Dark Winds and the .44

[CDL357]

Thanks for a great thread. Just ordered the book and first season dvd.

 

[S&W Fan]

So the 29 that is/was in the NRA museum and presented to screenwriter John Milius isn’t the real deal?? Well I’m confused

 

[Stephanie B]

I started to watch this series because I've read ALL of Hillerman's novels. I don't think I made past the second episode because they changed Chee to an undercover FBI agent that doesn't even speak Navajo instead of the idealistic mystical shaman?

It would be fine if they just adapted it and didn't completely change the characters. The scenery was great though.

I enjoy the actors, especially Zahn McClarnon and the locales. But yes, the shows have not more more relationship to the books than the names and the locations.

When Robert B. Parker was asked about the movies and shows having no real matchup to the books, he said "the books are the books, the movies are the movies and the money is the money."

And so it may be here.

 

[pmhayden]

There were no factory .45 Colt S&W revolvers being produced when Dirty Harry was made (1971).

A retired gunsmith whom I believe is truthful told me he reamed a Model 29 cylinder to 45 LC for the gun used in one of the Dirty Harry movies. For blanks.

 

[stansdds]

A retired gunsmith whom I believe is truthful told me he reamed a Model 29 cylinder to 45 LC for the gun used in one of the Dirty Harry movies. For blanks.

I could see that happening as 45 Colt blanks were very common at the time, courtesy of all those western movies and TV shows. In Miami Vice, Sonny Crockett's Bren Ten was not chambered in 10mm, but was chambered in 45 ACP due to there not being any 10mm blanks. Tom Sellek's 1911-A1 used in Magnum PI was chambered in 9mm due to not having 45 ACP blanks available in Hawaii, but 9mm blanks were available.

 

[mtgianni]

Yes, Hollywood in any of it's locations has always valued thrills over truth.

 

[bruce381]

was i seeing thing in the latest episode Bernadette had a python or diamond back but when bad guy takes it from other bad guy was A 27?

 

[Bobbysixkiller]

My dad carried a 29-2 as a state trooper here in nw Oklahoma. I still shoot it now and then. And I think dark winds is an amazing show to boot.

 

[pharmer]

Leaphorn doesn't appear to have reloads on his crowded duty belt. Maybe I missed the the double speedloader pouch. Good 1st episode. Joe

 

[SlamFire]

Dirty Harry could have been using rubber prop guns in some episodes. The Arms and the Man magazine had a long article on rubber Colt Walker's that Clint Eastwood used in several scenes in Josey Wales. Nothing you see in a movie has to be real, just has to look real. Usually action sequences are put together from multiple shots, using stunt men, at different times, on different days. Nothing has to be done at the same time, with the same people, nor the same props.

 

[642Fan]

Season 3 is out. Sadly I don't have AMC+



I will have to wait for Netflix to pick it up.

 

[Rodan]

We wait for all the episodes to drop, subscribe for a month, watch what we want and cancel the subscription.

With all the different streaming services out there, that's the only way to avoid paying satellite/cable prices every month!

 

[642Fan]

We wait for all the episodes to drop, subscribe for a month, watch what we want and cancel the subscription.

With all the different streaming services out there, that's the only way to avoid paying satellite/cable prices every month!

That's a good idea.

We actually did that with Netflix 5 years ago and we got hooked and stayed.

Thanks.

 

[Rodan]

Netflix, Prime and Hulu are our only full-time subscriptions. Everything else comes/goes when content we want to watch comes up. Many of them are available to add/delete as add-ons if you have Prime. Makes things pretty easy.

Content is spread over too many services at this point to full time subscribe to all of them!

 

[Mike SC Hunter]

A retired gunsmith whom I believe is truthful told me he reamed a Model 29 cylinder to 45 LC for the gun used in one of the Dirty Harry movies. For blanks.

This is probably about the 5Th tale I've read on DH's 29. And they keep coming......IE...Search John Milus.

 

[joepicariello]

Model 29 of Joe Leaphorn

My Favorite Modern Western, "Dark Winds" is on Netflix. It is set in 1971

A Smith & Wesson Model 29 is carried by Lt. Leaphorn (Zahn McClarnon) as his primary sidearm. The revolver is outfitted with factory target grips. The Model 29 is a heavy caliber revolver for law enforcement use (apologies to Harry Callahan), but it wasn't unheard of to be carried by officers in the sixties and seventies who worked large rural areas with little to no back-up.

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When Joe Leaphorn cocks his Model 29 there is no firing pin on the hammer . It is a newer version with the firing pin on the frame. This version was not available in early 1970s

 

[Photog]

Started off in Detroit in 1978 with a 6.5 inch 29-2 while I waited for my police order 29-2 4 inch. Carried the Remington Mid Level loads that had a flat nosed conical bullet at around 900 fps, as we couldn't carry hollow points. Only the bad guys could.

I really liked that Remington load. Shot well out of all my M29's and actually used it in bowling pin matches.

 

[WR Moore]

I started watching season 1 and the differences between books and show caused me to lose interest fast. I've restarted in season 3 (nothing else on) and noticed some things that take me back to those days of yesteryear.

Leaphorn now has his gun in a period correct Don Hume Border Patrol holster with the usual (for the time) ridiculous outboard cant. (Caused by idiots using the gun butt as a hand support.) Speed loader pouches (not usual at the time) seem to come and go. The hand radio seems strange. Back in them thar days, a car mounted radio-often with a whip antenna outside cities/small jurisdictions-was the usual system even in some major cities.

But, as at least one has noted, it's pretend.

 

[SGT ROCK 11B]

Having read the books years ago I had another ideal what they should have done.

Still better than most series on tv now. JMHO, Sarge

 

[-BTM-]

Ok I’ll play. Let’s say the big bad guy, Colton wolf, was around 35 years old. In the flashback to his mother, he was maybe 15 at the oldest. So 20 years before, making it 1951.

I’d swear the gun in that scene was a S&W that had a full underlug. I don’t think it was a python. Impossible for that era?