Do you ever wonder if Gun Control Advocates lurk or even sign up on Gun Forums?

Free time, free money in the urban environment is progressive influence.
No one said 'free money' - I said 'easy money.' Our hard jobs are more frequently handled by illegals.

Urbanization happens because jobs and other opportunities exist in cities and not in rural areas as agriculture uses less and less labor, essentially since before WW I and accelerating.
 
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Same old..., you absolutely, positively cannot fix, regulate or legislate stupidity. When you try all you do is place the burden on those that are not stupid. As Cesare Beccaria wrote in "On Crimes and Punishments" (1764) - "False is the idea of utility that sacrifices a thousand real advantages for one imaginary or trifling inconvenience; that would take fire from men because it burns, and water because one may drown in it; that has no remedy for evils, except destruction. The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm those only who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Can it be supposed that those who have the courage to violate the most sacred laws of humanity, the most important of the code, will respect the less important and arbitrary ones, which can be violated with ease and impunity, and which, if strictly obeyed, would put an end to personal liberty and subject innocent persons to all the vexations that the guilty alone ought to suffer?" John Adams and Thomas Jefferson thought highly of his papers and writings.

Point being, be very careful what you wish for, you may very well get it, and more. You might not like the outcome...
Thank you for that quote! Perfect!
 
To paraphrase, we are not interested in banning ALL guns, just the ones we don’t like right now. The ones we DO like, we won’t like later. Especially if YOU have them. We REALLY don’t like the guns YOU have. But no, we’re not planning to ban ALL guns….

(I’ve noticed that we started with an individual carrying the firepower of an infantry platoon, and it’s grown to an infantry company. I wonder how those current Company Commanders feel about that. Pretty sure it’s tough for one guy to carry both the heavy machine guns AND the mortars, not to mention the individual load outs of those four Platoons…)
 
No one said 'free money' - I said 'easy money.' Our hard jobs are more frequently handled by illegals.
I'm always bemused when I'm told that the 50,000 (known) Illegal Aliens in New York City and similar numbers in other large Democrat run cities (as well as the smaller numbers in lesser sized Democrat cities like here in Missoula) are supposedly picking our lettuce in those cities. While in their spare time many openly protest, sometimes flying Mexican flags, while "living in the shadows".

I did a lot of contract safety work in the oil patch. Saw a LOT of crews working in batteries, gathering fields, drill rigs, pigging lines, decommissioning wells, etc. The oil patch could be used as the definition of hard jobs

If there was a single Illegal Alien working those hard jobs, busting their ass up on the monkeyboards, they were safe from detection because they looked as Caucasian and sounded just as home grown as I do.

I wonder why Illegal Aliens willing to do our hard jobs (that we apparently won't do) are living off government handed out benefits and entitlements (most of which it is illegal for them to obtain), when they could be making $80k - $150k taking those open jobs in the oil patch.
 
I'm always bemused when I'm told that the 50,000 (known) Illegal Aliens in New York City and similar numbers in other large Democrat run cities (as well as the smaller numbers in lesser sized Democrat cities like here in Missoula) are supposedly picking our lettuce in those cities. While in their spare time many openly protest, sometimes flying Mexican flags, while "living in the shadows".

I did a lot of contract safety work in the oil patch. Saw a LOT of crews working in batteries, gathering fields, drill rigs, pigging lines, decommissioning wells, etc. The oil patch could be used as the definition of hard jobs

If there was a single Illegal Alien working those hard jobs, busting their ass up on the monkeyboards, they were safe from detection because they looked as Caucasian and sounded just as home grown as I do.

I wonder why Illegal Aliens willing to do our hard jobs (that we apparently won't do) are living off government handed out benefits and entitlements (most of which it is illegal for them to obtain), when they could be making $80k - $150k taking those open jobs in the oil patch.
Damn!!! Jager1, I need a nap after reading all that. Shoulda brought my lunch too. I completely agree 100%

Rick
 
Yes, and I'm equally sure that they didn't anticipate an era of an Internet instead of a printing press and quill pens.

Or a Mainstream Media would use First Amendment rights to advance a political party's felonious "Trump-Russia Dossier" to first fix an election, and when that didn't work use it to attempt to take out that president. Pulitzer prizes awarded for that investigative journalism! The Founders would be so proud!

But THIS!!!! A SINGLE person with the entire firepower of an infantry company!

Anybody else here do any time in the infantry? Let's see: indirect fire weapons, anti-armour weapons, heavy machine guns, squad machine guns, grenade launchers, etc. ONE PERSON!!!!

Now that single madman must be the most impressive human alive to be able to hump all that weaponry to carry out his mass murder using the template supplied by the Mainstream Media!

This is typical of the hyperbole that has absolutely no context or nuance, that police state fascists use to justify their unending attempts to obtain MORE infringements on the Second Amendment. And revealing of the persons who attempt to use it.

The ones saying "we don't actually want to take your guns".

Same ones who claim to support the Second Amendment - but just finished voting for the DEI Hire Vice President, the presidential candidate who had repeatedly said she would take almost all guns if she could.

Nothing To See Here, Please Believe Us, Don't Believe Your Lying Eyes™
Once again with you 100%

Rick
 
^apparently MAGA is too silly to understand that landing 30 hits on a rank of men at a moderate range (say, 100 yards) with a musket would take around 120 men firing in a volley, whereas it would take one man to do the same in a roughly equivalent time with modern technology.

To the Founders, one modern rifleman would have the relative firepower of a company of musket-bearing infantry, the range of an average artillery piece, and would likely have speed far in excess of the finest cavalry if they had a car or motorized transport…even a bicycle would be faster than most. There’s a reason it took hundreds of men to land dozens of hits with their contemporary technology. One man executing a church or school full of people with a Brown Bess wasn’t really a concern, it would be functionally impossible to do so before they were stopped, and I guarantee none of them thought “what if someone buys a puckle gun to do a mass shooting” or even “what if they take their cannon to the meeting house?” The very concept never occurred to them.

Today, thought, any misanthropic person can go to an LGS, fill out a 4473 and walk out with a rifle capable of eliminating an entire column of infantry and enough ammunition to do it for a relatively modest sum. That was not the case in their day.
 
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BTW, Freud was the first I'm aware of who described how people channel their own offenses, shortcomings, and emotional and moral failings onto those they fear and hate the most.
The use of code words or outright lies, this that the other thing.

100% for many years I have said they call us what they are.
 
BTW, Freud was the first I'm aware of who described how people channel their own offenses, shortcomings, and emotional and moral failings onto those they fear and hate the most.
Exactly. Welcome to your mirror of self-realization.

I know you did not use the word troll in your diatribes. In the spirit of the original flavor of this thread, just saying you act like one... reverse trolling if you will?

I did call you a bigot. Notice you conveniently did not addressed that; just some more delusional maga talking points. But I understand... you can not, with any sense of respectabiity.

And yes I do like Rocket. My my... that does seem to bother you intensely. Wonder why?
 
The hilarious part of this is that there’s people so violently opposed to gun control in any form that they correlate it directly with their own personal life and freedom, while vehemently denouncing everyone else period and involuntarily demonstrating that perhaps not everyone should be armed.

If someone saying “yeah those should be less available” makes you type an hour-long frothing screed on a message board, imagine what a pride parade or an anti-gunner in the flesh must do?
 
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