Digital lock safe & EMP

[gman51]

When I bought my safe I was told that a person in the know can open my safe in less than 30 minutes. Mine had an electronic lock which I changed out to dial when the electric lock failed to open the safe a few times.
If you want into your safe, depending how much replacement would be, then take either a torch and cut the side off the safe or use a grinder to do the same thing.
I don't know about the EMP scare because I have heard both sides that it is and it isn't as big a deal as some think.
I will never buy any safe that has an electronic lock. It cost me $375 to get the combination lock installed. I found out there was a loose wire causing the occasional failure of the electronic lock.

 

[GKC]

I recently read that there is no such thing as a safe that cannot be breached, if the attacker has sufficient time and tools. The primary function of a safe is delay...the stronger the safe, the longer the delay, and that will thwart most attacks. If the attacker is determined, skilled, and has time, he could breach the safe, or just tear the safe out of the house, even if it is bolted down. Most attackers won't take the time, and unless the house is very isolated, the process of tearing a safe out of a house would attract unwanted attention. Most safes will stop a smash and grab type thief, who is the least likely type to have the skills to do a sophisticated safe crack.

 

[roundgunner]

NK is in on this game too.

Experts: A Single Nuclear Warhead Delivered By North Korean Satellite Could Blackout National Electric Grid And Kill 90% Of Americans

 

[Rastoff]

I recently read that there is no such thing as a safe that cannot be breached, if the attacker has sufficient time and tools.

Yep, time, tools, talent and material is all it takes to accomplish anything. There is no safe that can't be cracked there is no car that can't be stolen. It just depends on how badly you want it.

Delay is indeed the goal. Time is the critical aspect of any smash and grab. Most criminals aren't smart enough to plan. If they can't get it in 2 minutes or less, they'll look elsewhere. A real thief that puts some effort into planning, can get past any lock. The question is, do you have stuff that will make it worth a real thief's time to attack you? Most of us don't. Just about any RSC, properly installed, will defeat the average smash and grab guy.

roundgunner,
Before I comment on your link...if the polar caps melt, how high will the seas rise?

 

[roundgunner]

roundgunner,
Before I comment on your link...if the polar caps melt, how high will the seas rise?[/QUOTE]


I live at 258 feet above sea level so it is going to take a bit before I need a boat. losing power for a year with no notice is another thing.

 

[Rastoff]

I live at 258 feet above sea level so it is going to take a bit before I need a boat.

I figured you'd say something like that.

A year huh? If 90% of the people die, who's going to get the power going again? If the EMP smokes everything like you've been telling us, doesn't that mean we'll be without power forever?

 

[ChattanoogaPhil]

EMP? I don't see any reason to scoff at the notion. But other than shielding a short wave radio and access to the gun safe as OP mentions I don't see it as a lot different than any other possible disasters that could interrupt social order and food supply for a prolonged time. Generally, I think folks would do well to consider preparing more than yesterday's cold pizza leftovers in the fridge, whether it be an EMP or whatever else. If the EMP blast is survivable I believe the wife and I and other like-mined neighbors would do better than most which may be enough. Probably the most immediate difficulty with an EMP is being at work 25 miles away from home, kids in school... with no transportation. There's not much of a solution for that.

 

[Muss Muggins]

Does anyone know if there is a way to open a digital lock safe if the lock gets fried like a EMP would do. I'm not really paranoid but EMP is one of the reasons I bought guns in the first place.

Pretty sure they all come with a key. I could be wrong, but then again, I wouldn't buy a solely electronic safe in the first place . . .

 

[Kanewpadle]

Pretty sure they all come with a key. I could be wrong, but then again, I wouldn't buy a solely electronic safe in the first place . . .

Mots American made safe do not have a key override. Many of the safes made overseas do. I think they know their electronics are substandard.

I will always have a mechanical lock on my safes.

 

[bgrone]

I'm not going to speculate on the probability of an EMP, but my new phone has an app that can detect electro-magnetic fields for what ever that is worth. Lol

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[ChattanoogaPhil]

I live at 258 feet above sea level so it is going to take a bit before I need a boat. losing power for a year with no notice is another thing.

My doorstep is 968ft. You'll be be fish poop long before the tide reaches me. On the other hand... I'll be 700ft closer to a high altitude EMP...

 

[jsfricks]

Direct from a lock maker

Sargent and Greenleaf :: EMP

A longtime locksmith on our local forum said he's never had to break in to a S&G electronic safe but has had to break into a lot of the cheaper electronic safes. And anything with a backup key is just an easier way to get in for the thief according to him. My Liberty has the S&G EMP Proof lock. They've been tested with Military grade EMP. Will it hold up under real world conditions, who knows. But I dont keep all of my guns in my main safe because I want quick access to them, just mainly my collectible guns. So several handguns are stashed around my house for my easy access. My everyday carry is never too far from me. And I don't keep all my ammo in the main safe either. So if something does happen I have what I need for awhile.