Disappointed with new M&P 9

KAC said:
A couple of points. 1. The slide stop is ambi on the M&P so that left handers can engage it easily. 2. Glock from day one has trained that their slide stop/catch is to be used as that only, not as a release. You will never hear them refer to it otherwise.
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I don't know if I speak for all southpaws or not, but after about 35 years of engaging the slide stop with the tip of my left index finger,and never using it to move the slide forward, I'm pretty sure that I would ignore that device if it was suddenly on the right side of the pistol. As for Glock, you are 100% correct. When the FBI went to Glock, they (the FBI) insisted that the slide stop lever be easier to manipulate, hence the availability of the "extended slide stop lever." My understanding is that the addition was much protested and debated at Glock, Inc., and was almost a dealbreaker on Glock's part. I kinda like 'em myself, and have them on all five of my Glock pistols.
 
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I just tried it on my 3 semi auto's, a Beretta 92FS, a Ruger SR9, and a Ruger LC9-S. SR9 and beretta I can drop the slide lock to chamber a round. On my LC9-S, I can't budge it at all. No big deal since I don't use it to chamber a round.
 
kbm6893 said:
It's on both sides? Didn't know that. None of my semi suto's have dual slide locks. I still wouldn't use it to drop the slide
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Yes, the slide is on both sides of the frame on M&Ps.
 
kbm6893 said:
I just tried it on my 3 semi auto's, a Beretta 92FS, a Ruger SR9, and a Ruger LC9-S. SR9 and beretta I can drop the slide lock to chamber a round. On my LC9-S, I can't budge it at all. No big deal since I don't use it to chamber a round.
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Another reason that my H&K P7 is probably my favorite pistol, bar none. The slide stop is a button at the rear of the frame that you press in while holding the slide back. There is no way to manually release the slide stop except to manipulate the slide.
 
hardluk1 said:
cavscout Act like a big boy and operate the handgun as you were taught in the army ,as you are taught to rack the slide to chamber a round or to clear a jamb . OR Contact s&w about the tough function of the slide lock and let them tune it with out all the whininess .

You were given some advise how you could maybe fix the issue BUT common sense could have done the same .

So your options are , Get your m&p fixed as You should know that all maker have a few problems . You can try to common sense the fix your self but that looks to be out of the question or sell it and buy some other brand and hope its problem free or you will start off with something sounding the same as you post here .

Good luck in the future .
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What advice was I given??? Other than its not supposed to release thr slide even though a majority of them do. And just because I wasnt pleased with something doesnt mean your whinning.
 
MichiganScott said:
The problem is that the OP asked a question and did not like the answers he received. It's human nature to need validation of our preconceived views and ideas for our self-esteem. He did not get that validation and insists that he is right, Smith & Wesson engineers are clueless as to how a pistol should be handled in the "real world", and anyone that disagrees with him needs lessons from his instructors that never would have recommended the M&P if it did not have a slide release. Apparently his instructors never read the owner's manual either.

If this was not enough, the OP then insults the M&P by declaring it must have been designed as it was simply to make other polymer guns look good (jabroni), and declares that he will gladly take his money back. This is, afterall, a Smith and Wesson forum and it should not be surprising that most of us are very happy with them.[/QUOTE,]

All i got was smart remarks and its not to function that way but a majority of them do. What sense does that make. Obviously theres an issue
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Why come here and complain BEFORE contacting S&W? :rolleyes:

If you need help, they are the first place to go. If you need your thinking validated or to be consoled, you're in the wrong place.

As evidenced in previous posts, we all think different. Doesn't mean you're right and we're wrong or vice versa.

Your problem is not at all unusual. The slide should be released by pulling it to the rear. Under stress, you will miss the slide lock. And if you have to clear a malfunction, using the slide release is not part of the process.

Shoot the gun.
 
While it can be used as a slide release, it is not its intended purpose. I believe the reason the little finger pads exist on the slide lock are so the slide can be locked open when a magazine is not present.

Larry
 
Kanewpadle said:
Why come here and complain BEFORE contacting S&W? :rolleyes:

If you need help, they are the first place to go. If you need your thinking validated or to be consoled, you're in the wrong place.

As evidenced in previous posts, we all think different. Doesn't mean you're right and we're wrong or vice versa.

Your problem is not at all unusual. The slide should be released by pulling it to the rear. Under stress, you will miss the slide lock. And if you have to clear a malfunction, using the slide release is not part of the process.

Shoot the gun.
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Well S&W was closed.... It was Saturday. .... I planned on calling them Monday. Turns out its a common problem... Found a solution and helpful advice on another forum.

thought i might get helpful information here, i was wrong.

All i got from here is its a slide stop, its not supposed to release the slide even though a majority of M&P pistols do it without any issue. So if it releases the slide is not defective according to the manual and the minds here? Thats pretty much what everyone is saying here
 
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CavScout 00 said:
Well S&W was closed.... It was Saturday. .... I planned on calling them Monday. Turns out its a common problem... Found a solution and helpful advice on another forum.

thought i might get helpful information here, i was wrong.

All i got from here is its a slide stop, its not supposed to release the slide even though a majority of M&P pistols do it without any issue. So if it releases the slide is it not functioning properly? Thats pretty much what everyone is saying here
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You got plenty of helpful information here. What you didn't get was affirmation of your incorrect preformed uninformed opinion. If you didn't like what I offered, I don't apologize, and it doesn't make me unhappy. The information you received (I watched the video) was akin to cutting out the catalytic converter of your car so you could burn leaded gas. Like I said, send it back, modify it out of factory specs, or buy something else. It's not a "smart remark" to state a fact that you don't happen to agree with.
 
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CavScout 00 said:
Well S&W was closed.... It was Saturday. .... I planned on calling them Monday. Turns out its a common problem... Found a solution and helpful advice on another forum.

thought i might get helpful information here, i was wrong.

All i got from here is its a slide stop, its not supposed to release the slide even though a majority of M&P pistols do it without any issue. So if it releases the slide is it not functioning properly? Thats pretty much what everyone is saying here
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What, no patience? EVERY business deserves a chance at making things right before you run off and complain elsewhere.

You're making a big deal over nothing. Again, shoot the gun and see. If it doesn't get better, contact S&W.

I've owned 7 or 8 M&P's. Two had the same problem. They both got better after one or two hundred rounds. You can shoot that in one session and still retain possession of the gun instead of waiting weeks to get it back.
 
I have an M&P40 full size as well as an M&P40C. The slide stop is hard to push from an open slide, but they both got easier with lots of rounds down range. That being said I've only used the slide stop to close the slide several times. I grab the rear of the slide, pull it back a little & let go. I never let the slide fly forward without a full mag inserted. Not that I feel it hurts anything but I just don't do it. I've found that When reloading a full mag & just by slamming the mag in, the slide will close & chamber a round without doing anything else most of the time. I'm always prepared to pull the mag back & let it go, though, just in case.
 
CavScout 00 said:
FOUND A FIX...... http://youtu.be/QbeGB5BUelU

Someone sent me this video on another forum. I figured this is what needed to be done. Just wanted to make sure there wasn't anything else going on.
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Taking sandpaper to a part is not a fix in my opinion, but it's your gun so do with as you wish. The gun was not designed to allow the slide stop to function as a slide release. If that's such a deal breaker for you, you might have been better off with another gun. I know Glocks will allow you to do it, and my ruger SR9 does it easily, too. I gotta admit I love that SR9. Guns feels great in my hand and I am laser accurate with it.
 
I must be a ninny. Don't know if any of my 3 are tight because I never used them to release the slide.

Cavscout - give the guys a break. They were honestly just trying to help.
 
CavScout 00 said:
Well S&W was closed.... It was Saturday. .... I planned on calling them Monday. Turns out its a common problem... Found a solution and helpful advice on another forum.

thought i might get helpful information here, i was wrong.

All i got from here is its a slide stop, its not supposed to release the slide even though a majority of M&P pistols do it without any issue. So if it releases the slide is not defective according to the manual and the minds here? Thats pretty much what everyone is saying here
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I suggested in post #11 that you contact S&W on Monday and send it back in for repair if you felt it was defective. That was not the answer you wanted.

What I do not understand is why someone would take a file to a new gun to make it fit some preconceived idea on how it should work instead of how it was designed. I can understand how someone can mistake the slide stop on a 1911 for a slide release, but that tiny little lever on an M&P? If the pistol were to work as you desire, you will eventually miss that tiny lever during a reload under stress. I hope you choose to carry something else for self defense.
 
I just bought a Camaro SS, but I need to bring it into the dealer to fix it because it won't run a 10 second 1/4 mile. There must be something wrong with the car, because I've seen other similar looking Camaro's run a 10 second 1/4 mile. It's got a V-8. Can anyone suggest a fix for this. That's what this sounds like. GARY
 
Kanewpadle said:
What, no patience? EVERY business deserves a chance at making things right before you run off and complain elsewhere.

You're making a big deal over nothing. Again, shoot the gun and see. If it doesn't get better, contact S&W.

I've owned 7 or 8 M&P's. Two had the same problem. They both got better after one or two hundred rounds. You can shoot that in one session and still retain possession of the gun instead of waiting weeks to get it back.
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I wasnt complaining, i was looking to see if anyone else had issues and how they resolved them. Dont get over dramatic.

I didnt mean to affend anyone. If i thought i received a smart response I just simply gave one back.

More people wanted to debate onbthe terminology than anything. Turns out alot of M&Ps have the issue. And a lot more have a defective "slide stop" because you can release the slide by depressing it.
 
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