Corona-Hysteria May Hinder Background Checks

[Inusuit]

Our local Sheriff's Department has stopped taking fingerprints which are required for CCW new applications. Renewals are still being processed.

Prior to this insanity, we were fingerprinted 20-30 people per day for employment background checks.

 

[CA Escapee]

I read an article on a Los Angeles news station's website last week where a doctor was waiting in line at a gun shop. The doctor had never owned a gun, but now wanted one to protect his family. He was told to get, "I think it's called a Glock."

The doctor probably doesn't realize he has to take a written safety test, fill out the 4473 and a Dealer's Record Of Sale, (DROS), wait ten 24 hour periods, and then if that goes well return to the gun shop to pick up the pistol. Once the doctor gets back to the shop he'll have to perform a firearm handling test, (finger off the trigger, loading/unloading, rack the slide, safety on/safety off, (if it has one,) etc,) for the salesman. If the doctor can do all that, then he can purchase ammo, (which there won't be any ten days later,) and take his gun home.

I'm betting the good doctor won't own a gun 11 days after that interview in the gun shop took place, and will have to resort to a cell phone/911 to protect his family.

Bill

 

[LostintheOzone]

I have a pistol that should have been here about 2 weeks ago but CMP is running BC's before they ship to FFL. I have a feeling that with the NICS check (always delayed) that the CMP runs and state BC here I'm never going to see that pistol. The good news is I don't need it.

 

[rosewood]

Background checks, we don't need no background checks.

My carry permit in my state negates the need for a check for every purchase. Fill out form, dealer takes pic of permit, you pay, out the door in a few minutes. Easy peasy.

Rosewood

 

[rosewood]

I read an article on a Los Angeles news station's website last week where a doctor was waiting in line at a gun shop. The doctor had never owned a gun, but now wanted one to protect his family. He was told to get, "I think it's called a Glock."

The doctor probably doesn't realize he has to take a written safety test, fill out the 4473 and a Dealer's Record Of Sale, (DROS), wait ten 24 hour periods, and then if that goes well return to the gun shop to pick up the pistol. Once the doctor gets back to the shop he'll have to perform a firearm handling test, (finger off the trigger, loading/unloading, rack the slide, safety on/safety off, (if it has one,) etc,) for the salesman. If the doctor can do all that, then he can purchase ammo, (which there won't be any ten days later,) and take his gun home.

I'm betting the good doctor won't own a gun 11 days after that interview in the gun shop took place, and will have to resort to a cell phone/911 to protect his family.

Bill

Well, maybe there will be some good to all of this. Folks like him will see how convoluted the system is in states like CA and maybe will understand what we go through. Maybe it will encourage him to vote differently. Also, maybe they will see how the left gun grabbers lies and exaggerates everything firearms in a negative light

Rosewood

 

[CA Escapee]

Talked to a friend back behind the Golden Curtain over the weekend and he said a gun shop in Burbank was told by Los Angeles County to shut down. The County considers gun shops "non-essential" and must close.

 

[CA Escapee]

Well, maybe there will be some good to all of this. Folks like him will see how convoluted the system is in states like CA and maybe will understand what we go through. Maybe it will encourage him to vote differently. Also, maybe they will see how the left gun grabbers lies and exaggerates everything firearms in a negative light

Rosewood

Agreed! Plus, I don't know if I'd feel comfortable living next to a gun owner like that.

Any other time I might offer to take them out to a range to show them the basic safety/handling rules, then see if they still want to buy a pistol.

Bill

 

[flagman1776]

In the tiny state of Rhode Island, the governor has enacted an Executive Order extending the waiting period from 7 days to "up to 30 days" because the Police Chiefs can't keep up with the paper work.

 

[BOB FRONSEE]

I live in Black Eagle, Montana
. On the 16th of March I go to Scheels Sporting goods and tell them the gun I want, put my info in the computer and wait for the background check. About 20 minutes later they say it's delayed, they also say that their system updates every 2 hours and they will call me. I call then on the 18th, the 20th and stop in on the 23rd and nothing. On the 27th I go to the sheriff's office to get my concealed carry permit pay, my $55.00, fill out the paper work, get fingerprinted and wait about 40 minutes, they take my picture and say my permit will be sent in 14 to 60 days. So I go back to Scheels and they say there was a error in the spelling of the city I live in by adding an S to the end of the name. They resubmit it, tell me that they can't hold the gun and make me pay for it. I still haven't heard from them as of the 30th.

 

[BC38]

Background checks, we don't need no background checks.

My carry permit in my state negates the need for a check for every purchase. Fill out form, dealer takes pic of permit, you pay, out the door in a few minutes. Easy peasy.

Rosewood

It was almost that way in WA until last year. They ran a NICS check at point of sale and if you had a CCW you took it home with you.
No more. Now it is a 10 day wait.
So you're just the passage of 1 law away from being in the same boat. Never let your guard down.

 

[STCM(SW)]

Took 3 weeks for the last one I got......
Only hope is the state courts will find in not right it looks like.

 

[St0rmshad0w]

They are making a help of money over this, the internet companies too. Just what they wanted. People stuck are home watching Tv and browsing the internet 24/7.

 

[LoboGunLeather]

I made a similar comment on facebook in a thread started by one of my wife's friends. Short version is some lady replied and said with all the guns being sold we'll see a big spike in homicides.

I replied "No. We won't" and then posted the stats on gun sales by year since 1993, which is when the homicide rate peaked in the US. We've made 120 million guns in the US since 1993 and imported another 60 million, and the gun homicide rate has on average declined fairly steadily.

I added my experiences with gun show comments as described above, and stated that I didn't negatively judge any of those people for seeing the need for a gun for personal protection.

However I added that I did judge them negatively for waiting until the last minute, and not getting proper training in both firearm safety and in the laws pertaining to the use of deadly force. The odds are high that some of them will do stupid stuff with their new guns in terms of either a negligent discharge, or getting themselves into legal trouble using a gun when it's not legal or appropriate to do so.

I'm in total agreement that given the greatly reduced presence of firearms in the average home and the now almost non existent exposure to firearms and firearms safety in schools, making some form of gun safety mandatory prior to an initial firearm purchase is a good idea, even if it is just an on-line course they can take in the gunshop in 20-30 minutes prior to the sale (and waiting for the NICS check to through.

I grew up in the 1970s and 80s, and in 6th grade pretty much all the guys and many of the girls took the NRA hunter safety course, which was conducted every spring after school - in one of the classrooms. It was also common for schools to have air rifle and small bore rifle teams. I grew up in a rural area and virtually everyone had a firearm in the home with at least one parent who raised kids with a knowledge of and respect for guns.

Those guns lived in gun racks, unlocked closets, and unlocked glass faced display cabinets. No one got shot.

However that is just not the case today in most areas of the country. Consequently, we need to have some mechanism in place to ensure that gun owners do in fact have some minimum level of training in gun safety. It needs to be free or at a nominal cost of $5 or less, and it needs to be readily available so that it doesn't pose an additional burden, hurdle, or restriction on gun ownership, but that can easily be accomplished.

Over 30 years ago I was a small town police chief. I offered to conduct the NRA Eddie Eagle gun safety program in the public schools (free!). School board and teachers vetoed the idea. This was in a rural area, farm and ranch country, probably 4 of 5 homes had guns. But the "educrats" refused to allow basic firearms safety training.

Go figure.

 

[Fishinfool]

For what its worth, I purchased a handgun and a rifle last week at two different local (central PA) gun shops, and in both cases the required background checks took less than 5 minutes. To relieve overcrowding and maintain social distancing, PA gun shops require you make an appointment, so I don't know if that is making a difference in approval times?

Larry

 

[Rivoak]

What concerns me is not the Kung-Flu per se. It's the hysteria over the Kung-Flu, a hysteria fueled largely by the media. Thanks, big corporate media.

FBI: 300% spike in gun buy checks, huge backlogs, shutdown threatened


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Hey, I don't see this as a bad thing at all. With a huge influx of new purchasers, my LGS is now solvent and profitable. With a huge increase in gun owners, gun control is going to be a losing issue for any candidate threatening to take them. After the crisis is over, those people who bought one but scared to own it will be taking it in for consignment, and there will be some huge bargains. Then a few months after that the price of ammo will drop down and I can stock up again for the next crisis.


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