CZ 75B

Thank you for the continued responses, all! Stuart, no plans for CCW carry, but whichever one I choose (although my desire for the CZ is growing exponentially by the response), it will become my primary house gun more than likely.
 
I often say they are the best brand you've never heard of. I bought my first CZ a few years ago, and now have 5 plus a higher end clone. The triggers out of the box can be a little heavy and gritty especially the DA, but they smooth out after some rounds and really respond to a little (springs) or a lot of upgrades. If someone wanted to really improve the triggers they can be absolutely amazing. Cajun Gun Works and CZ Custom both make parts if anyone really wanted to improve the triggers. Other than the obvious awesome ergos, soft shooting, trigger quality, and accuracy the other thing I like about CZ is the support. There are a number of members from CGW and CZC that post often on various forums. David from CGW even went so far as to give a detailed post with pictures on how and where to polish to smooth the trigger up.

The Omega trigger is a little simpler (cheaper to make), but unless you are looking at the Polymer P-07/P09 I would get a regular 75B. The 75 Omega basically has no parts upgrade path. The Omega's can be a little better out of the box, but the reset is really long. If nightstand duty is the plan and you might want to put a light on it check out the railed SP-01 models.
 
not sure if the kadet is still available as just the slide, barrel, mag......know it comes as a complete pistol.
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Think you have that backwards, CZ used to offer the 22lr Kadet as a whole gun or as a conversion kit upper ,
They now only offer the conversion kit upper .

Here is the bad news, The .22lr CZ75B Kadet (whole gun) was around $800 when they were available , The upper conversion is around $450 (comes with one mag) and the spare magazines are around $45, also they only hold only 10 rounds.... :( and the mags are cheap painted metal with plastic lower half ... :(

This is very strange considering the 9mm CZ75B (whole gun) is around $550 with 2 high quality 16 shot MecGar black chrome mags :D

In the convertible 22lr /9mm market I recently found out Sig Saur offers a complete .22lr handgun built on either their P-226 or P229 frame for around $500 (one mag) but you can purchase a 9mm , 40, 357 sig upper for around $300 that drop on the .22lr frame.

I love the CZ Kadet but Sig has them beat for price and value if the Sig Saur P226 or P229 in 22lr is as good as people claim it is.
 
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Think you have that backwards, CZ used to offer the 22lr Kadet as a whole gun or as a conversion kit upper ,
They now only offer the conversion kit upper .

Here is the bad news, The .22lr CZ75B Kadet (whole gun) was around $800 when they were available , The upper conversion is around $450 (comes with one mag) and the spare magazines are around $45, also they only hold only 10 rounds.... :( and the mags are cheap painted metal with plastic lower half ... :(

This is very strange considering the 9mm CZ75B (whole gun) is around $500 with 2 high quality 16 shot MecGar black chrome mags :D

In the convertible 22lr /9mm market I recently found out Sig Saur offers a complete .22lr handgun built on either their P-226 or P229 frame for around $500 (one mag) but you can purchase a 9mm , 40, 357 sig upper for around $300 that drop on the .22lr frame.

I love the CZ Kadet but Sig has them beat for price and value if the Sig Saur P226 or P229 in 22lr is as good as people claim it is.
I did a bit of research on the kadet after "samnev" mentioned it. Price is a bit much for me for a conversion kit so I will probably not be in too big a hurry to get that. Plus I have my dad's old Ruger Standard that I have a bunch of ammo to put through.
 
I waited about three decades++ to own a 9mm pistol. About 10 years ago I found a CZ85DB like new in the box. Used still unfired marked $300. There wasn't a mark on the pistol. I'm glad I waited and got the cz. I been thinking about a CZ75 in polished stainless next. I think there the best buy out there. The cz quality is also in the cz82 & cz 83 too.
 
75 D Compact. Will never let you down.
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I was referring to the single action trigger in my previous post.

The DA trigger pull is smooth and not-too-heavy, I don't prefer the CZ DA pull to, say, the Glock 19, but it's totally manageable and, FWIW, I never use it anyway. Just rack the slide and it's all SA.
 
75 D Compact. Will never let you down.
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I totally agree as I have the LW compact also. I used to have the full size mod.75B and it was great just a bit heavy for CC.
Between my CZ Compact and my S&W 642 they are the guns I carry the most. The S&W 642 gets the most use for carry as its just so easy to slip it and the Nemisis into my pocket.
 
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I own five CZ 75's and 85's as well as a 97 in 45acp and I love them, in my humble opinion they are the BEST 9mm semi auto pistol ever made. As good as anything Sig or HK makes.

I know thats a big statement but I think it would be hard if not impossible to prove me wrong, for durability, accuracy, ergonomics, price and just plain old good looks they are at the top of my semi auto list.
 
I own five CZ 75's and 85's as well as a 97 in 45acp and I love them, in my humble opinion they are the BEST 9mm semi auto pistol ever made. As good as anything Sig or HK makes.

I know thats a big statement but I think it would be hard if not impossible to prove me wrong, for durability, accuracy, ergonomics, price and just plain old good looks they are at the top of my semi auto list.

On all 5 points yes on durability it's not hard. They are reliable but not to that extent. HK for instance guarantees nothing need to be changed or replaced for the 1st 100k rounds. A few years ago CZ had problems with the slide stop breaking and seizing the guns. It was fixed of course.

They don't do too well with high round count in class settings without mods. The fact that they include, or at least included, 5 (FIVE) extra slide stops with their competition guns should be a clue.

I had to borrow this from another person who put it much better than I could

"I think a lot of people are taking certain things out of context too.

I, please note, i, believe that the aforementioned instructors are making those statements based upon one thing alone and that thing is the question of why?

Why go with a CZ for a defensive pistol when you could get a Glock or any other "wonder nine" that will last you arguably twice as long, is easier to work on and is WAY lighter.

Parts are abundant for the modern polymer service pistols, they're all relatively proven at this point so again, why? Just to be different? There is nothing interesting, entertaining or rewarding about being different if you're buying a tool to defend your life with.

Go with what works, learn to shoot it well and call it a day.

Now, conversely, IF you want a toy to play around with, if you're looking for a competition gun then there is absolutely NOTHING wrong with a CZ as they are FANTASTIC guns and offer many advantages and very few disadvantages.

Glocks are popular for their simplicity and simplicity is good when it comes to tools."
 
If I wanted a toy I'd buy a train set.
I don't like the way glock sets in my hand. Is that alright with you? (Or whoever you quoted):D
And I have to add, whoever you quoted has an opinion. He thinks one of the most well distributed combat and law enforcement handguns (CZ) is a toy. That pretty much shows me where he's actually been in tHe real world of conflict and defense. Most of the people that carry glocks carry them because they are issued. A lot of them aren't gun people.
MY gun fits MY hand and it has proven to be reliable, for a long time, in some nasty conditions and situations.
That's MY opinion, not necessarily someone else.
Now Jeff Coopers opinion I like.
 
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I have a 75 - Semi Compact and would not sell or trade it. Flawless reliability, nice trigger out of the box, looks good and is a double stacked. All of that and accuracy to boot. Yes, it's heavy - it's suppose to be cuz it's steel.
 
If I wanted a toy I'd buy a train set.
I don't like the way glock sets in my hand. Is that alright with you? (Or whoever you quoted):D
And I have to add, whoever you quoted has an opinion. He thinks one of the most well distributed combat and law enforcement handguns (CZ) is a toy. That pretty much shows me where he's actually been in tHe real world of conflict and defense. Most of the people that carry glocks carry them because they are issued. A lot of them aren't gun people.
MY gun fits MY hand and it has proven to be reliable, for a long time, in some nasty conditions and situations.
That's MY opinion, not necessarily someone else.
Now Jeff Coopers opinion I like.

They arnt all that widely used. About 20 countries. Glock 19 is 50+ countries.

Toy trains lol. Much better then CZ's Fram cracking.

Well Jeff said it so that's it should be law!
 
You quoted someone else, you can have it.
Your ignorance of who chooses to use them is not uncommon. Glock sells to a lot of governments that issue them to a lot of employees.
Service forces in Israel, Egypt, Mexico and our Delta Force don't use glock. They choose CZ. Choose, not issued.
 
I bought my CZ 75 brand new in 1986. It was the first one I had ever seen, other than in photographs. I think it is one of the very best 9 mm defensive pistols available. I have put thousands of rounds through it without a single malfunction. I could not have cared less what Jeff Cooper or any other blowhard said about it; I liked it because it kicked ***. I ordered it from an ad in the Shotgun News, and when I first opened the box, the pistol seemed to me like it was something from another planet.

How 'bout them groovy Communist colors on the box???

I bought the walnut grips at a gun shop in Nuremberg, West Germany, when I was there in 1989.

The holster is made by Ross, in South Africa, a country which the U.S. and other misinformed nations were boycotting at the time. I bought it while in Vienna, Austria in 1991 (IIRC).
 

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A friend of mine shoots a CZ 75B 9mm in USPSA and has over 135,000 rounds downrange without issues ( he did replace mainsprings however)....as many of you know USPSA shooting is hard on guns....if it has a weak spot it WILL show up soon!!

(The only reason Mike knows how many rounds downrange is he kept all of his Montana Gold bulk buy boxes to put brass into.) I learned that trick from him...

Randy

PS.
I REALLY like the CZ's I have which is 5-6...one of my favorites is the CZ40B which was a joint venture with Colt and CZ...was only in production about 2-3 years...uses a regular CZ 75 Magazine however. Grip angle is just like a 1911, with a dbl. stack .40 magazine (12 rnd)....does this gun shoot!!!
 
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You know what's crazy? I got it in my head I wanted a CZ75B back when CZ had a fire at their manufacturing plant. CZ75B's, in particular the matte stainless, couldn't be found. What did I do? I bought a couple mags and a set of CZ checkered wood grips. Might as well stock up on the things I'll need while waiting for supply to return.

Fast forward to today. I still have the extra mags and grip panels. What I don't have is a CZ75B Matte Stainless. Every time I hold a CZ, I fall in love. When I dry fire the trigger, I fall right out of love. I'm on the fence.

Last night, I picked up a brand new matte stainless CZ75b from my FFL in the Chicago suburbs. I cleaned her up today and she's ready for the range. The trigger on this one is excellent. The test target is dated 3-19-2015. A couple of pics:
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Last night, I picked up a brand new matte stainless CZ75b from my FFL in the Chicago suburbs. I cleaned her up today and she's ready for the range. The trigger on this one is excellent. The test target is dated 3-19-2015. A couple of pics:
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I picked up a 75B in polished stainless a few weeks ago and love it. Nice trigger, soft shooting, small and consistent groups. Unexpected side benefit was the upturned beavertail which is not what was pictured on the company website. The only drawback were the sights. Going to try some bright paint or nail polish on them.

That's one handsome firearm with a matte finish. Congratulations on your new CZ.
 
I own a CZ75, CZ75B, CZ75 Retro, CZ85, CZ Polished Stainless and CZ97.
I have owed Three Glocks, that I own no more, don't like the feel,trigger or balance.

I currently own Semi auto pistols from, HK, Sig, S&W, Colt, Browing, Walther, Beretta and Ruger.

My go to semi auto pistol without question or hesitation are my CZ's

Enough said.
 
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Thought I'd post a pic for you CZ guys. This is after lots of work and some CGW parts. You can see the hammer.
Out of the box this had the grittiest trigger I ever pulled. I was thinking about getting rid of it, but the grip fit my hand so well and it was such a nice shooter. I spent $200 on parts and the improvement was dramatic. But, like I said it was traded for a M1a.
I'm buying a 9mm soon (my present to me!) and it's down to a CZ 75b SA or a Springfield Armory R.O. in 9mm. I'd love another CZ but I know I'm going to have to spend dollars to get the trigger I want. Add it up it's more than just buying the Springer. I have a Ed Brown jig so stoning some parts and tuning the springs will have a killer trigger for the Springfield. My target loaded came out nice. Hate to say it but I'm leaning towards another 1911.
 

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