Mickey D
Member
Aussie, we must be too old (read...mature) to play zombie games. There seems to be a generation that uses that term for everything they feel is a threat. It also disguises their need to use derogatory ethnic slang, IMO.
Dealing with the potentiality of a zombie attack
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Aussie44
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I think your right Mickey...I still say he's a Toolhead though.
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wildfiresrozes
Member
I think it adds to the whole 'kids think guns are games' issue, as well. If grown people are talking about 'when the zombies attack', it kind of puts the wrong idea into kids heads. Whether you know you are 'using metaphors' or that it's 'just a scenario', kids don't understand that...just part of the problem.
Plus, if big brothers are reading any of it, our 2a issue is not helped at all.
JMO.
Plus, if big brothers are reading any of it, our 2a issue is not helped at all.
JMO.
Mickey D
Member
Tool = Aussie slang for Penis?
f150guy
Member
WHEN the Zombies arrive, i am grabbing the wife and dog, and of course whatever firepower and ammunition didn't go down with the boat. That should suffice until I get to the ARMORY (Robo's house)
Wheelgunner840
Member
Haku, you have it wrong. Not a metaphor, but fiction.
Aussie44, Mickey D, and WF Rozes,
I wrote this in another thread, and just did a copy and past here, because I think that it fits in with what you are saying, although I strongly disagree with your premises. Zombie threads that discuss how to defeat them is NOT a metaphor for anything in reality. Read on please.
Zombie threads are great because we get to theorize and extrapolate. (That's not a dirty word Lee! ) The zombie scenarios have something that no other creature living or dead can duplicate. You have something that needs killing that is already dead. We now need to come up with ways to stop them.
This means applying realistic solutions to an unrealistic problem. One definately needs to think outside the box. I find that to be an interesting puzzle to solve.
Problem number one: They multiply their ranks faster than a herd of bunny's in heat by turning anybody they bite into one of them.
Problem number two: Like the energizer bunny, they keep going and going, and going... The only way to stop them is to take away their mobility, or destroy the re-animating organ that replaces the human brain. A legless crawling zombie can still inflict a bite, as can a severed head.
Problem three: They are so numerous, that you will run out of ammo and supplies such as food and water long before you run out of zombies. Think army ants.
So there you have it. A situation unlike anything else. No wonder we are fascinated by the problem that needs solving. "The Zombie Survival Guide" by Max Brooks is making it's rounds in a perpetual Karma. Read it, put your forum name on the cover and send it along. Soon we will all be prepared!
I also strongly suggest reading, "World War Z" by the same author.
"No place is safe, only safer!"
Having said that, the whole Zombie thing is not synonomous with uprisings, civil diorder, or anything else that can be found in the real world. It is just a fun brain excercise. The zombie movies just put all the potential solutions in a viewable format. They are actually scary in that almost nothing will totally defeat them.
I think that this is the most brain teasing part of it. No one has been able to come up with a way to actually win against a zombie outbreak. It is a tactical brain teaser that has nothing to do with reality. If the anti-gunners see it as a way to paint us all as nut jobs, they are truly as brain dead as the zombies of fiction.
WG840
Aussie44, Mickey D, and WF Rozes,
I wrote this in another thread, and just did a copy and past here, because I think that it fits in with what you are saying, although I strongly disagree with your premises. Zombie threads that discuss how to defeat them is NOT a metaphor for anything in reality. Read on please.
Zombie threads are great because we get to theorize and extrapolate. (That's not a dirty word Lee! ) The zombie scenarios have something that no other creature living or dead can duplicate. You have something that needs killing that is already dead. We now need to come up with ways to stop them.
This means applying realistic solutions to an unrealistic problem. One definately needs to think outside the box. I find that to be an interesting puzzle to solve.
Problem number one: They multiply their ranks faster than a herd of bunny's in heat by turning anybody they bite into one of them.
Problem number two: Like the energizer bunny, they keep going and going, and going... The only way to stop them is to take away their mobility, or destroy the re-animating organ that replaces the human brain. A legless crawling zombie can still inflict a bite, as can a severed head.
Problem three: They are so numerous, that you will run out of ammo and supplies such as food and water long before you run out of zombies. Think army ants.
So there you have it. A situation unlike anything else. No wonder we are fascinated by the problem that needs solving. "The Zombie Survival Guide" by Max Brooks is making it's rounds in a perpetual Karma. Read it, put your forum name on the cover and send it along. Soon we will all be prepared!
I also strongly suggest reading, "World War Z" by the same author.
"No place is safe, only safer!"
Having said that, the whole Zombie thing is not synonomous with uprisings, civil diorder, or anything else that can be found in the real world. It is just a fun brain excercise. The zombie movies just put all the potential solutions in a viewable format. They are actually scary in that almost nothing will totally defeat them.
I think that this is the most brain teasing part of it. No one has been able to come up with a way to actually win against a zombie outbreak. It is a tactical brain teaser that has nothing to do with reality. If the anti-gunners see it as a way to paint us all as nut jobs, they are truly as brain dead as the zombies of fiction.
WG840
TNDixieGirl
Member
Agreed. Makes the anti crowd think they're right with their "gun nut" description too.
I can just hear them now..."Yep, they're all nuts. Just check out the S&W forum and they're screaming about zombies AGAIN".
Wheelgunner840
Member
Originally posted by TNDixieGirl:
Agreed. Makes the anti crowd think they're right with their "gun nut" description too.
I can just hear them now..."Yep, they're all nuts. Just check out the S&W forum and they're screaming about zombies AGAIN".
I disagree. No sane person could think that this is any different than discussing any other kind of fiction. With all the important things going on right now, we need a little levity. If this is what anti-gunners of any importance have to hang their hat on, they have already lost.
Please see my post above.
Mickey D
Member
But we aren't talking about "sane" people outside the gun crowd.Originally posted by Wheelgunner840:
Originally posted by TNDixieGirl:
Agreed. Makes the anti crowd think they're right with their "gun nut" description too.
I can just hear them now..."Yep, they're all nuts. Just check out the S&W forum and they're screaming about zombies AGAIN".
I disagree. No sane person could think that this is any different than discussing any other kind of fiction. With all the important things going on right now, we need a little levity. If this is what anti-gunners of any importance have to hang their hat on, they have already lost.
Please see my post above.
I refuse to play the zombie game.
I'll stay out of your threads.
dplunkett187
Member
I strongly believe any outside entity reading this and taking it seriously has issues to deal with on a level of severity far above the idle fiction based discussion that has arisen in this thread.
Offering opinions of how one might react in the event of a zombie attack is simply no more than a humourous escape from reality among hobbyists/collectors. It's a good laugh. That's all, folks.
I understand the fear that a thread such as this could give ammunition to the anti-gun crowd but as stated above, I pity those that take it seriously. Furthermore, musn't we all agree that the oppposition is already victorious when we feel we must screen what we discuss in fear of redicule?
I, for one find that far more frightening than the thought of an army of the undead
Offering opinions of how one might react in the event of a zombie attack is simply no more than a humourous escape from reality among hobbyists/collectors. It's a good laugh. That's all, folks.
I understand the fear that a thread such as this could give ammunition to the anti-gun crowd but as stated above, I pity those that take it seriously. Furthermore, musn't we all agree that the oppposition is already victorious when we feel we must screen what we discuss in fear of redicule?
I, for one find that far more frightening than the thought of an army of the undead
sigp220.45
US Veteran
I'm an old fart and I love zombie threads. I've read both of Brooks' books, and enjoyed them immensely. I think he should have contacted Gator Farmer before he wrote his gun chapter, though.
GF is, of course, right about the M4 as the premier zombie gun. Zombies mean headshots, which means accuracy, and Brooks' choice of the AK over the M4 is off-base. I do like his preference for the M1 carbine, though. My M1 is my "post-retirement" zombie gun.
Until then, though, my choice is old faithful, the MP5 in 10mm.
It's light, holds a pile of ammo, headshots are easy out to fifty yards and doable way past that, its relatively quiet, and its completely reliable.
GF is, of course, right about the M4 as the premier zombie gun. Zombies mean headshots, which means accuracy, and Brooks' choice of the AK over the M4 is off-base. I do like his preference for the M1 carbine, though. My M1 is my "post-retirement" zombie gun.
Until then, though, my choice is old faithful, the MP5 in 10mm.
It's light, holds a pile of ammo, headshots are easy out to fifty yards and doable way past that, its relatively quiet, and its completely reliable.
michaelknifenut
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GatorFarmer
Member
I straddle the metaphor/fiction line. As the saying goes "If you're ready for the zombies, you're ready for anything" (to paraquote someone or another who said that at some point).
http://www.talesofworldwarz.com/stories/?p=96#more-96 :“The day the world ended,
all I had to count on was my trusty Smith & Wesson.”
And of course, there's the greatest of all the zombie books, in my naturally completely unbiased and disinterested opinion (not like I make a royalty or anything...)
http://www.lulu.com/content/1344064
http://www.talesofworldwarz.com/stories/?p=96#more-96 :“The day the world ended,
all I had to count on was my trusty Smith & Wesson.”
And of course, there's the greatest of all the zombie books, in my naturally completely unbiased and disinterested opinion (not like I make a royalty or anything...)
http://www.lulu.com/content/1344064
Wheelgunner840
Member
We have always gotten along Mickey D. My post was not meant to be a put down to you or the other people I hold in high regard here (WF Rozes, Dixie and Aussie44) We just have a different opinion on the subject at hand.
If it's zombie threads that you don't care to join in on, that's all well and good, but I would never want you to "stay out of my threads". Most of my posts have absolutely nothing to do with this subject.
WG840
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