretty?
Blessings
I like His stuff and that IS a pretty rig.
What has the question about pretty heve to do with anything but pretty?
Blessings
