Disney World concealed carry

[bk43]

Please let me clarify some "Florida" things. Disney is anti-gun as is Universal. Sea World, on the other hand, is pro-gun and supports carry. In the summer, Sea World is a more comfortable park as it is more shaded and smaller so less walking. There is also thermal inertial from all the water tanks that cool at night and help keep the temps down the next day. However, Disney and Universal have things that your kids(and you) are going to want to see so "suck it up" as they say.

Anyone in Florida controls their property, be it business or private, and they call the shots as to your conduct including carry. You are free to carry in Florida but if a property owner doesn't want you to then you have to do your carrying elsewhere. No exceptions and they are just exercising their rights as property owners, not setting law.

You can have a gun in your car and leave it in your car even where a property owner does not allow carry. However, there are a few exceptions to this law and Disney and Universal fit two of them. Sea World does not and are proud to point that out. FWIW.

As to carry in the parks anyway some do and some don't...your choice. Whatever, please come down and bring money. Things are less crowded than they have been and you can get screaming deals on everything. And if you have kids, just what the hell kind of parent are you if your kids haven't seen the new Harry Potter attraction yet?

Bob

 

[mm6mm6]

We have been to Walt Disney World many times for our family summer vacations. We drive across 6 states to get there and we always stay on property. Their room safes accomodate up to a large firearm easily.

I have not felt the need to carry in the parks. I am a realist. I am well aware that "anything can happen anywhere" but as a realist, I believe that the chances of me needing my gun to protect myself in the Magic Kingdom are so slim as to not warrant the effort of carrying.

The safety systems on the rides, the sweat, the water rides, etc would make if more difficult to carry than in most other situations.

I commend Disney for bringing back the firearms to some of their attractions. Guns are used as Walt originally wanted on the Jungle Cruise.

Real Colt and S&W revolvers with blanks are used in The Great Movie Ride at Disney Hollywood Studios.

Good for Disney!

 

[hobby-gunsmith]

Let me clarify the "PARKING LOT LAW" in Florida. Florida Statue 790.251 passed in 2008 allegedly made it illegal for a business or employer to prohibit the use of parking areas to customers or employees who keep a lawful firearm and/or ammo in their locked vehicle, forbade retaliation against the employee or customer for doing so, forbade questioning of the employee or customer to determine if he or she had such a stored forearm, and forbade searches of vehicles to determine such. Unfortunatyely, the bill suffered from severe drafting problems and terrible shortsightedness. The statue only protects employees who have a concealed weapons permit, and correctly held that the provisions applying to customers and other invitees were unconstitutional because of substantial drafting issues in the legislation. Likewise, the statue granted several overbroad exceptions so that it doesn't apply to company vehicles, and property involving school grounds, correctional institutions, property used for national defense, aerospace , domestic security, manufacture/storage/or transport of compubsible or explosive materials, or any other property prohibited by state of federal law. This eliminated most theme parks that use fireworks, service stations, etc. Folks, should the legislature ever get around to re-writing it properly - it would easily pass constitutional muster as it did in another federal appeal. So, if you re staying at a hotel on the grounds, leave it in your car while visiting the parks.
Nick

 

[ladder13]

I'll be in the Disney area in late Sept, but won't be spending too much money in the parks, as our friends have us covered with free passes. We will visit this great wing joint in Davenport though, last time there I got sick from eating so many wings. Man they were gooood!
There's also a great breakfast place inside the town of Celebration, can't wait to get my hands on those waffles.
I hope the bugs calm down by the time we get there.
Me and bugs , we don't ........ahhh, nevermind.

Go UCF, black and gold!

 

[Strato]

I'll be in the Disney area in late Sept, but won't be spending too much money in the parks, as our friends have us covered with free passes. We will visit this great wing joint in Davenport though, last time there I got sick from eating so many wings. Man they were gooood!
There's also a great breakfast place inside the town of Celebration, can't wait to get my hands on those waffles.
I hope the bugs calm down by the time we get there.
Me and bugs , we don't ........ahhh, nevermind.

Go UCF, black and gold!

Would you be referring to The Market Street Cafe? I haven't eaten there but I do a lot of remodels and additions in Celebration and everyone talks about their breakfasts.

 

[ladder13]

I believe that's the place, it sort of has that retro look. Great eats, can't wait to get back there.

 

[Strato]

Sounds like the place. Lunch at the Celebration Town Tavern is pretty good too.

 

[FlYFiShErMaN]

WILCO Nick.......thanks for the legal input.

 

[MMA10mm]

The person who said, "if you're discreet, you can get away with a lot," said a whole lot in a very short sentence!

Second, I'm curious what the result of the LEO who dropped his NAA mini which went off was? Did he get banned? Charged with anything? The LEOSA passed in 2004 says a qualified LEO or retired LEO can carry anywhere in the US, regardless of state or local law, with a few exceptions. I wonder if the poorly-worded language in the Florida law fails to meet the standard required by LEOSA?

 

[ImprovedModel56Fan]

Please let me clarify some "Florida" things. Disney is anti-gun as is Universal. Sea World, on the other hand, is pro-gun and supports carry. In the summer, Sea World is a more comfortable park as it is more shaded and smaller so less walking. There is also thermal inertial from all the water tanks that cool at night and help keep the temps down the next day.

Organizations like Disney that are on the wrong side of numerous moral issues don't need my money...

A person can do many things if those things are done discreetly. And in this day and age, being discreet means not posting anything, anywhere, regarding them.

Collectively, the above gentlemen express both my views and my experience. Excellent advice, IMO.

 

[writerinmo]

I never felt the need nor desire to expose any of my kids to any of the mega-theme parks greed. Once they get to a certain size where you can't see all of it at a relaxed pace then I see little point in going, you will always miss something or else have to hurry through to see it all and lose out on a great deal of what the time there should mean. So far none of my kids seem to have suffered because they never went, and they are 26, 25 and 18 and still have no desire to go.

 

[Deltaboy]

We are looking at going but I will carry my cane and my large Sodbuster since the Cane is protected under ADA act and the Mouse doesn't want to dance with me in Federal Court.

 

[bk43]

No need to cop a 'tude Deltaboy. Disney, or any of the parks for that matter, will bend over backwards to accomodate a disability and make your stay as enjoyable as possible. If your handicap is not obvious, like say a respiratory disorder, you can go to Guest Relations and get a GAC(Guest Accomodation Card).

Regarding the knife, see post #10 above.

Bob

 

[The Big D]

We are looking at going but I will carry my cane and my large Sodbuster since the Cane is protected under ADA act and the Mouse doesn't want to dance with me in Federal Court.

Hmmmm, what is a "Sodbuster," please?

Thanks.

Be safe.

 

[The Highlander]

Sodbuster is a style (not brand) of knife.

As for Disney, I typically don't go where my gun isn't welcome. A couple of years ago when we were discussing taking the kids anyway, my daughter popped up and said "Daddy, I don't want to go there...they don't like guns, so I don't like them!"

Besides, I no longer like the heat, and I don't like the crowds, and I don't like the traffic.

 

[hobby-gunsmith]

The LEO was escorted out of the park. Disney did not file a complaint against him. As for the LEOSA, remember, you can carry any where in the U.S. as long as you are yearly qualified by an LE instructor and authorized by your retiremental department and carry your qualification card. You still fall under the catagory of a CWP citizen but without having to apply for a CWP. However, there are certain caveats that apply to that certification just as they are applied to a CWP holder. Disney is on private property and they have the right to post no guns allowed on their property. Since they store and use fireworks in the parks, you are under the Florida Statue as where you are not authorized to carry your gun. You don't need it in the parks. The Security is well trained and can handle the problem. It is not worth it and risk being escorted or permanently barred from the park. It will ruin your vacation not to mention the disgrace to your family. Yes, as some mention you can be descret and no one will be the wiser, but you may face the consequences of possible arrest and haveing to spend thousands of dollars in legal fees. Keep it locked in your trunk if you are at disney hotel while visiting the parks.l
Nick

 

[Colonel Dan]

I live 45 mins from Disney and go there frequently. I take my CCW but leave it in the car. If you're just visiting, I suggest you carry off Disney...around I-Drive and such. I've never seen a threatening situation in the parks...not to say it couldn't happen but if you feel the need, that's your call...

 

[gregintenn]

We went last fall. I took a revolver with me, but it stayed in the car or the room. I really didn't feel the need for a handgun there, and the thought of possibly firing one there seems more dangerous than not having one. If you do carry one there, I'd suggest a "mouse gun." I did have a pocket knife clipped to my pocket at all times, and no security guard evere noticed or at least never mentioned it.

 

[Skeeziks]

Boy...I sure hope they don't find this thread.

 

[David LaPell]

Well, way up here in NY I don't have plans for Disney anytime (or the money) in the future, and I am another not in favor of what they put out these days in the guise of entertainment. (By the time my son is old enough they will probably have the Miley Cyrus red light district) We do have parks up here and I plan on carrying concealed just like I always do. I used to work at a large park where attendance daily was 15,000 or better, nothing compared to Disney. I can tell you that no matter how great a security force is, there is always the chance of someone doing something. Its that chance that always had me concerned. I don't ever want to have to rely on someone else to protect me and mine. If there are no signs, then I carry those places.