DFrame
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No doubt others will disagree but I think the model 19 is S&Ws finest revolver. It's a nearly perfect balance of size and weight for 357. You did well on the price, congratulations.
did I get rip off?
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did I get rip off"?
I can't help but wonder why someone would buy something if they did not believe it was a fair price?
Even if you did get "rip off" it's a little late to much about it now.
If it will make you feel better, as everyone else has suggested, it appears as if you got a good deal, on one of the best all around revolvers Smith and Wesson ever produced.
I can't help but wonder why someone would buy something if they did not believe it was a fair price?
Even if you did get "rip off" it's a little late to much about it now.
If it will make you feel better, as everyone else has suggested, it appears as if you got a good deal, on one of the best all around revolvers Smith and Wesson ever produced.
WARNING: Low and slow on the cleaning!! It appears to be an excellent item that needs TLC as stated above. Clean cylinders, barrel correctly- NO stainless brushes, Take your time and do it correctly and the gun will provide you and your heirs lifetimes of shooting pleasure.
Safety- + 1 on DougM 's post, rules to LIVE by. Cleaning kit, lube, etc, there is a great deal of info and very knowledgeable shooters that are willing to help. Do search on the forum first, learn the terms for the revolver ( if you ask what is this sort of angled piece? it is hard to help someone if you do not know what they are asking. Read the manual!!!
They are available on line at Smith & Wesson.
Welcome to the forum!! Your state, factory or reloads on the ammo, type of holster. Photos, photos or it did not happen. Enjoy, Be Safe,
Safety- + 1 on DougM 's post, rules to LIVE by. Cleaning kit, lube, etc, there is a great deal of info and very knowledgeable shooters that are willing to help. Do search on the forum first, learn the terms for the revolver ( if you ask what is this sort of angled piece? it is hard to help someone if you do not know what they are asking. Read the manual!!!
They are available on line at Smith & Wesson.
Welcome to the forum!! Your state, factory or reloads on the ammo, type of holster. Photos, photos or it did not happen. Enjoy, Be Safe,
djh1765
Member
Savage559,
Take a look at this. This will tell you that you did well.
S&W 19-5 For Sale ? Buy S&W 19-5 Online at GunBroker.com
Especially with the extras.
djh
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bananaman
Member
Regardless, if the gun is mechanically, and cosmetically sound, you made a good decision & deal. Can't go wrong with a good 19. Bob
I was thinking about refinishing the grips but I'm not really good at this kind of stuff always ending up messing things up lol. Would one of these fit the gun? Altamont Company - Smith & Wesson or Hogue Rubber Grip S&W K or L Square Butt Rubber Monogrip:Amazon:Sports & Outdoors@@AMEPARAM@@http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31Pg1uvCvmL.@@AMEPARAM@@31Pg1uvCvmL
DO NOT USE STEEL WOOL!
DO NOT USE STEEL WOOL! - It can/will scratch the blued finish.
Bronze wool is a softer metal - but may not be locally available.
I use Chore-Boy ALL COPPER cleaning pads from the kitchen supplies aisle of the grocery store. Last time two in a box were less than ONE DOLLAR and NO SHIPPING. Copper is softer than the steel an does NOT scratch the blued finish.
Agree with letting light oil soak into the rust.
Bekeart
DO NOT USE STEEL WOOL! - It can/will scratch the blued finish.
Bronze wool is a softer metal - but may not be locally available.
I use Chore-Boy ALL COPPER cleaning pads from the kitchen supplies aisle of the grocery store. Last time two in a box were less than ONE DOLLAR and NO SHIPPING. Copper is softer than the steel an does NOT scratch the blued finish.
Agree with letting light oil soak into the rust.
Bekeart
Here is a link to the S&W site for you to download the Revolver Owner's Manual:
Smith and Wesson Safety and Instruction Manual - Revolvers.
Smith and Wesson Safety and Instruction Manual - Revolvers.
You would be better served to use a traditional gun oil...penetrating oil is likely too thin and won't adhere to the surface as well.
I would invest in set of rubber Pachmyers or Hogue grips to install and learn to use the gun. They are very inexpensive and easy to handle. Then as you learn the gun, you can decide to refinish the Stocks (grips) you have or buy a correct set for a K frame ... more $ than the rubber...The model 19 is a K frame ..S&Ws are sized from smallest to largest m,i,j,K,N,X. Any S&W enthusiast will know what you mean when you ask for a set of K frame stocks/grips. The ones on your gun are K frame target stocks. The guns has a Square Butt... also good to know when looking to buy or sell socks. RB= round butt, SB = Square butt. The opposite to a target stock/grip is called a magna. Look them up and learn.
Edit: The more I look at your stocks they are actually fine to shoot with. You don't need a set of rubber Pachs or Hogues. But you still may want to try a pair. I agree with others if you are a 1st time shooter to start with .38 spl ammo then try the .357 mag. The recoil will be much less and shot placement better. But then it's your model 19... go have some fun.
I really do urge you to download the manual or find one if it didn't come with one. Enjoy. And you got a very good deal!
Edit: The more I look at your stocks they are actually fine to shoot with. You don't need a set of rubber Pachs or Hogues. But you still may want to try a pair. I agree with others if you are a 1st time shooter to start with .38 spl ammo then try the .357 mag. The recoil will be much less and shot placement better. But then it's your model 19... go have some fun.
I really do urge you to download the manual or find one if it didn't come with one. Enjoy. And you got a very good deal!
When you go to buy bronze wool, take a small magnet with you. I have seen pot scrubbing cleaning pads that are copper plated steel wool.
Doug M.
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Do some research here about cleaning off rust before you get too excited. You can mess up the finish if you are too aggressive.
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As a shooter, that revolver needs nothing more than some Hoppes, a nylon brush and a scrub over. A light application of Break Free CLP, and you are good to go (assuming the revolver is otherwise mechanically sound).
DO NOT use steel, bronze or any other kind of "wool," whether you find it in hardware or the kitchen aisle. You are cleaning a nice revolver, not a cheap pot or pan. Stay with gun cleaning products. Leave the gun original, and you will, at that price, always get your money out of it, as long as you do not do anything to screw it up.
DO NOT use steel, bronze or any other kind of "wool," whether you find it in hardware or the kitchen aisle. You are cleaning a nice revolver, not a cheap pot or pan. Stay with gun cleaning products. Leave the gun original, and you will, at that price, always get your money out of it, as long as you do not do anything to screw it up.
Holy Hell, the horrible grammar and horrendous butchering of the English language around here makes me feel like my head is going to explode.
Didn't anyone here actually graduate high school?
That is a nice M19.
I'd wipe it down with a clean rag soaked with gun oil.
An oil-soaked shop rag will often remove light rust without harming the bluing.
Didn't anyone here actually graduate high school?
That is a nice M19.
I'd wipe it down with a clean rag soaked with gun oil.
An oil-soaked shop rag will often remove light rust without harming the bluing.
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I'm stunned by the grammar and spelling used on most forums.At times,I think everyone must be a new immigrant...but I know that's not the case-quite the contrary. Please wash your hands ,everyone,after handling ammo.
Well, his moniker IS savage.
Texas Star
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Like you, I think this OP may be new here or in another country. We have German and Czech members who use English better than this. But the overall spelling and grammar here and on other boards boggles the mind. I saw one post yesterday that was an immense run-on sentence without any punctuation at all.
Can you imagine what a student assigned a paper on gun control will think if he or she visits gun sites?!
One reason why the media and others who think they're polished intellectuals hate guns is that they assume that gun owners are just untutored rednecks. It's a cultural issue as much as anything else. And many who post here play right into that image!
raylan007
Member
Grips for M19
Try Altamont Co., They mfg reproductions and their grips are quite nice and affordable.
English isn't my first language. Sorry it bothered you so much? Didn't know they graded spelling on this forum.
Doug M.
Member
I'm the kind of nit picky grammar Nazi who has sent back probation violation reports covered in red pen. That said, such is not or should not be the standard here, for lots of reasons. Let's drop the thread drift, lay off our new member and not turn him off the place, and try to be a bit more educational about enjoying his new purchase.
Considering some of the garbage I have seen filed in court by attorneys who are allegedly fluent native speakers of English, the performance I have seen from our members from elsewhere is usually pretty good.
Considering some of the garbage I have seen filed in court by attorneys who are allegedly fluent native speakers of English, the performance I have seen from our members from elsewhere is usually pretty good.
Penetrating oil is a thin oil specifically formulated to penetrate inside the Tiniest cracks or openings and seep into all area's. It is great for rust, as it will penetrate the rust and get under it and help remove the rust. Kroil (usually available from machinist/tool supplier locations), is one of the best. WD40 is not a lubricant, and if used in any revolver works will gum up the action and actually cause excessive wear by attracting dirt.
Tom_R
Member
Savage,
Your $425 is well spent. You have a Smith and Wesson model 19. Probably a 19-5 to be specific based on the date given when someone researched your serial number. This model is one of the best, and most successful guns Smith and Wesson has ever made.
The model 19 is built on Smith and Wessons K-frame. The k-Frame has been in existence for over 100 years and was mainly used to chamber .38 Smith&Wesson, and then .38 special.
In the mid 1950s a well respected gun expert and border patrol agent named Bill Jordan convinced Smith and Wesson to build a .357 magnum in the K-frame. He felt it would be the ideal combination of size and firepower for Police forces. More on .357 loads for this gun a bit later on.
You have been given a lot of advice in this thread, most of it good, but a lot of it contradictory.
If you will indulge me, let me offer what I would do and the order I would do it in.
Get a set of replacement stocks. We refer to Smith and Wesson grips as stocks. It's an old term, when they made revolver grips out of wood, like the real nice stocks for rifles. So if you are going to have a Smith and Wesson in your collection, we need to welcome you to our fraternity, and teach you the lingo. Because you have a 6" barrel, your model 19 has what is referred to as a "square butt" grip frame. So if you get new stocks, you will want to make sure you get K frame Square Butt stocks. Do not get Round to Square conversion stocks. They won't fit your gun.
By the way, if you want the stocks restored, there is a member on the boards that does amazing work fixing these stocks. Yours will clean up very nicely. I will get you that information, and add it to this thread.
Ok so once you have some new stocks, give the revolver a good cleaning and some light lubrication. Clean the barrel and all 6 charging holes on the cylinder. Use a good cleaning kit with brass brushes, good cleaner like Hoppes, and run plenty of patches through the barrel and charging holes.
Get a box of .38 special ammunition, and a box of 158 grain .357 magnum ammunition. You DO NOT want to shoot light .357s in this gun. 125 grain .357s are a great round and common. Chevy will wear this gun out. In general, don't shot a lot of .357s in this gun, but really stay away from 125 grain loads as they have been known to crack forcing cones.
So shot it, and get a feel for it. The trigger should be smooth in single action and double action.
See how you like it.
Then if you decide it needs to be cleaned up, I would oil and wipe it repeatedly and see how much of the freckling you can get off of it.
But you will love the gun.
By the way, on YouTube, there is a great gun channel called hickock45, he has some videos on the model 19.
Check these out:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mLhiDlcktdY
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=K0oFg3O-DL4
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FBPu2qbhiBA
And here is one about the model 19s Stainless Brother, the Model 66
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S-UF6CpThdk
Hickock shows what they can do, and gives a nice history lesson.
Welcome to the Smith and Wesson brotherhood, they get in your blood.
Your $425 is well spent. You have a Smith and Wesson model 19. Probably a 19-5 to be specific based on the date given when someone researched your serial number. This model is one of the best, and most successful guns Smith and Wesson has ever made.
The model 19 is built on Smith and Wessons K-frame. The k-Frame has been in existence for over 100 years and was mainly used to chamber .38 Smith&Wesson, and then .38 special.
In the mid 1950s a well respected gun expert and border patrol agent named Bill Jordan convinced Smith and Wesson to build a .357 magnum in the K-frame. He felt it would be the ideal combination of size and firepower for Police forces. More on .357 loads for this gun a bit later on.
You have been given a lot of advice in this thread, most of it good, but a lot of it contradictory.
If you will indulge me, let me offer what I would do and the order I would do it in.
Get a set of replacement stocks. We refer to Smith and Wesson grips as stocks. It's an old term, when they made revolver grips out of wood, like the real nice stocks for rifles. So if you are going to have a Smith and Wesson in your collection, we need to welcome you to our fraternity, and teach you the lingo. Because you have a 6" barrel, your model 19 has what is referred to as a "square butt" grip frame. So if you get new stocks, you will want to make sure you get K frame Square Butt stocks. Do not get Round to Square conversion stocks. They won't fit your gun.
By the way, if you want the stocks restored, there is a member on the boards that does amazing work fixing these stocks. Yours will clean up very nicely. I will get you that information, and add it to this thread.
Ok so once you have some new stocks, give the revolver a good cleaning and some light lubrication. Clean the barrel and all 6 charging holes on the cylinder. Use a good cleaning kit with brass brushes, good cleaner like Hoppes, and run plenty of patches through the barrel and charging holes.
Get a box of .38 special ammunition, and a box of 158 grain .357 magnum ammunition. You DO NOT want to shoot light .357s in this gun. 125 grain .357s are a great round and common. Chevy will wear this gun out. In general, don't shot a lot of .357s in this gun, but really stay away from 125 grain loads as they have been known to crack forcing cones.
So shot it, and get a feel for it. The trigger should be smooth in single action and double action.
See how you like it.
Then if you decide it needs to be cleaned up, I would oil and wipe it repeatedly and see how much of the freckling you can get off of it.
But you will love the gun.
By the way, on YouTube, there is a great gun channel called hickock45, he has some videos on the model 19.
Check these out:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mLhiDlcktdY
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=K0oFg3O-DL4
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FBPu2qbhiBA
And here is one about the model 19s Stainless Brother, the Model 66
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S-UF6CpThdk
Hickock shows what they can do, and gives a nice history lesson.
Welcome to the Smith and Wesson brotherhood, they get in your blood.
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Ok I polished the gun with scratch x 2.0. Used clp on the gun so everythings smooth and I try to refinish the grip with teak oil . All and all I spent 440 on the gun. Here's updated pics still waiting on everything to cure what you guys think?
