CS45 safe to carry

[Corpsman]

Hello everyone ---

I have been told that it is safe to carry a CS45 with a round in the chamber and that after decocking, the "safety" decocker can be put in the up - fire position. I was told that the only way for the gun to discharge is if the trigger is fully to the rear, even if it is dropped. I was also told that on certain models made for LEO, the decocker is spring loaded to return to the fire position automatically. Is this true? Thanks in advance for any info -----

 

[WoodLark]

It is as safe as any DA/SA semi-automatic or revolver. The safety comes from the greater amount of force needed to operate the trigger in the DA mode. Like any gun, keep your finger off the trigger until ready to fire and use a holster that covers the trigger to prevent it from being accidentally actuated.

This is the way I carry my 6906 all the time, and it is functionally the same as a CS45 or any other 3rd generation S&W. I actually prefer the guns that automatically return to the firing position after decocking, but they are harder to find (my FNP9 works that way).

 

[Corpsman]

Thanks for the info WoodLark -that is the way I carry also as the decocker/safety is hard for me to reach and operate when drawing from a holster ---

 

[kbm6893]

It's fully safe, but I do not understand why people get a gun with a safety and then do not train to use it. Train yourself to flick the safety off on the draw, even if you carry it safety off. The safety could have engaged accidentally. If you don't want a safety, get a DAO version of the gun you have.

 

[Corpsman]

Good thoughts - thanks for the advice

 

[SMMAssociates]

Corpsman:

kbm6893 is probably correct, but many of us end up with smaller guns (like the CS45) as a BUG or something to that effect, and our EDC or Duty guns have safeties that are backwards, (i.e., a 1911), making getting the safety lever pushed the correct way a little problematical.

You probably shouldn't do that, but the nasty DA pull of the CS45, as well as it being available with just a decocker, pretty much make that tolerable. Just treat it like a decocker....

Mines an "airline travel" gun - one that I'd not mind a check for on the return leg , but it's also solid, shoots well, and reliable. It's just HUGE.... The M&P40C is just so much better....

Using this rationale, btw, assuming the gun can be carried safely this way (forget it with a 1911, including Para's "LDA" guns - can't convince their marketing people about that!), makes about any "backwards" gun like the S&W's serviceable as a BUG or other "spare" gun. It's easier to try to swipe the safety off and miss it entirely than to have to try to remember that it goes the other way.... Not to mention the stock safety lever being a little iffy in the first place.

Regards,

 

[tpd223]

Yes the guns are drop safe.

I once was on belay and watched a loaded 5906 come out of a holster, and drop seven floors to the concrete right in front of me, landed on the hammer, didn't go off.


As to the safety, training to get it to fire is very good advice.

I carried mine on safe at work for almost 20 years, the S&W safety works just fine if you train for it.

 

[Corpsman]

Thanks to all for the advice and sharring their knowledge with me

 

[Bullman]

Something that no one has mentioned yet is that what makes it safe is the firing pin is prevented from traveling all the way forward by a plunger unless the trigger is pulled all the way to the rear. You can have your gun converted to DAO, which would eliminate the safety lever entirely. I believe there are several members on here who have had the S and W performance center do this for them. It costs some coin, and it will be a better DA than what you have now, as you can have it done so it is precocked, sort of like a glock, but it will not be the same sort of trigger pull. You will also not have any second strike capability, you would have to rack the slide for another try, which doesn't bother most folks familiar with malfunction drills anyway.

 

[Corpsman]

Thanks Bullman - that is what I was wondering - if the firing pin could hit the primer if the gun were dropped. Some guns have firing pins that the momentum of a fall can cause it to strike the primer. Thanks for the answer --------