Did NOT Expect Tokarevs!

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As a foreigner working in the Horn of Africa, you must have a Protective Service Detail if you want go out of very limited secure areas. Many of the best PSD operators are South African; many of them carry this M57 Tokarev:

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They fire this 7.62x25 round:

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These pistols are highly prized for functional reliability and unparalleled penetration through barriers.

Sure never expected to see these on critical duty service in 2024!
 
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My son has a M 57 I've been trying to talk him out of for years. It's a super cool gun! He refuses to consider it as anything but a range toy, despite it showing good handling, power and reliability. Me? I'd feel pretty safe with that gun and a couple spare mags loaded with hollowpoints.

Neat show and tell!
 
It is indeed possible to convert a M1911 to Tokarev. Long ago Colt made a amall number of Tok M1911s as a test. I also remember a kit made by someone to convert .38 Super Colts to use 7.62 Tok. One problem was that the Tok's cartridge's OAL was slightly too long to work through a .38 Super magazine. That could be addressed by seating the Tok bullet a little more deeply. That is the sort of gun stuff I love, but I have never tried that particular conversion. I would also like to get a 9mm barrel chambered for the 7.63 Luger cartridge for any of several 9mm guns I own. No particular reason other than I like the idea of pistols capable of swapping calibers easily.
 
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Given the history of both South Africa and the former Yugoslavia, I'm not exactly shocked. South African industry has had mixed results when trying to build safe, reliable firearms, and the former Yugoslavia has and will sell to pretty much anyone.
 
I have a Romanian Tokarev TT-33C, but it's in rough shape and I've never fired it...

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I would have liked it much better had it arrived in the condition I otdered it in.
 
It sounds as though the protective detail might have real world experience to justify using the 7.62 X 25 mm round.

I shot a few through a CZ52 a few years ago, it definitely is loud and draws a lot of attention.
 
Given the history of both South Africa and the former Yugoslavia, I'm not exactly shocked. South African industry has had mixed results when trying to build safe, reliable firearms, and the former Yugoslavia has and will sell to pretty much anyone.

The RSA under the Apartheid Era was very successful in building firearms. As a western aligned capitalist nation, they never purchased arms from Communist Yugoslavia. In fact, the RSA fought Communists in Southwest Africa, Angola, and Mozambique. They even fought Communist Cuba in Angola.

Due to the embargo placed on them for supporting Apartheid, they developed a native production industry of gun government owned gun companies. They built an excellent metric FAL known as the R1, had their domestic commercial production guns under the Musgrave line which included a clone of a Beretta pump shotgun and a successful series of hunting rifles.

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Later, they established their own Galil line along with producing the excellent clone of the Beretta 92FS that they reverse engineered. It was so good, Beretta instead of suing them, licensed them to produce it under royalty. The Vektor Z88 is an excellent pistol.

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For foreign contracts, the RSA used Israeli, German, and Spanish arms, not Yugoslavian guns. Spain and Israeli, being western aligned anti-communist pariah states themselves. They have close relations with the RSA. West Germany, also supported the RSA due to former German settlers living in Southwest Africa, which at the time was part of the RSA.

The Star Bonifacio Echeverria Model BM from Spain was issued by the SADF during the Border War and it smoke checked a number of SWAPO and Cubans in Angola.

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The SAP issued the Walther P1 (post-war aluminum frame P38) as their standard issue duty gun and used them to great effect against uMkhonto we Sizwe.

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They also domestically produced the Milkor BXP SMG and Milkor MGL.

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I can see the current production Serbian M57 Tok as a popular pistol in the rest of Africa because they're cheap and 7.62x25mm Tok being common in those areas due to those countries formerly being supplied by the Communist Bloc.

The Horn of Africa had the Derg in Ethiopia and the Jamhuuriyadda in Somalia. Both were Communist Bloc client states. Plus you had Libya supplying arms too and they were a Soviet client state.
 
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I have two Tokarevs; a Polish TTC and a Romanian TT-33. Both are good shooters. I also have a CZ-52 in 7.62x25 that is a classic Cold War pistol.
 
I have a Chinese Tokarev and a CZ-52, both in 7.62X25. Haven't fired either one in years. I need to get them out because I have a decent stash of ammo. The 7.62X25 round is pretty hot. I have chronographed a few rounds at over 1,500 FPS.
 
Biggest objection I have to the Tokarev is the awkward grip angle. IIRC it is meant to be fired European style, with the elbow bent rather than our straight arm style.
 
I really like the Yugo M57/M70 series. The grip is longer that the other Toks, and more comfortable to shoot.

I have one of the M57s with the thumb safety and another later import with the Glock-like trigger safety. The Glockish trigger can be subbed out for an original and put back into the slick no-safety goodness as designed.
Depending on the year of manufacture, M57s have grip marking variations and the the number of torches on coat of arms stamped on the top of the slide.

The M70 is the 9mm version. Those are good shooters, too!

There's also the M88 and M88A1i. They're subcompact versions of the M70. I should've picked up one when they were cheap and mags easy to find.
 
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I really like the Yugo M57/M70 series. ...

The M70 is the 9mm version. Those are good shooters, too!

There's also the M88 and M88A1i. They're subcompact versions of the M70. I should've picked up one when they were cheap and mags easy to find.

Just to mess with our heads, or maybe BATFE, there is also a Zastava M70 in 7.65x17 (32 ACP) and a M70 AK clone.
 
At some time or other, I have owned, or at least fired, a great many different and oddball semi-autos of earlier decades.The Tokarev was never one of them. I don't remember even holding one in my hand. Maybe I missed something.
 

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