CS9C Plastic Parts Question?

[zdfwflyer]

I have a new to me CS9C, and want to eliminate if possible as many of the plastic parts it came with.
I found a metal recoil guide rod from Midway, which came with metal plunger.
I am checking out night sights to replace the plastic Novak clone at rear.
Any recommendation for source and good price is appreciated.
I wonder if anyone has put the Trijicon SA30 for CS40/45 that are on clearance for $40. They look like same slot size, but maybe 1/8 inch higher. I have seen comments here that the CS9 shoots lowso that would be a fix. Has anyone used these, or the XS big dot set on a CS9?
Also saw here that disconnector may be plastic but may have been in ref to a CS45?
I can't tell from looking and don't want to scratch with scribe to find out.
If CS9 disconnector is pastic does anyone know which S&W model has a compatibile metal part?
Thanks

 

[retired2006]

I have a CS9 also, and might add a couple of things. Mine also shoots low, so to correct you will either need to lower the front sight, or raise the rear sight. As the CS9 has a pretty low front sight now, I thing any adjustment will have to come from the rear sight, either by replacement, or installing a shim under the rear blade, that's what I did. The plastic rear sight is flexible enough to drive a screwdriver between the sight and slide, and then install a homemade shim. I have had no problems so far.
I would be interested in night sights also, where did you see the sights for 40.00 clearance ? One thing to question about those clearance sights is how old are they ? Night sights have a life span of about 10 years, if they are old, they may not be a bargain in the long run.
I believe you are right about the disconnector, mine looks plastic alos, but I don't know enough to give you a metal replacement part suggestion.

 

[jfd]

CS9

Mr.Z----could be wrong but belief "cruiserRN", a frequenter forum poster and CS9 owner, has posted about replacing his factory sights with Trijicons. Maybe he'll weigh in but if not you could always PM him. Sounds like a great price, might consider it myself. Sorry I can't help with your other questions.

 

[zdfwflyer]

clearance price $40 Trijicon SA30 for CS40/45

The link from a CS45 thread is below;

Trijicon SA30

The cheapest SA29 for CS9 is from Optics Planet $125.

The pictures of SA30 look as if the ears of the rear sight are about 1/8 inch taller than the SA29. Also not as sleek lookng as Novak style.
Some other CS45 pictures show the XS big dot, and boy is that rear sight tall, looks at least 1/2 inch up from slide! XS does not list a CS9 sight, unfortunately, as they are only about 5 miles from home here in DFW and installed the big dot on my Kahr PM9 for free.

I plan to take my CS9 rear sight to FT WORTH gun show this weekend to see if any of the Laserlyte rear sight replacements has a dovetail the same size or close enough to file to fit.

 

[Cruiser RN]

Hi.You are already @ the place to get the CS9 parts Shop Shooting Supplies | Reloading | Gunsmithing | Hunting gear — MidwayUSA I replaced the Novak sights with the Trijicon Night Sights and the change had the added bonus of bringing the gun to exact point of aim as opposed to shooting low with the Novaks.I also had mine converted to DAO as I am a long time Double Action Revolver shooter.Also with my small hands and gun printing issues I was looking to get rid of those Hogue grips.I had seen G's CS45 and CS40 grips and asked if he made them for the CS9.He didn't and we teamed up to get the CS9 Custom grips into production.Grip#1 is on my gun with the inprovements and the Gator treatment.Now a good carry semi-auto is my perfect carry semi-auto....All the best and God Bless....Mike

 

[Fastbolt]

Use a magnet to see if the 1-piece guide rod in your CS9 is metal. I can't remember what the earliest (blue) models had in them, but they've been using steel rods for the last several years. I've tried both plastic & steel rod plungers in my CS guns and have decided the plastic ones are fine.

The plastic disconnectors are fine. I've been told that in actual endurance testing they equaled the older steel disconnectors, and actually did better, overall.

The plastic ones offer the advantages of having less friction when moving up & down the drawbar disconnector tab, and once they were in widespread usage the armorer class no longer had to teach armorers how to resolve long-tail disconnector problems.

The plastic Novak style sights were used on the early guns, but S&W switched to steel Novak Low Mounts in the newer production guns. I've installed a few different sights on different CS guns and it's pretty much up to the preference of the owner. I keep meaning to get around to putting night sights on my own CS9, but it's far down on my project list.

 

[zdfwflyer]

plastic plunger

Fastbolt,
My guide rod was steel, but plunger was nylon.
I had big problems in aligning the guide rod bushing and plunger in reassembly, maybe my bushing is deformed or frame hole too tight.
The slide would just not go back even if the ejector and safety levers were fully depresed and plunger was not visible in slide stop hole.
I finally began pulling out the plunger 1/4 inch from rod and it helped in guideing bushing in to where tip of plunger was visible in slide stop pin hole.
The plunger was already cut and gouged when I got gun so I may have inherited a one off problem.
I wondered why I got it for $400!
However, with new metal plunger (GR/spring & plunger $17 from Midway) it snaps into place with just a wiggle of breech as slide passes over ejector/levers.
Checking S&W part list it seems ALL the CS9/40/45 have same part number for disconnector, so not sure where someone claimed to get a SS one? Maybe from a PC gun?
Thanks for the advice.

 

[Fastbolt]

The steel disconnectors were phased out starting in the middle/late 90's.

Probably any number of them floating around from parts suppliers. I certainly wouldn't be surprised if S&W (factory or PC) held some back for whatever reasons, too.

I kept a bunch of the steel ones as spare parts, but I use the plastic ones in all my guns.

The weakness of the plastic part is mostly connected to assembly & disassembly of the frame. If a production assembler/armorer/gunsmith isn't paying attention and tries to lever the disconnector tail around the drawbar's disconnector tab with too much force, the tail can snap off. Once it's in place, it's not subjected to that sort of pressure or force during normal operation.

The only thing I've noticed with the new steel guide rod plungers is that they have more surface to contact the slides top lever's pin cutout, and they can acquire burred edges. Sometimes the increased size makes it a bit harder to disassemble/reassemble some guns, but nothing terrible.

I've also sometimes (not often) come across a frame where the hole which captures the plunger has a burr.