Cracked Frame On Brand New J Frame Model 60

SuperMan said:
Was that a 60-10 or a 60-15?

I have seen many, too many, cracked aluminum framed guns but never a steel frame. I've owned a 42 which cracked, a 38 which cracked and had a 642 that I sold before it cracked...and I why I now own a Ruger LCR...no cracks....

Bob
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It was a new 60-15 fired only at the factory with a production date of January 2019
 
You will get a new revolver. It is possible that they may have to ship it to your FFL and you have to fill out another new 4473 on a new gun, since it would have different S/N. On the odd chance they do rebuild (use all the innards and barrel & cylinder of current gun) they may be able to stamp the same S/N on the replaced gun.
 
bigggbbruce said:
How much worse can it get..:(

Try that error on an high dollar obsolete collectable..:eek:
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I would like to think that if a high dollar obsolete collectable were involved, I would've had a much keener eye during inspection. Considering this was a brand new (current production and very non obsolete) model, I think my faith that it would be free of a cracked frame was pretty high. I hope I'm not alone in my thinking.
 
I had a 617 with a frame crack. I sent it in and had a new gun in 15 days.


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I'm thinking they're going to take care of you well. A bummer but teaching you delayed gratification. LOL.
 
Bad things happen to good people. High quality does not mean perfect. Let us know how it is made good for you. Sorry that you had to mess with it.
 
That's so odd for a supposedly brand new gun. The dirtiness only adds to how odd it is. I guess anything can happen, it just doesn't make much sense. Also doesn't make sense that there is a possibility it was cracked like that in the old owner's possession but he never noticed. At least you'll be made right, but that's pretty egregious all around.
 
M29since14 said:
You might be surprised. :D


The truth is, this gun might have been fine when it left S&W. Since none of us saw it before it went out the door, obviously we don't know.
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You're absolutely right. This is something that has bugged me ever since I sent the gun back. One horrible scenario I have playing in my head is... what if the gun was fine leaving the factory and someone at the online retailer has been shooting the heck out of it and it cracked during this time? I doubt this scenario because the cylinder's dirtiness didn't seem to match the frame with burn rings only around two chambers. This would also make the retailer a very low piece of doo doo. But another reason I doubt this is because the "born on date" on the box was only January of 2019. Overall I try to think of people (especially FFLs) as honest people unless there's blatant evidence. So I'm extremely hesitant to go down the route of the FFL I bought it from as having any knowledge of the crack.

In any case, a cracked frame no matter when it happened is still a major problem. At this point, I'd rather not speculate since I can't confirm when it happened.
 
My 642 cracked exactly like that in exact same spot. I guess thats a weak spot in the S&W design ?Got me brand new one in return. This was about 5 years ago.
 
337vegasstrong said:
This is something that has bugged me ever since I sent the gun back. One horrible scenario I have playing in my head is... what if the gun was fine leaving the factory and someone at the online retailer has been shooting the heck out of it and it cracked during this time? I doubt this scenario because the cylinder's dirtiness didn't seem to match the frame with burn rings only around two chambers. This would also make the retailer a very low piece of doo doo. But another reason I doubt this is because the "born on date" on the box was only January of 2019. Overall I try to think of people (especially FFLs) as honest people unless there's blatant evidence. So I'm extremely hesitant to go down the route of the FFL I bought it from as having any knowledge of the crack.

In any case, a cracked frame no matter when it happened is still a major problem. At this point, I'd rather not speculate since I can't confirm when it happened.
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With the evidence of two dirty spots on the cylinder face (fitting the factory test protocol of testing every other charge hole), I think the seller is unlikely to have been the cause of the crack by extensive firing. It's not exactly the latest tacticool 33 round plastic wonder that they would just have to try out. :)
 
murphydog said:
It's not exactly the latest tacticool 33 round plastic wonder that they would just have to try out. :)
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On the other hand, they could've said, "What is this thing...? How does it work? I've never tried one of these old-fashioned...what's it called? Re-vol-ver...?"

:D
 
Dave T said:
I am saddened by the number of people making excuses for Smith's nearly lacking QC. Current policy seems to be ship them out as fast as you can, fix quality control later with a shipping label.

And you're right, I'm old and grumpy.

Dave
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S&W will take care of the issue.
I'm sure folks have forgiven you a few mistakes.
I know I have made a few.
 
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